Navy Resumes Celestial Navigation Course

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It's a scene straight out of a Tom Clancy novel. An adversary, seeking to gain the upper hand, manages to blind GPS satellites in a first strike. As alert levels rise and military leaders attempt to assess the situation, ships at sea must somehow get an accurate fix of their position . . . without the use of modern technology.

The United States Navy recently recognized modern vulnerabilities by bringing back an old method for navigating at sea: the Naval Academy in Annapolis, Maryland, has just resumed training officers in the lost art of celestial navigation. Although this training used to be standard in the U.S. Navy, the advent of GPS technology so simplified and improved the ability to find a ship's position at sea that the Navy ROTC ended celestial navigation training in 2000, and the U.S. Naval Academy phased it out as well in 2006.


But the U.S. Navy and the Department of Defense are taking cyber threats to technological infrastructure seriously. Commercial GPS jammers are now readily available on the internet. And while the U.S., China, the European Union, Russia, and India are all moving to assure they have their own exclusive GPS network in orbit, a deliberate attack may not even be necessary. A space debris chain reaction known as an ablation cascade could knock out our GPS capability, or a strong Earth-directed solar storm such as the 1859 Carrington super-flare event could do the job just as well.


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Curious Cdn

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Grand idea. If there is a reasonably big conflict involving a couple of larger powers,the GPS network is probably a military target. I think that training navigational skills developed over the last five hundred years is an inspired idea. Know what the hell you are doing and don't realy on computers for everything.
 

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Bet you got the ugliest angina east of Saskatoon.

Saskatoon being the MEDIAN of ugly anginae.

So, when in the US Navy going to go back to teaching Morse Code, semaphore, etc.

...just in case the cell phone net is hacked by the North Koreans?
 

Tecumsehsbones

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Saskatoon being the MEDIAN of ugly anginae.

So, when in the US Navy going to go back to teaching Morse Code, semaphore, etc.

...just in case the cell phone net is hacked by the North Koreans?
I'm waiting for 'em to re-teach catting and fishing the anchors.

They never gave up on splicing the mainbrace.
 

Johnnny

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You would honest to God surprised how many bushmen can't point out the north star, in the night sky.... like come on guys it's the freaking compass in the sky

Doesnt the yeoman on the frigate in our armed forces already know this?
 

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Maybe hemp rope's next to come back....
It should replace 1/2 the canola and wheat if we over-produce those commodities. Rope and 1,000 other long lasting products. How about woven furniture (willow style) where the frame weighs 30lbs and can hold 900 lbs and the list goes on. As somebody from the place that 'can grow things' I would think you would be all over making this a western Canada product all the way to it's final form rather than the way it is starting where Ontario is the only place taking it past the raw harvest stage and it is done on such a small scale it would be 1 train-load of hemp while the west would be able to supply quite a number of trains and like the wheat all of it was sent east (for the most part since you are a stickler for details, not a bad point)

Now, about which way the wind is blowing, . . . .

You would honest to God surprised how many bushmen can't point out the north star, in the night sky.... like come on guys it's the freaking compass in the sky
Due south if found using an analog watch. Point the hour hand at the sun and due south is halfway between that point and 12 on the watch's face.
Just the math would have been 'useful' for finding the path of the Russian meteor from a few years back or any of the more recent ones. Since it is a math based skill today's smart phones could have an app that given inclination and another one that has the correct time and another one that is an accurate compass. Google earth is detailed enough that you can find your location in 3 dimensions to use as a location the sightings were taken from. Google earth would need to have the high-res maps on it's local hd as it is cloud powered so a new area wound not have the best maps unless that was the 2nd time there as it stores a local copy on the host drive.

Once those are the apps and it spits out a copy of the math that was used the user can review that as a teaching aid for when the power goes out. Finding south needs the time and the user being able to visualize a sundial to line up to the sun anytime during the day
 

Curious Cdn

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I'm waiting for 'em to re-teach catting and fishing the anchors.

They never gave up on splicing the mainbrace.

For the first time in our history, our own Navy is no longer splicing the mainbrace and the ships are officially "dry", thanks to a few idiots who got pissed and ignorant in San Diego during RIMPAC a couple of years, ago. Imagine, if you will, a corvette-sized ship being sent home in disgrace from the biggest Navy party in the world.

BAD DOG!!! BAD DOG!!!
 

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You would honest to God surprised how many bushmen can't point out the north star, in the night sky.... like come on guys it's the freaking compass in the sky

Doesnt the yeoman on the frigate in our armed forces already know this?

"Yeoman" is an American naval term for "Secretary".

I have this image of a Coxswain staring up at the starry sky (it had better be clear!), spoked wooden wheel in hand, steering by a star ("Arrrr! That be Polaris! Arrrr!) like it's 1412 again.
 

Tecumsehsbones

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"Yeoman" is an American naval term for "Secretary".

I have this image of a Coxswain staring up at the starry sky (it had better be clear!), spoked wooden wheel in hand, steering by a star ("Arrrr! That be Polaris! Arrrr!) like it's 1412 again.
No, it's an American term used to get somebody's attention, as in "Yo man, wassup?"