Distant prayer does not cure AIDS...

Distant prayer does not cure AIDS...

Tonington

#31

Re: Distant prayer does not cure AIDS...

Dec 18th, 2011

Quote: Originally Posted by darkbeaver

No disease fitting the description of AIDS has ever been isolated.

Is there anything conspiratorial that you don't swallow and accept blindly?

This is a load of crap. By the way, humans aren't the only species that develop AIDS, the Lentivirus genus of viruses has hosts across many Mammalian orders, including Primate and Carnivora. Here, read about a few of them:
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Quote: Originally Posted by china

....if used the proper peroxide (the 35% food grade) and the right mixture ( up to 10 drops of 35% food grade Hyd.Peroxide in 1oz.distilled water ) your body be great.

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This says absolutely nothing about the efficacy of your claim.

petros

#32

Re: Distant prayer does not cure AIDS...

Dec 18th, 2011

Ozone treatment is successful for many maladies.

Tonington

#33

Re: Distant prayer does not cure AIDS...

Dec 18th, 2011

Quote: Originally Posted by petros

Ozone treatment is successful for many maladies.

Not for AIDS:
The use of ozone-treated blood in the therapy of HIV in... [AIDS. 1991] - PubMed - NCBI

There are plenty of treatments that work In vitro; if everything that worked in the petri dish worked in live animals and organisms, there would be very little disease left on the planet.

MHz

#34

Re: Distant prayer does not cure AIDS...

Dec 18th, 2011

Quote: Originally Posted by JLM

I think any "curing" hash oil does has more to do with "mind over matter" or "self fulfilling propesy".................and if so why not just mix up some flour and water?

Why not lace the baking flour with opium, at least everybody will say 'yummy' when getting the news that the only food available is a sandwich.

darkbeaver

#35

Re: Distant prayer does not cure AIDS...

Dec 18th, 2011

Quote: Originally Posted by Tonington

Is there anything conspiratorial that you don't swallow and accept blindly?

Well yes I imagine there's a great many phoney things I haven't heard of yet.

Tonington

#36

Re: Distant prayer does not cure AIDS...

Dec 18th, 2011

Quote: Originally Posted by darkbeaver

Well yes I imagine there's a great many phoney things I haven't heard of yet.

So you will accept them blindly when you are made aware. Got it.

china

#37

Re: Distant prayer does not cure AIDS...

Dec 18th, 2011

Quote: Originally Posted by Tonington

Is there anything conspiratorial that you don't swallow and accept blindly?

This is a load of crap. By the way, humans aren't the only species that develop AIDS, the Lentivirus genus of viruses has hosts across many Mammalian orders, including Primate and Carnivora. Here, read about a few of them:
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This says absolutely nothing about the efficacy of your claim.

Tonington

Quote: Originally Posted by china

....if used the proper peroxide (the 35% food grade) and the right mixture ( up to 10 drops of 35% food grade Hyd.Peroxide in 1oz.distilled water ) your body be great.

This says absolutely nothing about the efficacy of your claim.[/QUOTE]

Tell this Tonington to the millions in the world who are using this system as a preventive medicine for almost hundred ys. Personally I have consumed H 2020 orally for over two years .I am way over 60ys.old but feel and look as in 40's. You have a computer Tonington , why don't you investigate?

eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

Dexter Sinister

#38

Re: Distant prayer does not cure AIDS...

Dec 18th, 2011

There is no evidence.

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china

#39

Re: Distant prayer does not cure AIDS...

Dec 18th, 2011

Quote: Originally Posted by Dexter Sinister

There is no evidence.

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Hi Dexter Sinister ,Merry Christmas my friend.

i HAVE A LAP TOP AND i WENT INVESTIGATING .
This is what I found in less than a minute :

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We Have Bought And Tried It.The Truth Will Shock You!
oneminutecure.info

taxslave

#40

Re: Distant prayer does not cure AIDS...

Dec 18th, 2011

Quote: Originally Posted by Corduroy

I wanna see God restore a lost limb.

I just want to see god. find out what all the fuss is about.

gerryh

#41

Re: Distant prayer does not cure AIDS...

Dec 18th, 2011

Quote: Originally Posted by china

Hi Dexter Sinister ,Merry Christmas my friend.

i HAVE A LAP TOP AND i WENT INVESTIGATING .
This is what I found in less than a minute :

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We Have Bought And Tried It.The Truth Will Shock You!
oneminutecure.info

roflmfao.... well there ya go guys. The truth has been told, no need to worry any more.

taxslave

#42

Re: Distant prayer does not cure AIDS...

Dec 18th, 2011

Quote: Originally Posted by JLM

I think I'd take me chances with Chemo over Hash oil!
Do any credible doctors prescribe hash oil?

Define creditable doctors. To me A Naturopath is a creditable doctor while a pill pusher is just a quack salesman for Big Pharma.
At least with hash oil you would die happy rather than in pain like with chemo.

JLM

#43

Re: Distant prayer does not cure AIDS...

Dec 18th, 2011

Quote: Originally Posted by taxslave

Define creditable doctors. To me A Naturopath is a creditable doctor while a pill pusher is just a quack salesman for Big Pharma.
At least with hash oil you would die happy rather than in pain like with chemo.

One example of a credible doctor you may have heard of is Graham White in Parksville, he'd give me a prescription and tell me to hang on to it for two or three days before filling it and I would likely find I didn't need it. Not sure if he knew what he was talking about or if it was just my faith, but that was almost always the case.

Cliffy

#44

Re: Distant prayer does not cure AIDS...

Dec 18th, 2011

Has anybody watched the film Run From the Cure? It says specifically that smoking any marijuana product is next to useless. You apply a tiny drop of oil to the gums twice a day. You cannot get high from it. In the case of skin cancer, it is applied externally to the affected area. The only happy it will make you is when you don't have cancer anymore and you did not have to go through the torture of chemo.

Tonington

#45

Re: Distant prayer does not cure AIDS...

Dec 18th, 2011

Quote: Originally Posted by china

Tell this Tonington to the millions in the world who are using this system as a preventive medicine for almost hundred ys.

So? It's not a cure-all, there is no such thing.

Quote:

Personally I have consumed H 2020 orally for over two years .

Do you have or were you ever diagnosed as having AIDS?

Quote:

You have a computer Tonington , why don't you investigate?

I have. There's no evidence of In vivo efficacy for treating AIDS, not with hydrogen peroxide, and not with ozone. As I said earlier, if all In vitro successes translated to efficacious treatments and therapies, then there would be very little disease left in the world. That's not the case because getting the compound of interest into the correct tissues at the correct dose to mitigate the etiological cause of disease is not nearly as simple as putting virus in a culture, and destroying it with that compound. Biological systems are very complex.

china

#46

Re: Distant prayer does not cure AIDS...

Dec 18th, 2011

Tonington;

Quote:

It's not a cure-all, there is no such thing.
Do you have or were you ever diagnosed as having AIDS?

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Although used by an estimated ten million patients in Europe since the early 1960's, the therapeutic use of medical ozone and hydrogen peroxide, technically known as "bio-oxidative therapies", is still largely a mystery to Americans.....Canadians too.....

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--hydrogen-peroxide/ozone-hydrogenp..

Last edited by china; Dec 18th, 2011 at 08:52 PM..

Tonington

#47

Re: Distant prayer does not cure AIDS...

Dec 18th, 2011

Quote: Originally Posted by china's link

Despite the fact that over ten million patients (including over a thousand AIDS patients) have received ozone therapy in Europe, and that reliable data on the use of ozone and hydrogen peroxide is supported by hundreds of scientific articles and clinical studies, the Food and Drug Administration still maintains that bio-oxidative therapies like ozone have not been proven either safe or effective.

Funny, they didn't reference a single scientific article, not one peer-reviewed article, even from Europe where this treatment is allegedly mainstream.

My father and mother taught me when I was a kid that just because it's on TV doesn't mean it's true. The same is true for the internet. Dig deeper.

MHz

#48

Re: Distant prayer does not cure AIDS...

Dec 18th, 2011

If it can't cure death from old age it is only a band-aid for a skinned knee when a runaway steamroller is only a few away, ................... even if it did work

china

#49

Re: Distant prayer does not cure AIDS...

Dec 18th, 2011

Quote: Originally Posted by MHz

If it can't cure death from old age it is only a band-aid for a skinned knee when a runaway steamroller is only a few away, ................... even if it did work

--hydrogen-peroxide/ozone-hydrogenp..

MHz

#50

Re: Distant prayer does not cure AIDS...

Dec 18th, 2011

So you want the 'steam-engine' to be running on 'rocket fuel'? That would only make the bonding of metal and flesh, metal being considered to be the 'winner'.

On the other hand getting oxygen into the blood if a rain forest is not available, the 3% hydrogen peroxide that is available in the corner store can be given in a hospital under a Dr.'s order. Combine that with enough 'soda-water you mix and test ' to bring the bodies (urine or saliva) ph up to 7.6 and that is supposed to help in the prevention of such things as cancer from even starting. The American Cancer Society is even promoting oxygen therapy as a way to fight the effects of chemo. If the $B chemo industry wasn't 'treatment standard' ther might even be no need for chemo to begin with. Both 'treatments' add up to a few dollars over the lifetime of a person. That frees up medical money to train more people in the treatment of fractures and other such things as are taken care of in the emergency wards, now an ambulance could be parked on the streets and the medics could set bones and write some prescriptions and maybe even do an IV drip of 3% hydrogen peroxide for the ones that have a note saying the oxygen level should be kept at a slight elevated level during flue season if the disease lasts more than 5 days with no signs of going away. A sample of that strain might be worth keeping should it start killing people.
The way the 99% of the world can do this is by using an inhalation directly to the lungs in the form of a mist. This can be as simple a device such as a nasal sprayer to an air-brush using a fine tip and using O2 as the propellent. Something the public can do while waiting for official help to arrive. It has to be kept away from the ones in the 3rd world because if a prevention that was worth pennies in a lifetime was withheld so a few people called the 1% could profit billions taken from those who were allowed to get the disease in the first place and then undergo expensive and painful treatments as the 'cure'.

The story is the same for MMS and for Phage Medicine, pennies compared to the trillions spent needlessly today.

Bar Sinister

#51

Re: Distant prayer does not cure AIDS...

Dec 18th, 2011

Quote: Originally Posted by petros

It'll repair you mind too.
A study at the University of Saskatchewan in Canada proves that Marijuana actually stimulates brain cell growth.
THC (the active ingredient in marijuana) stimulates cell growth in regions of the brain associated with anxiety and depression, pointing the way for new treatments for these diseases, according to University of Saskatchewan medical research published today in The Journal of Clinical Investigation
Xia Zhang, an associate professor in the U of S neuropsychiatry research unit, led the team that tested the effects of THC, the compound responsible for the high experienced by recreational users.
The team found that rats treated with THC on a regular basis showed neurogenesis — the growth of new brain cells in the hippocampus. This region of the brain is associated with learning and memory, as well as anxiety and depression.
The effect is the opposite of most legal and illicit drugs such as alcohol, nicotine, heroin, and cocaine.

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Very good, Petros, but I note that there is nothing in the quote that says anything about a cancer cure.

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