<50% of all Published Scientists Endorse Global Warming Theory

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Breaking: Less Than Half of all Published Scientists Endorse Global Warming Theory
August 29, 2007

Posted by Matthew_Dempsey@epw.senate.gov (4:45pm ET)

Last week in his blog post, New Peer-Reviewed Scientific Studies Chill Global Warming Fears, on the Inhofe EPW Press Blog, Marc Morano cited a July 2007 review of 539 abstracts in peer-reviewed scientific journals from 2004 through 2007 that found that climate science continues to shift toward the views of global warming skeptics.

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SURVEY: LESS THAN HALF OF ALL PUBLISHED SCIENTISTS ENDORSE GLOBAL WARMING THEORY; COMPREHENSIVE SURVEY OF PUBLISHED CLIMATE RESEARCH REVEALS CHANGING VIEWPOINTS

Michael Asher

August 29, 2007 11:07 AM
In 2004, history professor Naomi Oreskes performed a survey of research papers on climate change. Examining peer-reviewed papers published on the ISI Web of Science database from 1993 to 2003, she found a majority supported the "consensus view," defined as humans were having at least some effect on global climate change. Oreskes' work has been repeatedly cited, but as some of its data is now nearly 15 years old, its conclusions are becoming somewhat dated.

Medical researcher Dr. Klaus-Martin Schulte recently updated this research. Using the same database and search terms as Oreskes, he examined all papers published from 2004 to February 2007. The results have been submitted to the journal Energy and Environment, of which DailyTech has obtained a pre-publication copy. The figures are surprising.

Of 528 total papers on climate change, only 38 (7%) gave an explicit endorsement of the consensus. If one considers "implicit" endorsement (accepting the consensus without explicit statement), the figure rises to 45%. However, while only 32 papers (6%) reject the consensus outright, the largest category (48%) are neutral papers, refusing to either accept or reject the hypothesis. This is no "consensus."

The figures are even more shocking when one remembers the watered-down definition of consensus here. Not only does it not require supporting that man is the "primary" cause of warming, but it doesn't require any belief or support for "catastrophic" global warming. In fact of all papers published in this period (2004 to February 2007), only a single one makes any reference to climate change leading to catastrophic results.

These changing viewpoints represent the advances in climate science over the past decade. While today we are even more certain the earth is warming, we are less certain about the root causes. More importantly, research has shown us that -- whatever the cause may be -- the amount of warming is unlikely to cause any great calamity for mankind or the planet itself.

Schulte's survey contradicts the United Nation IPCC's Fourth Assessment Report (2007), which gave a figure of "90% likely" man was having an impact on world temperatures. But does the IPCC represent a consensus view of world scientists? Despite media claims of "thousands of scientists" involved in the report, the actual text is written by a much smaller number of "lead authors." The introductory "Summary for Policymakers" -- the only portion usually quoted in the media -- is written not by scientists at all, but by politicians, and approved, word-by-word, by political representatives from member nations. By IPCC policy, the individual report chapters -- the only text actually written by scientists -- are edited to "ensure compliance" with the summary, which is typically published months before the actual report itself.

By contrast, the ISI Web of Science database covers 8,700 journals and publications, including every leading scientific journal in the world.


http://epw.senate.gov/public/index.cfm?FuseAction=Minority.Blogs&ContentRecord_id=b35c36a3-802a-23ad-46ec-6880767e7966
 

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It seems to me that the >50% argument for global warming didn't mean anything. After all, in the 70's we thought the globe was cooling. So why would we care if some fringe study thinks there is <50% support for global warming. The hypocrisies are deafening on this issue specifically.

Notice that the article says that this new study by a medical student (not equivalent in anyway to a climatologist) used the exact same search terms as the Oreske's study. Why, when the science is advancing so quickly, would one use the same undisclosed search phrases.

Could the shift towards the 'skeptic' view be a result of actions like those from Philip Cooney?
 

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It seems to me that the >50% argument for global warming didn't mean anything. After all, in the 70's we thought the globe was cooling. So why would we care if some fringe study thinks there is <50% support for global warming. The hypocrisies are deafening on this issue specifically.

Notice that the article says that this new study by a medical student (not equivalent in anyway to a climatologist) used the exact same search terms as the Oreske's study. Why, when the science is advancing so quickly, would one use the same undisclosed search phrases.

Could the shift towards the 'skeptic' view be a result of actions like those from Philip Cooney?

Ya and it took a simple "blogger" to punch a great big hole in NASA's temperature data too Tonnington.

Face it...The house of cards is coming down around you guys nad you fail to see it.
 

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I would hope not, because then most of our modern science is wrong.

If putting a greenhouse gas in the air, doesn't increase temperatures, then many of our high tech heating and cooling systems must surely be running on pure liquid magic,

And who know's how long our magic reserves will last.


Why is this science verifiabley true until it results in someone having to change their own lazy behaviour? Then despite working examples in use, it is false.
 
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If putting a greenhouse gas in the air, doesn't increase temperatures, then many of our high tech heating and cooling systems must surely be running on pure liquid magic,

DAMN that is funny man, good one there!!

Sorry to interrupt, carry on!
 

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Mr. McIntyre sees the situation much differently than the bloggers, the knee-jerk reactions to anything percieved as higher ground is predictable, perhaps it ought to have a name. The McIntyre effect...

In a recent interview McIntyre said:
"The reaction in the right-wing blogosphere is overwrought ... I certainly haven't said that this is some kind of magic bullet that disproves global warming.

All he wanted was for NASA to be more transparent in the methods by which they make these calculations. He's an amateur, but has been following this issue for quite some time, and I'm guessing he has a pretty good idea of the science involved.

NASA does value this kind of effort, on more than one page they openly state that if there is something they missed, they welcome all pointers and suggestions. You can even download the GCM they contributed to the latest IPCC report.
 

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Maybe it's time to put away all the computer models and step back out into the real world.

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Good idea, go check out the local ponds, see all the frogs and stuff.

Jeeze I noticed the sun seems more intense these days, couldn't be because we're experiencing unprecidented solar activity, could it...

Before you all jump up my ass...That's not to say that GHG isn't playing a part in all this, but we can hardly examine one side without addressing the other with equal vigor. I'm still waiting to see that.

Mr. McIntyre sees the situation much differently than the bloggers, the knee-jerk reactions to anything percieved as higher ground is predictable, perhaps it ought to have a name. The McIntyre effect...

In a recent interview McIntyre said:


All he wanted was for NASA to be more transparent in the methods by which they make these calculations. He's an amateur, but has been following this issue for quite some time, and I'm guessing he has a pretty good idea of the science involved.

NASA does value this kind of effort, on more than one page they openly state that if there is something they missed, they welcome all pointers and suggestions. You can even download the GCM they contributed to the latest IPCC report.
And I applaud NASA for that...

So where has AlBore gone? Why hasn't he been out to address this issue...It was one of his well hilited points of fact, in his convenient lie...
 

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Honestly, there's little Gore could say right now that would help matters. Looking to these politicos and spin doctors all the time for our tag lines and favourite brand of truth is 3/4 of the problem.
 

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Honestly, there's little Gore could say right now that would help matters. Looking to these politicos and spin doctors all the time for our tag lines and favourite brand of truth is 3/4 of the problem.
I'll go further...99% of the problem.

Like I've said alll along...we need less BS and more constructive action.
 

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It's really funny that Al Gore makes a movie about climate change that just about anyone with a grade eight education could understand and the right wing nuts want to call it a fraud, or part of some evil conspiracy to put people out of work. The basic science Gore used was straight forward and reasonable. Anyone can disagree with the information, but they can't knock the science.
 

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It's really funny that Al Gore makes a movie about climate change that just about anyone with a grade eight education could understand and the right wing nuts want to call it a fraud, or part of some evil conspiracy to put people out of work. The basic science Gore used was straight forward and reasonable. Anyone can disagree with the information, but they can't knock the science.

Yes they can, and do:

Gore's credibility is damaged early in the film when he tells the audience that, by simply looking at Antarctic ice cores with the naked eye, one can see when the American Clean Air Act was passed. Dr. Ian Clark, professor of Earth Sciences at the University of Ottawa (U of O) responds, "This is pure fantasy unless the reporter is able to detect parts per billion changes to chemicals in ice." Air over the United States doesn't even circulate to the Antarctic before mixing with most of the northern, then the southern, hemisphere air, and this process takes decades. Clark explains that even far more significant events, such as the settling of dust arising from the scouring of continental shelves at the end of ice ages, are undetectable in ice cores by an untrained eye.

http://www.canada.com/nationalpost/financialpost/story.html?id=d0235a70-33f1-45b3-803b-829b1b3542ef

I wish the 'popular science' types would accept, with an open mind, the opposite of what this Enviro-Jim Jones is trying to sell them. And sell is the word. Chaching!
More:

http://www.junkscience.com/

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=debunking+al+gore&btnG=Google+Search
 

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The global warming cult would come to a screeching, ignoble end, if Bush would but say that he believes in it, and suggested that the U.S. sign the Kyoto accords or take some other action to stop global warming..before we all spontaneously burst into flames...

It would become an issue "non grata" overnight...
 

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Has anyone see this article:

Global warming hysteria

Global warming scientists fudge data

By Klaus Rohrich
Thursday, August 16, 2007
The Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC), the UN body pushing for laws that would limit man-made carbon emissions through a series of ultra-draconian regulations aimed primarily at developed nations, has a dirty little secret: its scientists have fudged their data to make the global warming picture look worse than it actually is.
That's what Douglas J. Keenan, an obvious global warming denier who bothered to check the documentation used by the IPCC's chief climatologist, Dr. P. D. Jones in the IPCC's latest report.
Jones, in conjunction with several other scientists published a paper purporting to use long-term data from 84 weather stations in China. The authors claimed these stations were chosen on the basis that they had not been changed or relocated since 1954 so that their data stream would provide a reliable record of temperatures over a 30+-year period.
Jones and his associates and later another IPCC scientist named Wang issued a similar report claimed that the stations were used because they had not been moved over a long period of time. "The stations were selected on the basis of station history: we chose those with few, if any, changes in instrumentation, location or observation times. [Jones et al.] They were chosen based on station histories: selected stations have relatively few, if any, changes in instrumentation, location, or observation times...." [Wang et al.]
But when checking over the claims made by Dr. Jones, Wang and their associates, Keenan discovered discrepancies that he says couldn't possibly be accidental. So the only logical conclusion is that Jones and his cohorts lied. Keenan's charge stemmed from the fact that the United States Department of Energy and the Chinese Academy of Sciences issued a joint report, which stated that 49 of the 84 weather stations had no history as to location, or instrumentation changes available. The remaining 35 stations, Keenan discovered, had indeed had changes in instrumentation and movement, in one case, movement as much as 41 kms.


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So I've found what the search term originally used by Oreskes and now used by Schulte is.

They entered the phrase "global climate change" into the database Web of Science.

Some problems pop up here. That database will give you an abstract, title and other tidbits on basically every scientific paper published since the 90's. Do you suppose a medical doctor can tell what the conclusion will be from an abstract, which basically lists new findings? Doctors are smart sure, but they aren't versed on the intricacies of climate science, which is needed if you expect to be able to conclude what the original authors did just by reading the abstract.

Further, the vast majority of papers produced do not include titles with all the words global, climate and change appearing in the title. They normally look something like this:

http://www.agu.org/pubs/crossref/2007/2006JD007683.shtml

What conclusions toward the respective "climate camps" this paper belongs to can be drawn from the limited information here?

The exercise is folly, just as it was when Oreskes first proclaimed there exists a consensus. There is a consensus, but it can't be described in the simple terms of this database search. Those terms omit for example close to 8,000 papers released in the big four climate journals over the specified time frame, Journal of Geophysical Research, Geophysical Research Letters, Journal of Climate and Journal of the Atmospheric Sciences. You get 18 hits on WoS for these journals.

Consensus? Depends on who you ask. The IPCC could be looked at as a consensus, mind you it's much more middle of the road than the WSJ editorials or David Suzuki Foundation.
 

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It's really funny that Al Gore makes a movie about climate change that just about anyone with a grade eight education could understand and the right wing nuts want to call it a fraud, or part of some evil conspiracy to put people out of work. The basic science Gore used was straight forward and reasonable. Anyone can disagree with the information, but they can't knock the science.
:lol:Actually, it's more like the kind of film a grade 8 student would make. Gore was wrong on almost all the so called science he used. Like those two huge graphs he used to show how CO2 preceded temperature increase over the last 400,000 years or so. But he didn't superimpose them, something that is invariably done when you want to make such comparisons. I wonder why. Actually I don't wonder. I know why. They would show the opposite, that global warming precedes CO2 increases every time. If he'd done that, he wouldn't have been able to make the movie.

Here's what it would have looked like:
 

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It's really funny that Al Gore makes a movie about climate change that just about anyone with a grade eight education could understand and the right wing nuts want to call it a fraud, or part of some evil conspiracy to put people out of work. The basic science Gore used was straight forward and reasonable. Anyone can disagree with the information, but they can't knock the science.
Juan...Again with the insults:?:

The basic science might have been straight forword and reasonable...But the over all intent and information was wrong...fundamentally and monumentally.

Much of it was false...If not an outright lie.

And though I may swing away at Bore for the movies popularity, I should actually be swinging at those, much like yourself that see this piece as a work of science...When in fact it is a work of near pure fiction...As has been proven over and over...

Schools now have this movie as part of the curriculum, without offer the opposing view...That isn't scientific, that's indoctrination.

:lol:Actually, it's more like the kind of film a grade 8 student would make. Gore was wrong on almost all the so called science he used. Like those two huge graphs he used to show how CO2 preceded temperature increase over the last 400,000 years or so. But he didn't superimpose them, something that is invariably done when you want to make such comparisons. I wonder why. Actually I don't wonder. I know why. They would show the opposite, that global warming precedes CO2 increases every time. If he'd done that, he wouldn't have been able to make the movie.

Here's what it would have looked like:
I tried show this error to juan a year ago...It did go over well then...I have no doubts it will go over all to sadly the same now.
 

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Although in the past there was something to note. While a temperature increase did always precede the rise in CO2, once the CO2 was into the atmosphere there is a positive feedback loop. Now that's not news to anybody. But if you check out the Interglacial warming periods, you will notice one difference now from then. Our interglacial warming has seen unprecedented rise in CO2, from the exact same data above, while the other interglacials on that graph show a relatively stable CO2 concentration.

Check out page 24, http://ipcc-wg1.ucar.edu/wg1/Report/AR4WG1_Print_TS.pdf
 

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Although in the past there was something to note. While a temperature increase did always precede the rise in CO2, once the CO2 was into the atmosphere there is a positive feedback loop. Now that's not news to anybody. But if you check out the Interglacial warming periods, you will notice one difference now from then. Our interglacial warming has seen unprecedented rise in CO2, from the exact same data above, while the other interglacials on that graph show a relatively stable CO2 concentration.

Check out page 24, http://ipcc-wg1.ucar.edu/wg1/Report/AR4WG1_Print_TS.pdf
I won't dispute that, but the fact that we are seeing an increase in solar activity has been dismissed...even by yourself, if I recall...as a major contributor to the issue of global warming...

The issue og man being the single most detrimental effect is what I question Ton...I don't think we are, that's not to say that our actions have not play a stars role in this production, but the measures demanded are based on the flawed theory it's all our fault. Thus creating a fevered pitch of enviro/eco extremist demands that are detrimental to our way of life.

Going green is the issue...if you ask me...it's the instant demand and call to extreme action that effects the economy and thus effects peoples ablity to operate and live comfortably...

You talk of peoples rights in one thread...yet what you support here is as detrimental to people lives as removing their Chartered protections.

If we bend to the wims and dreams of such wealthy asshats as AlBore...we risk crush the little man, there is nothing in play here to protect us from the ultimate result of increased prices for such items as home heating and transportation, which have broad reaching effects on food prices and consumer goods.

This is alot like Harris's idea that deregulating the rental market, would show a drop in rental prices...Not a bad idea...so long as the developers have been filling the market with spaces...his idea was a dismal failure. The poor were hurt.

The moral of that lil tale is...

There has to be mechanisms in play before the eco nuts get their way, or the lil people will ultimately pay the ultimate price...more so then the wealthy by any stretch of the imagination...kinda like AlBore eh?
 

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If you listen to serious scientists, they do not say it is all our fault. They say that in the realms of probability, based on available data, it is most likely that at least half of the observed warming is our fault. Not a concrete statement by any means, there is much science left to discover, but at this point, we know we are the largest single contributor. There is no new science coming out which can dispute that. You're right that I have disputed the solar argument, because total measured irradiance does not fit. If a major groundbreaking study were to be released with solid evidence that proves otherwise to the anthropogenic argument, I'll humbly sing a different tune. Until that time, if indeed such a time exists, I have to throw my support to the multiple streams of data which currently point the finger at us.

What I support is less corporate handouts to dirty technology. Coal is only cheap due to subsidies. To lock into new plants for 40-60 years when renewables will be cost competitive on a $/MW basis within the next decades is fool hearty. The coal industry has yet to demonstrate that the carbon can be sequestered reliably, most definitely not cheaply. Once electrical production is made renewable, efficient and clean, it will be much easier to drag the transport industry along. I'm happy to say that wind is already growing by leaps and bounds, without much help from government. If the government were willing to work with renewables like they do with the dirty energy producers, well that would be peachy.