May 28th, 2006, 09:38 AM
What do you think?
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The entire article at http://www.cbc.ca/manitoba/story/mb-...-20060526.html
The province is stepping up efforts to deter prostitution in the streets of Winnipeg, launching a new plan aimed to balance punishment and education.
The action plan introduces a combination of tougher penalties for the customers of prostitutes and more help for women who want to get off the streets.
"What's called the world's oldest profession should also be called the world's oldest oppression," said Attorney General Gord Mackintosh Thursday as he launched the new strategy.
Johns can now face drivers' licence suspensions if they're convicted of prostitution-related offences. Drivers would lose their licence for one year after a first conviction; subsequent convictions within a decade could result in licences being yanked for two years.
Manitoba currently can seize vehicles owned by people convicted of prostitution offences, but that can't happen if the john is driving someone else's vehicle.
The action plan introduces a combination of tougher penalties for the customers of prostitutes and more help for women who want to get off the streets.
"What's called the world's oldest profession should also be called the world's oldest oppression," said Attorney General Gord Mackintosh Thursday as he launched the new strategy.
Johns can now face drivers' licence suspensions if they're convicted of prostitution-related offences. Drivers would lose their licence for one year after a first conviction; subsequent convictions within a decade could result in licences being yanked for two years.
Manitoba currently can seize vehicles owned by people convicted of prostitution offences, but that can't happen if the john is driving someone else's vehicle.
What do you think?
Chief Mogrifier
Posts: 8,795 
May 28th, 2006, 10:02 AM
I guess my biggest complaint,
would be about the exploitation of children. People who exploit children should be locked up for life. I would also lock up for life the johns who patronize child prostitutes. Take away the slimy market and the child sex trade would dissappear.
I guess my biggest complaint,
would be about the exploitation of children. People who exploit children should be locked up for life. I would also lock up for life the johns who patronize child prostitutes. Take away the slimy market and the child sex trade would dissappear.
Bright Spark
Posts: 310
Location: North Lauderdale, FL
Location: North Lauderdale, FL
May 28th, 2006, 04:52 PM
Wake the f up and decriminalize prostitution. It isn't going away, ever, and making it legal would stop the bad **** associated with it.
Who cares if someone wants to pay for sex and somone else wants to take money for it? Grow up and get your nose out of peoples sex lives.
Wake the f up and decriminalize prostitution. It isn't going away, ever, and making it legal would stop the bad **** associated with it.
Who cares if someone wants to pay for sex and somone else wants to take money for it? Grow up and get your nose out of peoples sex lives.
Chief Mogrifier
Posts: 8,795
May 28th, 2006, 05:48 PM
Quoting
You wake the f--- up. I sure as hell care if some slimebag is exploiting children. Prostitution is not a victimless crime if children are involved. Some of the ladies in the trade were brought in as children. If they want now to get out of the life, we should help. If you can't see that, you need help.
Wake the f up and decriminalize prostitution. It isn't going away, ever, and making it legal would stop the bad **** associated with it.
Who cares if someone wants to pay for sex and somone else wants to take money for it? Grow up and get your nose out of peoples sex lives.
Who cares if someone wants to pay for sex and somone else wants to take money for it? Grow up and get your nose out of peoples sex lives.
Bright Spark
Posts: 310
Location: North Lauderdale, FL
Location: North Lauderdale, FL
May 28th, 2006, 07:21 PM
F off yourself #juan. I'm not talking about not helping children and you know that. I'm talking about prostitution in general regarding people of adult age being given criminal records for acts that shouldn't be illegal.
F off yourself #juan. I'm not talking about not helping children and you know that. I'm talking about prostitution in general regarding people of adult age being given criminal records for acts that shouldn't be illegal.
Chief Mogrifier
Posts: 8,795
May 28th, 2006, 07:47 PM
I already stated my case against child exploitation and you know that. Don't tell me to f--- off again. This is not a request.
I threw your little "wake the f up" slur back at you. These forums don't need that either.
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thecdn
F off yourself #juan. I'm not talking about not helping children and you know that. I'm talking about prostitution in general regarding people of adult age being given criminal records for acts that shouldn't be illegal.
I already stated my case against child exploitation and you know that. Don't tell me to f--- off again. This is not a request.
I threw your little "wake the f up" slur back at you. These forums don't need that either.
Newbie
Posts: 44
Location: Paradise - Vancouver Island
Location: Paradise - Vancouver Island
May 29th, 2006, 04:35 PM
I think it's a novel approach. Most johns cruise the streets looking for prostitutes; withdrawing their licences has an element of poetic justice.
It's a fact that most adult prostitutes began sex work as children. The AG's comment that the world's oldest profession should also be called the world's oldest oppression makes the point well.
I think it's a novel approach. Most johns cruise the streets looking for prostitutes; withdrawing their licences has an element of poetic justice.
It's a fact that most adult prostitutes began sex work as children. The AG's comment that the world's oldest profession should also be called the world's oldest oppression makes the point well.
Ponderous Intellect
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Location: Surrey, British Columbia
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May 29th, 2006, 04:39 PM
I do think that the sex trade should be lawful, under very particular and safe circumstances. Obviously, this should not be the case where the exploitation of children is a factor, and steps should be taken and efforts made to ensure that this is not the case and to restrict this from happening. Persons are often thought to be "forced" into the trade, and to that end, we should ensure that those who do indeed decide to enter into this practice are protected and safe.
Every one in Canada, including our sex trade workers, are quite deserving of the protection of the rule of law. We should regulate the practice of prostitution to ensure that persons are engaged in this occupation, and to ensure that the negative practices often associated with prostitution continue to be unlawful, and enforced as such.
I do think that the sex trade should be lawful, under very particular and safe circumstances. Obviously, this should not be the case where the exploitation of children is a factor, and steps should be taken and efforts made to ensure that this is not the case and to restrict this from happening. Persons are often thought to be "forced" into the trade, and to that end, we should ensure that those who do indeed decide to enter into this practice are protected and safe.
Every one in Canada, including our sex trade workers, are quite deserving of the protection of the rule of law. We should regulate the practice of prostitution to ensure that persons are engaged in this occupation, and to ensure that the negative practices often associated with prostitution continue to be unlawful, and enforced as such.
Steven Hawking's Tutor
Posts: 4,995
Location: Florida, Hurricane Central
Location: Florida, Hurricane Central
May 29th, 2006, 06:41 PM
Prostitution should be legal.
Sex with children should not.
Its bizarre to me that, in the 21st century, we are regulating sexual behavior. If two consenting adults want to enter into a business transaction regarding sex, that's their business - not yours, not mine, not anyone else's.
Criminalizing prostitution is no different than criminalizing homosexuality.
Prostitution should be legal.
Sex with children should not.
Its bizarre to me that, in the 21st century, we are regulating sexual behavior. If two consenting adults want to enter into a business transaction regarding sex, that's their business - not yours, not mine, not anyone else's.
Criminalizing prostitution is no different than criminalizing homosexuality.
Running out of ranks
Posts: 8,366
May 29th, 2006, 08:13 PM
Quoting
I already stated my case against child exploitation and you know that. Don't tell me to f--- off again. This is not a request.
I threw your little "wake the f up" slur back at you. These forums don't need that either.
I don't believe this was directed at you Juan. It's a blanket statement to all who want to keep it illegal.
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thecdn
F off yourself #juan. I'm not talking about not helping children and you know that. I'm talking about prostitution in general regarding people of adult age being given criminal records for acts that shouldn't be illegal.
I already stated my case against child exploitation and you know that. Don't tell me to f--- off again. This is not a request.
I threw your little "wake the f up" slur back at you. These forums don't need that either.
Bright Spark
Posts: 310
Location: North Lauderdale, FL
Location: North Lauderdale, FL
May 30th, 2006, 07:15 AM
My comment that you've quoted above is of course related to the "You wake the f--- up." comment that you directed at me after quoting my post.
I hadn't realized that it was ok for moderators to make such comments but not the common folk. Now I understand.
Quoting
My post agreeing with Jays statement that mine was a blanket statement was referring to the "Wake the f up and decriminalize prostitution." comment in my post that was the third one on this thread. It was a general rant, quoting no one, about dealing with protitution. thecdn
"F off yourself #juan". is not an accident. I don't want to see it again. It is up to you.
"F off yourself #juan". is not an accident. I don't want to see it again. It is up to you.
My comment that you've quoted above is of course related to the "You wake the f--- up." comment that you directed at me after quoting my post.
I hadn't realized that it was ok for moderators to make such comments but not the common folk. Now I understand.
Bright Spark
Posts: 253
May 23rd, 2007, 05:21 AM
Since we live in a country that has sexual content on TV and the movies we are getting people to have appetite about sex.
People are having sex at a younger age and people who can’t have sex because of how they look would feel more comfortable going to a prostitute.
Legalized prostitution would give people more jobs.
Keep the sex workers healthy and gainfully employed.
They can get a good pension plan.
What do you think?
http://www.liberator.net/articles/prostitution.html
http://www.sexwork.com/coalition/whatcountrieslegal.html
http://www.fff.org/freedom/1293e.asp
Since we live in a country that has sexual content on TV and the movies we are getting people to have appetite about sex.
People are having sex at a younger age and people who can’t have sex because of how they look would feel more comfortable going to a prostitute.
Legalized prostitution would give people more jobs.
Keep the sex workers healthy and gainfully employed.
They can get a good pension plan.
What do you think?
http://www.liberator.net/articles/prostitution.html
http://www.sexwork.com/coalition/whatcountrieslegal.html
http://www.fff.org/freedom/1293e.asp
A modern nomad
Posts: 1,118
Location: Berlin, Germany
Location: Berlin, Germany
May 23rd, 2007, 06:34 AM
At the very least, changes to the prostitution laws are overdue. The Fraser report was released back in 1986 after extensive studies and consultations which showed how ineffective and contradictory the current laws are.
In Canada it is perfectly legal to buy sex and sell sex. In Canada it is illegal to buy or sell sex in a safe manner. The law sanctions the existence of a contact sex trade and then proceeds to strip its consumers and workers of all forms of safety and dignity.
They have had two decades to do something about it and have done nothing, that is the worrisome aspect.
At the very least, changes to the prostitution laws are overdue. The Fraser report was released back in 1986 after extensive studies and consultations which showed how ineffective and contradictory the current laws are.
In Canada it is perfectly legal to buy sex and sell sex. In Canada it is illegal to buy or sell sex in a safe manner. The law sanctions the existence of a contact sex trade and then proceeds to strip its consumers and workers of all forms of safety and dignity.
They have had two decades to do something about it and have done nothing, that is the worrisome aspect.
A modern nomad
Posts: 1,118
Location: Berlin, Germany
Location: Berlin, Germany
May 23rd, 2007, 07:17 AM
Furthermore, what about the male prostitutes? Also, why isn't a woman free to choose what to do with her sexuality? How are these prostitutes sex toys? They still have the choice to refuse clients. Except under these current laws where transactions must be rushed and the prostitute may make a bad call because she doesn't have time to ask questions.
That is a very narrow minded view to hold, especially as it discounts all the work done by pro-prostitution feminists around the world and ignores the plight of the male and trans-gendered prostitute. Calling these people sex toys and dehumanizing them in that way is far more denigrating than the choices of the workers and the clients.
Quoting Agimat
How about the disabled clients, like quadripeligics, who aren't interested in sex but want someone to talk to? How about these clients, who due to their disabilities or disfigurements are unable to attract a mate but feel the need for social intimacy?
omg what is the world coming too, when men still are unevolved and view women as sex toys
Furthermore, what about the male prostitutes? Also, why isn't a woman free to choose what to do with her sexuality? How are these prostitutes sex toys? They still have the choice to refuse clients. Except under these current laws where transactions must be rushed and the prostitute may make a bad call because she doesn't have time to ask questions.
That is a very narrow minded view to hold, especially as it discounts all the work done by pro-prostitution feminists around the world and ignores the plight of the male and trans-gendered prostitute. Calling these people sex toys and dehumanizing them in that way is far more denigrating than the choices of the workers and the clients.
