Saturn's rings older than first thought?

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Saturn's rings older than first thought?

Updated Thu. Dec. 13 2007 8:21 AM ET
The Associated Press
LOS ANGELES -- Saturn's shimmering rings may be as old as the solar system, scientists said Wednesday, debunking earlier theories that the rings were formed during the dinosaur age.
Astronomers had thought Saturn's rings were cosmically young, likely born some 100 million years ago from leftovers of a meteoric collision with a moon, based on data by NASA's Voyager spacecraft in the 1970s.
However, new data from the orbiting international Cassini spacecraft suggest the rings existed as far back as 4.5 billion years ago, roughly the same time the sun and planets formed. The probe also found evidence that ring particles are constantly shattering and regrouping to form new rings.
"Recycling allows the rings to be as old as the solar system although continually changing," said Larry Esposito, a Cassini scientist from the University of Colorado.
The findings were presented at an American Geophysical Union meeting in San Francisco and will be published in the astronomical journal Icarus.
Saturn's trademark arcs have awed astronomers since Galileo's time. Scientists are interested in the rings because they are a model of the disk of gas and dust that initially enveloped the sun and studying them could yield clues about planet formation.
Saturn's ring system consists of seven major rings and thousands of ringlets, mostly made of orbiting ice mixed with dust and rock fragments.
The notion that Saturn's rings may be a permanent feature was based on observations by the ultraviolet spectrograph instrument on Cassini, which viewed the light reflected from the rings and watched stars passing behind them.
The Cassini mission, funded by NASA and the European and Italian space agencies, was launched in 1997 and reached Saturn in 2004. The mission is managed by NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory in Pasadena.
 

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Saturn's rings are beautiful. It wouldn't surprise me if they were as old as the planet itself, material that should have been part of the planet but was too far to crash into the planet and too close to form a moon. I only know the bare minimum when it comes to the planets though, we don't go into much detail about them until second year, sadly.
 

Dexter Sinister

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Interesting. I'm surprised the article didn't mention the Roche Limit. That's the closest distance a body held together only by its own gravity, like most objects in the solar system, can approach a larger body without being torn apart by tidal forces. Most ring systems--Jupiter has a faint one too, and one of either Uranus or Neptune, I don't recall which offhand, does as well--are inside the planet's Roche limit, though one of Saturn's rings, the so-called E ring, is outside it. If the moon approached the earth to within about 3 earth radii, it too would be torn up into a ring system. Sure would make the sky interesting. Won't happen though, the moon's over 30 earth radii away, and receding.
 

Kreskin

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It's receding? Wow, didn't know that. Eons from now what will eventually happen?
 

Dexter Sinister

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It's receding at only about 3.8 cm per year, so at that rate in another five billion years it'll be another 190,000 km farther out, only about 50% farther than it is now. I'd expect the rate to slow down though, it's all due to gravity, which weakens with distance. It'll stay in orbit around the earth for the life of the solar system. Tides will weaken, earth's rotation will slow down (currently loses a few seconds every 100,000 years) and solar eclipses won't be as interesting. It's just a fluke that right now it happens to be at the right distance to be about the same apparent diameter as the sun.

Unless some unknown large body passes through our neighbourhood and disrupts things, in which case all bets are off.