#31
Re: Do you consider marijuana riskier than alcohol or tobacco?
Dec 23rd, 2011
its proper name is cannabis
Do you consider marijuana riskier than alcohol or tobacco?
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#32Re: Do you consider marijuana riskier than alcohol or tobacco?
Dec 23rd, 2011Quote: Originally Posted by Ron in Regina
Uhm....I'm think'n that's not what you think it is. The pic
looks Egyptian, and dope is a new world (across the
atlantic) thing, wasn't it?
Quote: Originally Posted by Cliffy
Did a bit of reading, & I was wrong. Dope's an old world thingThe Arabic people have been smoking hashish for thousands of years. Pot has been used as a medicine for longer than that.....
(Cliffy is correct) and was introduced to the Americas. Tobacco
and Coco (& Coca) and Corn and Potatoes such came back the
other way.
Quote: Originally Posted by darkbeaver
Whoops...its proper name is cannabis
#33
Re: Do you consider marijuana riskier than alcohol or tobacco?
Dec 23rd, 2011Quote: Originally Posted by Ron in Regina
Did a bit of reading, & I was wrong. Dope's an old world thing
(Cliffy is correct) and was introduced to the Americas. Tobacco
and Coco (& Coca) and Corn and Potatoes such came back the
other way.
Whoops...
Bob Newhart skit on Tobacco - YouTube
#34
Re: Do you consider marijuana riskier than alcohol or tobacco?
Dec 23rd, 2011Quote: Originally Posted by Cannuck
Is that why Pharmaceutical Companies have spent 10's upon 10's of millions researching and gather information on old medicines used by people from Africa to South America. Some people used to "bleed" sick people to get rid of the badness. I get a kick out of the idea that because ancient people did something, it must be inherently good or wise.
Guess they were stupid eh.
#35
Re: Do you consider marijuana riskier than alcohol or tobacco?
Dec 23rd, 2011Quote: Originally Posted by Goober
No, they just understand that people are stupid. The Slap Chop is ample evidence that people will buy anything.Guess they were stupid eh.
#36
Re: Do you consider marijuana riskier than alcohol or tobacco?
Dec 23rd, 2011
Depends on what you consider harmful. Will kill you, tobacco and alcohol hands down, stunt your academic ability while using it marijuana and alcohol. That is two points for alcohol.
#37
Re: Do you consider marijuana riskier than alcohol or tobacco?
Dec 24th, 2011Quote: Originally Posted by Cannuck
I agree. No, they just understand that people are stupid.
The following being an excellent example of that.
Quote: Originally Posted by Cannuck
Some people used to "bleed" sick people to get rid of the badness. I get a kick out of the idea that because ancient people did something, it must be inherently good or wise.
#38
Re: Do you consider marijuana riskier than alcohol or tobacco?
Dec 24th, 2011Quote: Originally Posted by Ron in Regina
I am not a marywanna smoking pot head I am a patient of Dr Cannabis. Did a bit of reading, & I was wrong. Dope's an old world thing
(Cliffy is correct) and was introduced to the Americas. Tobacco
and Coco (& Coca) and Corn and Potatoes such came back the
other way.
Whoops...
#39
Re: Do you consider marijuana riskier than alcohol or tobacco?
Dec 24th, 2011Quote: Originally Posted by darkbeaver
Don't you mean...I am not a marywanna smoking pot head I am a patient of Dr Cannabis.
Cypress Hill- DrGreenThumb uncensored - YouTube
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#40Re: Do you consider marijuana riskier than alcohol or tobacco?
Dec 24th, 2011Quote:
Goddess Seshat was keeper of Holy Books written by Thoth including those of medicine and science. Bastet was another Egyptian goddess associated with cannabis. And there were others in India and China. Hemp did not come into the New World until the mid 1500s though there were other herbs that provided similar medical value.quoting Ron:
Uhm....I'm think'n that's not what you think it is. The pic
looks Egyptian, and dope is a new world (across the
atlantic) thing, wasn't it?
#41
Re: Do you consider marijuana riskier than alcohol or tobacco?
Dec 24th, 2011
Man uses weed to expand spiritual horizons and weed uses man to spread it's seeds around far and wide and tend to it's needs to prosper.
#42
Re: Do you consider marijuana riskier than alcohol or tobacco?
Dec 24th, 2011
Seshat's modern day worshipers believe she is the Goddess of those seeking expansion of intellectual and spiritual horizons.
#43
Re: Do you consider marijuana riskier than alcohol or tobacco?
Dec 25th, 2011Quote: Originally Posted by CDNBear
Sphagnum moss that is another piece of it, Bear. I learned the wonders of this moss when I used it to heal a bad wound on a dogs neck. It took me three days to have the wound pink and clean - by the weekend it had healed completely. I am never without a supply of it now and am lucky as it grows on a pond just up the road from where I live - the moss also has antiseptic properties.Bleeding an infected wound is still an excellent remedy.
The powder off Birch bark is still an antiseptic pain killer. Wood cutting boards are better, because wood contains natural antiseptics.
That's just the tip of the iceberg.
I get a kick out of people that think because science usurped ancient remedies, it somehow negates ancient remedies.
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#44Re: Do you consider marijuana riskier than alcohol or tobacco?
Dec 25th, 2011
Plantain.
Awesome anti-inflammatory and astringent. Works fast on skeeter bites.
Awesome anti-inflammatory and astringent. Works fast on skeeter bites.
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#45Re: Do you consider marijuana riskier than alcohol or tobacco?
Dec 25th, 2011Quote: Originally Posted by earth_as_one
Not all users buy from criminals, some are lucky enough to know someone who grows enough to support their occasional habit and that of other occasional users. Small Ma and Pa operations are prevalent in every corner of the province of BC. One need not resort to buying from a gang member in order to have a good smoke now and then. Users buy from criminals and support criminal activity which include violence in the form of turf wars and theft.
Quote:
You are right about that which is why many smokers I know do not broadcast their use of marijuana nor do they break further laws by driving after smoking or being intoxicated when at work.Who are you going to complain to is someone robs you of your marijuana? The law also puts people's careers at risk, interferes with travel...
#46
Re: Do you consider marijuana riskier than alcohol or tobacco?
Dec 25th, 2011
Anyone who grows two or three plants for themselves has nothing to worry about unless they turn a nickel or get behind the wheel.
#47
Re: Do you consider marijuana riskier than alcohol or tobacco?
Dec 25th, 2011Quote: Originally Posted by petros
And lest we forget, my all-time fav - the lovely and oh so exceptional - Achillea millefolium - aka Yarrow.Plantain.
Awesome anti-inflammatory and astringent. Works fast on skeeter bites.
Isn't it amazing what is available in so many of our own backyards, fields, meadows and ponds? I have yet to identify one plant that grows on my land which doesn't have some medicinal or edible property. I even have some chicory which makes for a weak but potable coffee substitute.
#48
Re: Do you consider marijuana riskier than alcohol or tobacco?
Dec 25th, 2011
Ever heard of bloodroot? A native buddy got me on to this one:
Quote:
Blackroot is another he uses to purge before fasting. It makes you puke and gives you the ****s.
Research is
very promising for Bloodroot constituents. One is sanguinarine; it is showing
results as an anesthetic, antibacterial, anti-cholinesterase, anti-edemic,
anti-gingivitic, anti-inflammatory, anti-neoplastic, antioxidant,
anti-periodontic, anti-plaque, antiseptic, diuretic, emetic, expectorant,
fungicide, gastrocontractant, hypertensive, pesticide, respiratory stimulant
and more. Another important constituent is Berberine (also found in Goldenseal,
Oregon Grape and Honeysuckle) which is showing promise in fighting brain tumors
and many other cancers.
#49
Re: Do you consider marijuana riskier than alcohol or tobacco?
Dec 25th, 2011
Roasted Chicory and dandelion roots mixed make an even better coffee substitute. Yarrow is not only medicinal but is also used to throw the I ching. I have use plantain and mullein for over 40 years.
#50
Re: Do you consider marijuana riskier than alcohol or tobacco?
Dec 31st, 2011Quote: Originally Posted by Retired_Can_Soldier
The gateway argument is the whole correlation vs. causation fallacy that people go around spouting as if everyone knew it, but they never apply it in practice.I don't buy the gateway argument.
Quote: Originally Posted by talloola
This is all true, but I really think the conclusion to draw from this is that drugs should be legalized. All of those risks you mention arise not from inherent problems of the drugs, but from the fact that their distribution is uncontrolled, i.e. black (funny that "controlled substances" are distributed in uncontrolled markets). All the same was said of alcohol during prohibition. Legalize drugs, tax drugs, and use those tax revenues to treat the addicts; as it is now, our income tax is used to "treat" addicts (and non-problem users) with prison sentences.I consider drug use riskier because it affects the whole country because of the crime deaths, gangs,
drug lords, smuggling, and generally makes people involved look weak and miserable, and the suppliers look
greedy, and a detrement to the good of the country, and a drain on the police force, and dangerous to
the innocent because of break n entry and general theft to obtain money for drugs.
Many people, due to a misplaced sense of righteousness, don't want to see these criminal organizations (like the Hell's Angels) become legitimate when drugs are legalized. I think the cycle of violence needs to stop. I would like to see the Hell's Angels become a legal business instead of the pack of murderers they seem to be.
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