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February 15th, 2007, 04:52 PM
On 640am radio this morning, David suzuki was being interviewed about global warming. He refused to discuss any notion that the science used by the IPCC is not agreed upon by all scientists. Suzuki became very angry that this topic was even mentioned. I didn't realize he was so thin skinned. He should stay inside the cocoon of the CBC if he doesn't want people to ask him tough questions.
On 640am radio this morning, David suzuki was being interviewed about global warming. He refused to discuss any notion that the science used by the IPCC is not agreed upon by all scientists. Suzuki became very angry that this topic was even mentioned. I didn't realize he was so thin skinned. He should stay inside the cocoon of the CBC if he doesn't want people to ask him tough questions.
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February 15th, 2007, 05:07 PM
We'll be danceing to Koyoto now ,voluntarily, or later when it won't be as easy to keep up with the music.
We'll be danceing to Koyoto now ,voluntarily, or later when it won't be as easy to keep up with the music.
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February 15th, 2007, 05:27 PM
Quoting darkbeaver
Don't annoy the ostriches.......
We'll be danceing to Koyoto now ,voluntarily, or later when it won't be as easy to keep up with the music.
February 15th, 2007, 05:39 PM
Most of us agree that there is an issue, we dissagree with the science, we've posted enough scientific material to show the flaws with the science behind Kyoto. All we ask for is better plan. One that doesn't let China build 500 coal fire stations, while our economy goes for a shyte. You're retired juan, I'ld like to retire comfortably one day to. If we're forced to jump on the burning banwagon, your grand kids will be paying my bills.
Quoting #juan
Why is it you think we're all Ostriches?
Don't annoy the ostriches.......
Most of us agree that there is an issue, we dissagree with the science, we've posted enough scientific material to show the flaws with the science behind Kyoto. All we ask for is better plan. One that doesn't let China build 500 coal fire stations, while our economy goes for a shyte. You're retired juan, I'ld like to retire comfortably one day to. If we're forced to jump on the burning banwagon, your grand kids will be paying my bills.
Les
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Location: 50 acres in Kootenays BC
February 15th, 2007, 05:41 PM
Quoting Walter
The guy's a geneticist, not a climatologist. I met him and his dad, I like his dad better because he's got his poop in a group, Suzuki is not exactly what I would call level headed.
On 640am radio this morning, David suzuki was being interviewed about global warming. He refused to discuss any notion that the science used by the IPCC is not agreed upon by all scientists. Suzuki became very angry that this topic was even mentioned. I didn't realize he was so thin skinned. He should stay inside the cocoon of the CBC if he doesn't want people to ask him tough questions.
Les
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Location: 50 acres in Kootenays BC
Location: 50 acres in Kootenays BC
February 15th, 2007, 05:43 PM
Quoting darkbeaver
Better to minimize our effects on GW using science rather than political spin like Kyoto.
We'll be danceing to Koyoto now ,voluntarily, or later when it won't be as easy to keep up with the music.
Les
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Location: 50 acres in Kootenays BC
Location: 50 acres in Kootenays BC
February 15th, 2007, 05:45 PM
Quoting #juan
Oh, no has Suzuki & the environuts been panicking the ostriches, too? Let's all set our hair on fire and screech together now, "OH, NO!!!! Global Warming gonna git us".
Don't annoy the ostriches.......
Les
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Location: 50 acres in Kootenays BC
Location: 50 acres in Kootenays BC
February 15th, 2007, 05:48 PM
Quoting CDNBear
I don't disagree with the science, I disagree with all the friggin panicmongers, fearmongers, and political crap involved.
Why is it you think we're all Ostriches?
Most of us agree that there is an issue, we dissagree with the science
Most of us agree that there is an issue, we dissagree with the science
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Right. Let's use some sense instead of hype about the issue.
we've posted enough scientific material to show the flaws with the science behind Kyoto. All we ask for is better plan. One that doesn't let China build 500 coal fire stations, while our economy goes for a shyte. You're retired juan, I'ld like to retire comfortably one day to. If we're forced to jump on the burning banwagon, your grand kids will be paying my bills.
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August 1st, 2007, 06:28 AM
http://www.orato.com/node/3148/print
More on Suzuki. He really has lost it.
http://www.orato.com/node/3148/print
More on Suzuki. He really has lost it.
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February 8th, 2008, 07:10 PM
Dementia is setting in for Skuzuki.
Suzuki's science inquisition
John GormleyThe StarPhoenix
Friday, February 08, 2008
If the last few centuries have taught us anything, there are instructive lessons to be learned on mob rule, intolerance in the name of religious belief and muzzling those who dare speak against the orthodoxy of the day.
David Suzuki is turning into the modern poster boy for some centuries-old practices we should avoid.
After earning a PhD in zoology in 1961, Suzuki has done little "hands-on" work in the lab since his TV show The Nature of Things took off in the late 1970s.
And he's used his celebrity to crusade on all things environmental. A committed and often alarmist campaigner, Suzuki aptly describes himself as "cantankerous, opinionated and narrow minded."
And evidently he is not an economist or even a trained environmental scientist either.
Lately, Suzuki's zeal may have bubbled up past the crazy line with his suggestion of jailing people who ignore science.
In the midst of regaling an obsequious student audience at McGill, Suzuki turned his bluster to economic growth, saying using gross domestic product to measure growth is "nutty."
And he turned his trademark hyperbole on biotechnology, claiming any scientist who says it's safe is either "ignorant or lying."
Then Suzuki unleashed his bombast on politics, urging students to look for a legal way to throw our political leaders in jail for "ignoring science" and saying "politicians, who never see beyond the next election, are committing a criminal act by ignoring science."
Look as hard as you might, kids: There is no legal way to throw people in jail for disagreeing with and ignoring the opinions of others.
Oddly, it seems lost on Suzuki that the marketplace of ideas, where people are free to agree and disagree, is one of those quaint and useful notions that make democracies work.
Presumably, Suzuki wouldn't spare jail for those who follow the science of climate change skeptics. So the issue is not "ignoring science." It's ignoring his science that will land you in the slammer.
And, what about those scientists -- real, peer-reviewed people with tenure -- who don't embrace Suzuki-science and the quasi-religious fervor of eco-faith? What should be done with them?
Surely, in Suzuki's world, they also must be "ignoring science." Jail them too, Dave -- political prisoners can never have enough company.
If anyone else in Canada advocated jailing people for the crime of disagreeing with them they'd rightly be called bigots, fascists or dismissed as kooks.
It's time that the high priests of the Church of the Environment, like Suzuki, started reading their history.
And for the rest of us, it's time that we started calling this stuff what it is.
Dementia is setting in for Skuzuki.
Suzuki's science inquisition
John GormleyThe StarPhoenix
Friday, February 08, 2008
If the last few centuries have taught us anything, there are instructive lessons to be learned on mob rule, intolerance in the name of religious belief and muzzling those who dare speak against the orthodoxy of the day.
David Suzuki is turning into the modern poster boy for some centuries-old practices we should avoid.
After earning a PhD in zoology in 1961, Suzuki has done little "hands-on" work in the lab since his TV show The Nature of Things took off in the late 1970s.
And he's used his celebrity to crusade on all things environmental. A committed and often alarmist campaigner, Suzuki aptly describes himself as "cantankerous, opinionated and narrow minded."
And evidently he is not an economist or even a trained environmental scientist either.
Lately, Suzuki's zeal may have bubbled up past the crazy line with his suggestion of jailing people who ignore science.
In the midst of regaling an obsequious student audience at McGill, Suzuki turned his bluster to economic growth, saying using gross domestic product to measure growth is "nutty."
And he turned his trademark hyperbole on biotechnology, claiming any scientist who says it's safe is either "ignorant or lying."
Then Suzuki unleashed his bombast on politics, urging students to look for a legal way to throw our political leaders in jail for "ignoring science" and saying "politicians, who never see beyond the next election, are committing a criminal act by ignoring science."
Look as hard as you might, kids: There is no legal way to throw people in jail for disagreeing with and ignoring the opinions of others.
Oddly, it seems lost on Suzuki that the marketplace of ideas, where people are free to agree and disagree, is one of those quaint and useful notions that make democracies work.
Presumably, Suzuki wouldn't spare jail for those who follow the science of climate change skeptics. So the issue is not "ignoring science." It's ignoring his science that will land you in the slammer.
And, what about those scientists -- real, peer-reviewed people with tenure -- who don't embrace Suzuki-science and the quasi-religious fervor of eco-faith? What should be done with them?
Surely, in Suzuki's world, they also must be "ignoring science." Jail them too, Dave -- political prisoners can never have enough company.
If anyone else in Canada advocated jailing people for the crime of disagreeing with them they'd rightly be called bigots, fascists or dismissed as kooks.
It's time that the high priests of the Church of the Environment, like Suzuki, started reading their history.
And for the rest of us, it's time that we started calling this stuff what it is.
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February 14th, 2008, 09:06 AM
I'll admit I had respect and admiration for his Nature of Things show, as it did teach a lot about many things, but like everything, one can only hold faith in so much.
Like I said in another thread, ever since he did that pot episode, I think he's gotten all screwed up and in with the wrong crowd..... the crowd of the Neo-Hippies who think the world's going to end.
And why did he get all pissy when someone brought up the question? If he knew wtf he was talking about to begin with, then he wouldn't need to freak out and would have a valid explination which everyone could agree on.
He doesn't, we all don't agree.... he spazzes because us people who actually take time to think and listen to all available options are clouding his campaign of one and only one answer.
Get over it you old fart... some new minds are on the streets now, and just because we had the internet to grow up and use for the last decade or so, doesn't mean you gotta get all jellious that we know more then you, cuz you had to learn the hard way by getting off your ass and applying yourself. Perhaps that is why he is getting all moody, because he thinks we have everything so easy and yet, we also know more about the overall picture and we won't just funnel our intelligence to one answer provided by him and Gore.
I'll admit I had respect and admiration for his Nature of Things show, as it did teach a lot about many things, but like everything, one can only hold faith in so much.
Like I said in another thread, ever since he did that pot episode, I think he's gotten all screwed up and in with the wrong crowd..... the crowd of the Neo-Hippies who think the world's going to end.
And why did he get all pissy when someone brought up the question? If he knew wtf he was talking about to begin with, then he wouldn't need to freak out and would have a valid explination which everyone could agree on.
He doesn't, we all don't agree.... he spazzes because us people who actually take time to think and listen to all available options are clouding his campaign of one and only one answer.
Get over it you old fart... some new minds are on the streets now, and just because we had the internet to grow up and use for the last decade or so, doesn't mean you gotta get all jellious that we know more then you, cuz you had to learn the hard way by getting off your ass and applying yourself. Perhaps that is why he is getting all moody, because he thinks we have everything so easy and yet, we also know more about the overall picture and we won't just funnel our intelligence to one answer provided by him and Gore.
