Some depressing science

#juan
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This whole thing was put together by a professor at UCSD. I haven't gone through it
all yet but what I have seen is a little depressing, especially to those who always thought
that we would always somehow muddle through.

Select guide to posts and then I would read no. 16 first "Why not space"

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darkbeaver
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What exactly depresses you about this Juan? Limits to human expansion?
 
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Quote: Originally Posted by darkbeaverView Post

What exactly depresses you about this Juan? Limits to human expansion?

Limits to human expansion certainly, but limits to man period. China will last until the Americans can no longer afford
to buy their stuff, and they will also be broke sometime after that. Our leaders should be doing something about this
situation now but I don't see any signs of it.
 
mentalfloss
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Quote: Originally Posted by #juanView Post

Limits to human expansion certainly, but limits to man period. China will last until the Americans can no longer afford
to buy their stuff, and they will also be broke sometime after that. Our leaders should be doing something about this
situation now but I don't see any signs of it.

We're going through a sharp transitionary period this century where there will be a greater focus on transhumanism and environmental sustainability. There won't be any significant advances in exploration until we resolve our energy crisis. I don't think that kind of tech will be ready in this millenium.
 
darkbeaver
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Quote: Originally Posted by #juanView Post

Limits to human expansion certainly, but limits to man period. China will last until the Americans can no longer afford
to buy their stuff, and they will also be broke sometime after that. Our leaders should be doing something about this
situation now but I don't see any signs of it.

If we had honourable leaders we wouldn't be worried about collapse and war right now. I think about these things as well. There is nothing new about it, only now it won't be the others being chopped up. You know they say there are no limits to a humans expansion except human expansion.

Quote: Originally Posted by mentalflossView Post

We're going through a sharp transitionary period this century where there will be a greater focus on transhumanism and environmental sustainability. There won't be any significant advances in exploration until we resolve our energy crisis. I don't think that kind of tech will be ready in this millenium.

Yeah it's going to be tough but in the end we will have crushed the transhumans and won the planet back from the evil bankers. The energy crisis is manufactured.
 
#juan
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When Armstrong first climbed down the ladder and made the statement about the "small step", I was one of those that
expected the moon landing. I watched all of the moon landings but by the end of the Appollo program I was getting a
bit jaded. I was ready to start preparing for Mars. I was convinced that a Mars trip was just a few years away.
Right now I don't think a Mars trip will happen in the next fifty years; maybe not in the next five hundred.

I'm not nearly as optimistic as I once was about any thing.
 
SLM
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Quote: Originally Posted by #juanView Post

When Armstrong first climbed down the ladder and made the statement about the "small step", I was one of those that
expected the moon landing. I watched all of the moon landings but by the end of the Appollo program I was getting a
bit jaded. I was ready to start preparing for Mars. I was convinced that a Mars trip was just a few years away.
Right now I don't think a Mars trip will happen in the next fifty years; maybe not in the next five hundred.

I'm not nearly as optimistic as I once was about any thing.

Isn't that kind of really open-ended optimism a luxury of youth? I mean, we all get at least somewhat jaded when we get older no?

Just a thought.
 
petros
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Where is my hover car dammit. As a kid I was promised by TV (Satan) we'd have hover cars by Y2K. WTF?

 
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Where is my hover car dammit. As a kid I was promised by TV (Satan) we'd have hover cars by Y2K. WTF?

That wasn't Satan, that was the Jetsons.
 
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Only Satan would have a talking dog a with a speech impediment.
 
SLM
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Only Satan would have a talking dog a with a speech impediment.

True. No talking dog has ever had a speech impediment.
 
petros
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Just all of them except Brian.
 
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Just all of them except Brian.

What about Mr. Peabody?

mr peabody and sherman - YouTube

 
petros
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Too smart, only one of the hounds of Hell could be like Peabody. Same goes for Brian.
 
#juan
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Quote: Originally Posted by SLMView Post

Isn't that kind of really open-ended optimism a luxury of youth? I mean, we all get at least somewhat jaded when we get older no?
Just a thought.

I wish it were that simple. A trip to Mars and back would cost more money than the world has got. Global warming is real and the stupid "super powers" can't agree what to do about it. The last two conferences have come and gone with no significant solutions. The U.S., Russia, China, and India, don't want to do anything at the moment and unless they do, the world will be on a slippery slide that will be
harder and harder to stop the longer we let it grow.
 
darkbeaver
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Global warming is not real and the super powers have agreed to do nothing about it. That should tell you something. They don't care about an invented non problem.
 
#juan
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Quote: Originally Posted by darkbeaverView Post

Global warming is not real and the super powers have agreed to do nothing about it. That should tell you something. They don't care about an invented non problem.

I see. Regardless of the millions of tons of ice that has melted from Greenland and the Antarctic, Global warming is still something invented by Wall street or somebody.........In the Canadian arctic there are many thousands of square miles of bare tundra that has been covered with ice for centuries but that was done by sun spots or something......Great thinking.....
 
darkbeaver
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Quote: Originally Posted by #juanView Post

I see. Regardless of the millions of tons of ice that has melted from Greenland and the Antarctic, Global warming is still something invented by Wall street or somebody.........In the Canadian arctic there are many thousands of square miles of bare tundra that has been covered with ice for centuries but that was done by sun spots or something......Great thinking.....

That would be important if the ice was a permanent feature, it isn't now nor has it ever been a permanent feature, it is subject to natural climatic variability, the same as every thing else on the planet. Pay the tax if it'll let you sleep but I warn you I'll will be waiting for your post complaining about the slow progress in glacier reconstruction.
 

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