The North Pole is an insane 36 degrees warmer than normal as winter descends

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The North Pole is an insane 36 degrees warmer than normal as winter descends

Political people in the United States are watching the chaos in Washington in the moment. But some people in the science community are watching the chaos somewhere else — the Arctic.

It’s polar night there now — the sun isn’t rising in much of the Arctic. That’s when the Arctic is supposed to get super-cold, when the sea ice that covers the vast Arctic Ocean is supposed to grow and thicken.

But in fall of 2016 — which has been a zany year for the region, with multiple records set for low levels of monthly sea ice — something is totally off. The Arctic is super-hot, even as a vast area of cold polar air has been displaced over Siberia.

At the same time, one of the key indicators of the state of the Arctic — the extent of sea ice covering the polar ocean — is at a record low. The ice is freezing up again, as it always does this time of year after reaching its September low, but it isn’t doing so as rapidly as usual.

In fact, the ice’s area is even lower than it was during the record-low 2012:

What’s happening, he explains, is sort of a “double whammy.” On the one hand, there is a “very warm underlying ocean” due to the lack of sea ice forming above it. But, at the same time, kinks in the jet stream have allowed warm air to flow northward and frigid Arctic air to descend over Siberia.

“The sea ice is at a record low right now, for this time of year, that’s one thing,” Serreze said. “And why it’s so low — again, there’s so much heat in the upper ocean in these ice-free areas, the ice just can’t form right now. The ocean’s just got to get rid of this heat somehow, and it’s having a hard time doing so.”

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...er-descends/?tid=sm_tw&utm_term=.2a7a1372c005
 

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Sunspots or are the rifts heating up the water? Would that not allow the lower parts to also be warmer than usual so when the ice finally does cover the open water the temp drop is faster than normal and that would cause more snow in a shorter period of time down south as warmer air also holds more moisture. A low over the GOM and a high over NFLD would result in NY,NY getting lake effect snows but from the moisture coming ashore from the Atlantic Ocean's warm current that flows north..
How much deeper would that snowfall be compared to what the Great Lakes can deliver??

Alaska and the north Coast of Canada might start off as being warmer due to the warmer water and a shift in the wind patterns that bring mild Pacific air up there for the first part of the changes. If the permanent ice starts in the east and works it way to the west coast it makes little difference in the long run, in the short term it would be resort like weather, something like Scotland gets now thanks to the warm water that comes from the GOM.

 

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looks like you global warming nutbars are a little late

btw
the common sense isn't for the idiotologue
its for the unwary who might read this thread
 

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Still reminds me of Leonardo DiCaprio declaring a chinook as evidence of global warming, even though they changed the name of the crisis to "climate change".




Where's that?

Ask Darkbeaver.

http://thechronicleherald.ca/opinion/1288420-ada-mccallum-the-people’s-madam
 

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Arctic Sea could be ice-free by 2050
Summer sea ice could soon be gone due to humanity’s large carbon dioxide output
https://www.sciencenewsforstudents.org/article/arctic-sea-could-be-ice-free-2050

'Ships will sail over the North Pole by 2017'
he North Pole could be free of sea ice next summer or the one after, according to a leading climate scientist, who predicts that the impact of Arctic melting on the planet and its population will be profound.

Cambridge University Professor Peter Wadhams, who is head of the Polar Oceans Physics Group, believes that ships will be able to sail over the North Pole in summer 2017 or 2018.
https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2016/08/arctic-ice-melt-by-2017-says-peter-wadhams/

well... I guess it depends on which defective mathematical model are you using

Does UK climate scientist and sea ice researcher Professor Peter Wadhams think three of his peers were assassinated?
Webster’s story, carrying the headline Climate scientist fears murder by hitman, quoted Wadhams as saying the deaths were “too bizarre to be accidental”.
http://www.desmogblog.com/2015/07/2...ys-he-does-not-think-colleagues-were-murdered

No, they told me to say no...and I mean NO damn it!

Professor Peter Wadhams will not bet on his own sea-ice predictions
https://wattsupwiththat.com/2016/07...-will-not-bet-on-his-own-sea-ice-predictions/

effen fic, some of you just don't get you are being played
 
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Ask Darkbeaver.

http://thechronicleherald.ca/opinion/1288420-ada-mccallum-the-people’s-madam


Ahh, DB got her spelling wrong, I get it now. I lived down the street from Jimmy Melvin and Jimmy Jr., I guess I just didn't pay a lot of attention to the weird sh!t that went on then either.

Whatever happened to the ice free arctic by 2013? Did the ojia board get the years mixed up?


I heard they tried to get a refund on their tarot cards too but didn't read the disclaimer.
 

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