Distant prayer does not cure AIDS...


Tonington
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...and it cost American tax payers $-- to test the hypothesis. Wow. Good thing that debt problem was solved.
 
china
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Distant prayer does not cure AIDS...

-but Hydrogen Peroxide does......for pennies a day at that .
 
taxslave
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I'm sure lead pills would cure stupid politicians and bureaucrats. Eliminate the first ten, if the problem is not solved replace clip and repeat until positive results are produced.
 
JLM
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Quote: Originally Posted by chinaView Post

Distant prayer does not cure AIDS...

-but Hydrogen Peroxide does......for pennies a day at that .

No sh*t Sherlock!
 
Tonington
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Quote: Originally Posted by chinaView Post

Distant prayer does not cure AIDS...

-but Hydrogen Peroxide does......for pennies a day at that .

And then die from an embolism, for only pennies a day! It's highly toxic. It exists in your body inside cells (phagocytes) which ingest pathogens and produce the radical oxygen species in respiratory bursts, and is kept compartmentalized because it's toxic both to invaders and the phagocyte, what do you think would happen if you injected or drank this stuff? It burns...for pennies a day.
 
Cannuck
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Quote: Originally Posted by ToningtonView Post

And then die from an embolism, for only pennies a day! It's highly toxic. It exists in your body inside cells (phagocytes) which ingest pathogens and produce the radical oxygen species in respiratory bursts, and is kept compartmentalized because it's toxic both to invaders and the phagocyte, what do you think would happen if you injected or drank this stuff? It burns...for pennies a day.

Not sure of the health benefits to humans (I've yet to see a study on it) but I do know that I mixed 35% food grade peroxide 100:1 with distilled water and misted my house plants with it. The results were incredible.
 
Tonington
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Quote: Originally Posted by CannuckView Post

Not sure of the health benefits to humans (I've yet to see a study on it) but I do know that I mixed 35% food grade peroxide 100:1 with distilled water and misted my house plants with it. The results were incredible.

Well, first of all it's toxic. If you dillute it to levels low enough to mitigate the risks of exposure, then I have to wonder how effective it could be as a treatment for a virus that hides within our own cells. There's no evidence for any claim that it cures AIDS.
 
Cliffy
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Quote: Originally Posted by ToningtonView Post

Well, first of all it's toxic. If you dillute it to levels low enough to mitigate the risks of exposure, then I have to wonder how effective it could be as a treatment for a virus that hides within our own cells. There's no evidence for any claim that it cures AIDS.

Are there any safe levels of toxins like Chlorine and Fluoride that the body can handle and what exactly are the health benefits?

We are constantly being exposed to and ingesting toxins. There will never be tests done on food grade peroxide because there is no money in it. Thousands of people die every year from pharmaceutical drugs. Most of those drugs are toxic to the human body and cause all sorts of dangerous side effects. Why are you getting all up in arms about peroxide?
 
Tonington
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Quote: Originally Posted by CliffyView Post

Are there any safe levels of toxins like Chlorine and Fluoride that the body can handle and what exactly are the health benefits?

Yes. For fluoride the benefit is reduced dental caries. For chlorine the benefit is disinfected drinking water.

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There will never be tests done on food grade peroxide because there is no money in it. Thousands of people die every year from pharmaceutical drugs. Most of those drugs are toxic to the human body and cause all sorts of dangerous side effects. Why are you getting all up in arms about peroxide?

I'm up in arms about untested claims. I know that hydrogen peroxide is an effective treatment for all sorts of things, it's used in animal health against parasites, and it's sold by pharmaceuticals like the company I work for.

But HIV resides inside the cells responsible for immune function. How does the peroxide get in there and kill the virus without killing the cells in the rest of our tissues before it gets there? Telling people they can cure their AIDS with unproven treatments which are also toxic is unethical and potentially very dangerous.
 
mentalfloss
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My god, if they're funding the fundamentalists that much, who knows how much they're paying the warming alarmists !!
 
Bar Sinister
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It's not hard to figure out where these studies are coming from given the number of bogus health remedies being touted by advocates of quack medicine. It is unfortunate that the only way to prove quack medicine doesn't work is to study the supposed cures scientifically and then alert the public to the fact that most if not all alternative medicine is little more than unscientific hype.
 
JLM
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Quote: Originally Posted by Bar SinisterView Post

It's not hard to figure out where these studies are coming from given the number of bogus health remedies being touted by advocates of quack medicine. It is unfortunate that the only way to prove quack medicine doesn't work is to study the supposed cures scientifically and then alert the public to the fact that most if not all alternative medicine is little more than unscientific hype.

I think a lot of "quack" medicine gets credibility which more properly belongs to the "mind over matter" phenomenum.
 
Cliffy
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Quote: Originally Posted by Bar SinisterView Post

It's not hard to figure out where these studies are coming from given the number of bogus health remedies being touted by advocates of quack medicine. It is unfortunate that the only way to prove quack medicine doesn't work is to study the supposed cures scientifically and then alert the public to the fact that most if not all alternative medicine is little more than unscientific hype.

What are we discussing here, pharmaceutical quackery or natural remedy quackery or both? How many die each year from pharmaceuticals and how many from natural remedies? Quacks are everywhere in every school of medicine. It is human nature.
 
In Between Man
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Jesus Christ heals AIDS:

Sheik Mohammed Amen Healing AIDS and HIV - CBNcom - YouTube



Believe!
 
Cliffy
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Quote: Originally Posted by In Between ManView Post

Jesus Christ heals AIDS:

Believe!

Belief cures AIDS. Faith cures AIDS. A will to live cures AIDS. Pharmaceuticals kill AIDS victims.
 
Corduroy
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I wanna see God restore a lost limb.
 
Cliffy
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I wanna see God restore a lost limb.

It can't but theoretically you could for yourself.
 
Tonington
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Quote: Originally Posted by CliffyView Post

Belief cures AIDS. Faith cures AIDS. A will to live cures AIDS. Pharmaceuticals kill AIDS victims.

If you take hydrogen peroxide for an AIDS treatment, then it's a pharmaceutical...any chemical substance people use for treating a disease is called a pharmaceutical. AIDS kills more AIDS patients than the pharmaceuticals used to treat AIDS do. It's all about weighing risks. Cancer therapies like chemo are toxic too, but they work in some cases. Again, the risks have to be weighed.
 
Cliffy
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Quote: Originally Posted by ToningtonView Post

If you take hydrogen peroxide for an AIDS treatment, then it's a pharmaceutical...any chemical substance people use for treating a disease is called a pharmaceutical. AIDS kills more AIDS patients than the pharmaceuticals used to treat AIDS do. It's all about weighing risks. Cancer therapies like chemo are toxic too, but they work in some cases. Again, the risks have to be weighed.

Semantics. You know I wa referring to toxic drugs issued by doctors and pushed by pharmaceutical companies.
Hash oil cures cancer without side effects or poisoning the body. Chemo is barbaric and sadistic and there is no excuse for its continued use except there is a hell of a lot of money to be made.
 
Tonington
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Quote: Originally Posted by CliffyView Post

Semantics.

Not really, anything you put in your body that can effect changes can potentially cause harm as well. It doesn't matter if it's an herb extract, or a synthesized chemical found in herbs.

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Hash oil cures cancer without side effects or poisoning the body.

No side effects? BS. It looks to have very favourable properties. But if it can kill cancer, it's not going to be without side effects. That's pure grade bolonium.

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Chemo is barbaric and sadistic and there is no excuse for its continued use except there is a hell of a lot of money to be made.

No excuse? That's your value judgement. Don't be pushing your values onto others.
 
Bar Sinister
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Quote: Originally Posted by CliffyView Post

Semantics. You know I wa referring to toxic drugs issued by doctors and pushed by pharmaceutical companies.
Hash oil cures cancer without side effects or poisoning the body. Chemo is barbaric and sadistic and there is no excuse for its continued use except there is a hell of a lot of money to be made.

Hash oil cures cancer? Now you are really pushing the credibility envelope. I'm guessing that there are a lot of hash oil users whose death rates from cancer are identical to those of the general population.
 
JLM
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Quote: Originally Posted by CliffyView Post

Semantics. You know I wa referring to toxic drugs issued by doctors and pushed by pharmaceutical companies.
Hash oil cures cancer without side effects or poisoning the body. Chemo is barbaric and sadistic and there is no excuse for its continued use except there is a hell of a lot of money to be made.

I think I'd take me chances with Chemo over Hash oil!
Do any credible doctors prescribe hash oil?
 
damngrumpy
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Its nice to see that after a hundred years of denouncing them the snake oil salesmen
are alive and well. They prey on gullible people who believe in miracles, conspiracies
and that Obama was not born in America, what other proof do you people need.
Jesus is coming back everyone should just look busy.
 
petros
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Quote: Originally Posted by JLMView Post

I think I'd take me chances with Chemo over Hash oil!
Do any credible doctors prescribe hash oil?

Yes.
 
damngrumpy
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There will be long lineups for hash oil now you do realize that
 
JLM
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Quote: Originally Posted by damngrumpyView Post

There will be long lineups for hash oil now you do realize that

I think any "curing" hash oil does has more to do with "mind over matter" or "self fulfilling propesy".................and if so why not just mix up some flour and water?
 
Cliffy
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Run From The Cure:

Run From The Cure The Rick Simpson Story Full Version - YouTube



And maybe you should look at this too: --

Cancer is finally cured in Canada but Big Pharma has no interest watch it till the end - YouTube

 
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Quote: Originally Posted by JLMView Post

I think any "curing" hash oil does has more to do with "mind over matter" or "self fulfilling propesy".................and if so why not just mix up some flour and water?

It'll repair you mind too.

A study at the -- proves that Marijuana actually stimulates brain cell growth.
THC (the active ingredient in marijuana) stimulates cell growth in regions of the brain associated with anxiety and depression, pointing the way for new treatments for these diseases, according to University of Saskatchewan medical research published today in The Journal of Clinical Investigation

--, an associate professor in the U of S neuropsychiatry research unit, led the team that tested the effects of THC, the compound responsible for the high experienced by recreational users.

The team found that rats treated with THC on a regular basis showed neurogenesis — the growth of new brain cells in the hippocampus. This region of the brain is associated with learning and memory, as well as anxiety and depression.
The effect is the opposite of most legal and illicit drugs such as alcohol, nicotine, heroin, and cocaine.

“Most ‘drugs of abuse suppress neurogenesis,” Zhang says. “Only marijuana promotes neurogenesis.”
Current theory states that depression may be sparked when too few new brain cells are grown in the hippocampus. It is unclear whether anxiety is part of this process, but if true, THC could offer a treatment for both mood disorders by stimulating the growth of new brain cells.

“This is a very potent cannabinoid oil,” Zhang says. “It’s not something that would be available on the street.”
Marijuana has been used for recreational and medicinal purposes for centuries, evoking public interest and controversy along the way. As a medicine, the plant is used to ease pain in multiple sclerosis patients, combat nausea in cancer patients, and stimulate appetite in people afflicted with AIDS. It has also been used to treat epilepsy and stroke.

Zhang’s work is the latest product of the --, a multidisciplinary effort by researchers from the Colleges of Arts and Science, Engineering, Kinesiology, Medicine, Pharmacy and Nutrition, and Veterinary Medicine. The group collaborates to study the function of neural systems, from nerves to brain, in living organisms. In particular, they look at how these systems change over time with experience.

Zhang’s research is supported by a grant from the Canadian Institutes of Health Research (CIHR), as well as a CIHR New Investigator Award. The Saskatchewan Health Research Foundation provided funding support to establish the Neural Systems and Plasticity Research Group, as well as post-doctoral fellowship awards to research team members Wen Jiang and Shao-Ping Ji.
 
china
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Quote: Originally Posted by ToningtonView Post

And then die from an embolism, for only pennies a day! It's highly toxic. It exists in your body inside cells (phagocytes) which ingest pathogens and produce the radical oxygen species in respiratory bursts, and is kept compartmentalized because it's toxic both to invaders and the phagocyte, what do you think would happen if you injected or drank this stuff? It burns...for pennies a day.

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what do you think would happen if you injected or drank this stuff?

....if used the proper peroxide (the 35% food grade) and the right mixture ( up to 10 drops of 35% food grade Hyd.Peroxide in 1oz.distilled water ) your body be great.

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Last edited by china; Dec 18th, 2011 at 10:01 AM..
 
darkbeaver
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Quote: Originally Posted by JLMView Post

I think any "curing" hash oil does has more to do with "mind over matter" or "self fulfilling propesy".................and if so why not just mix up some flour and water?

You are on the right track I believe. You're just going in the wrong direction. In the business of " mind over matter" we are all very much influenced by market forces, big pharma is not the least of the mind frauds. Cannabis is very powerful medicine. That's exactly why it is not legal and that is the only reason it is not legal. No disease fitting the description of AIDS has ever been isolated. Guess where the money goes.

Have you been working out China?
Last edited by darkbeaver; Dec 18th, 2011 at 10:03 AM..
 

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