Bus beheader Vince Li poised to get more freedom

[spaminator]

Bus beheader Vince Li poised to get more freedom
By Dean Pritchard ,Winnipeg Sun
First posted: Monday, February 24, 2014 06:11 PM EST | Updated: Monday, February 24, 2014 06:36 PM EST
WINNIPEG — A psychiatrist has recommended Greyhound bus killer Vince Li be granted greater freedoms.
Dr. Steven Kremer made the recommendation at Li's annual hearing before the Manitoba Review Board on Monday.
Kremer recommended Li be moved to an unlocked ward at Selkirk Mental Health Centre and that he be allowed unescorted passes into Selkirk. He also recommended Li be allowed to visit Winnipeg under group supervision. Li had previously been allowed to visit the city under one-to-one supervision.
Kremer said Li has responded well to treatment and understands the importance of taking his medication, and is a low-risk to re-engage in violence.
The review board is expected to render its decision within the week.
Li has been held at Selkirk Mental Health Centre since June 2009 after he was found not criminally responsible for the stabbing and decapitation of Tim McLean, 22, on a Winnipeg-bound Greyhound bus just outside of Portage la Prairie, Man., in the summer of 2008.
Carol de Delley, McLean's mother, said she was not surprised by the recommendations. She said Li should never be allowed to go free as there is no guarantee he will continue to take his medications.
dean.pritchard@sunmedia.ca
Vince Li is escorted by sheriff officers on his way to a court appearance in Portage la Prairie in this August 5, 2008 file photo. (REUTERS/Fred Greenslade)

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Bus beheader Vince Li granted unsupervised trips
KRISTIN ANNABLE, QMI Agency
First posted: Thursday, February 27, 2014 04:50 PM EST | Updated: Thursday, February 27, 2014 08:52 PM EST
WINNIPEG — A psychiatrist has recommended Greyhound bus killer Vince Li be granted greater freedoms.


Dr. Steven Kremer made the recommendation at Li's annual hearing before the Manitoba Review Board on Monday.


Kremer recommended Li be moved to an unlocked ward at Selkirk Mental Health Centre and that he be allowed unescorted passes into Selkirk. He also recommended Li be allowed to visit Winnipeg under group supervision. Li had previously been allowed to visit the city under one-to-one supervision.


Kremer said Li has responded well to treatment and understands the importance of taking his medication, and is a low-risk to re-engage in violence.


The review board is expected to render its decision within the week.


Li has been held at Selkirk Mental Health Centre since June 2009 after he was found not criminally responsible for the stabbing and decapitation of Tim McLean, 22, on a Winnipeg-bound Greyhound bus just outside of Portage la Prairie, Man., in the summer of 2008.


Carol de Delley, McLean's mother, said she was not surprised by the recommendations. She said Li should never be allowed to go free as there is no guarantee he will continue to take his medications.


dean.pritchard@sunmedia.ca
Vince Li is escorted by sheriff officers on his way to a court appearance in Portage la Prairie in this August 5, 2008 file photo. (REUTERS/Fred Greenslade)

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[shadowshiv]

I wonder what they will say when he decides he will stop taking his medication again. Because, you know, that worked out so well the last time. He should NOT be tasting freedom, soon or not.

 

[Cannuck]

Good to see he's doing better

 

[El Barto]

Like freeing his head from his body?
If only we were served the same crime we handed out ......

 

[Cannuck]

Like freeing his head from his body?
If only we were served the same crime we handed out ......

Do you consider mental illness a crime?

 

[petros]

many do.

 

[IdRatherBeSkiing]

Do you consider mental illness a crime?

The problem is he can be cured with the pills but once released there is nobody that can make him take them. And then he goes bonkers again. That is what happened BEFORE he butchered Tim McLean on that bus.

IMHO he should be tried for his crime (which he did commit -- butchering people on a bus and eating their genitals is not legal even in Manitoba at last check) and then sentenced to his term in a mental health facility where his release is his prison sentence or his cure whichever is later.

 

[Kreskin]

Hopefully he has his Class 5 license now.

 

[BornRuff]

The problem is he can be cured with the pills but once released there is nobody that can make him take them. And then he goes bonkers again. That is what happened BEFORE he butchered Tim McLean on that bus.

IMHO he should be tried for his crime (which he did commit -- butchering people on a bus and eating their genitals is not legal even in Manitoba at last check) and then sentenced to his term in a mental health facility where his release is his prison sentence or his cure whichever is later.

Well, they can impose a community treatment order. That would compel him to follow the treatment plan set out for him and check in doctors regularly. If he does not follow the plan or does not show up at appointments, he can be put back into a hospital.

 

[IdRatherBeSkiing]

Well, they can impose a community treatment order. That would compel him to follow the treatment plan set out for him and check in doctors regularly. If he does not follow the plan or does not show up at appointments, he can be put back into a hospital.

So much trust in the system. Would you take a seat next to him on a bus?

 

[BornRuff]

So much trust in the system. Would you take a seat next to him on a bus?

Did I ever claim I thought this was right? I simply corrected you point about not being able to make him take his meds.

 

[IdRatherBeSkiing]

Did I ever claim I thought this was right? I simply corrected you point about not being able to make him take his meds.

I don't for a minute believe this happens or can be made to happen. I accept that in the purest technical terms it is possible but not in any practical term.

 

[BornRuff]

I don't for a minute believe this happens or can be made to happen. I accept that in the purest technical terms it is possible but not in any practical term.

Why do you think that?

 

[Cannuck]

Do you consider mental illness a crime?

The problem is he can be cured with the pills but once released there is nobody that can make him take them. And then he goes bonkers again. That is what happened BEFORE he butchered Tim McLean on that bus.

IMHO he should be tried for his crime (which he did commit -- butchering people on a bus and eating their genitals is not legal even in Manitoba at last check) and then sentenced to his term in a mental health facility where his release is his prison sentence or his cure whichever is later.

I'll take that as a yes.

 

[taxslave]

What an incredibly stupid idea. Makes an absolute joke of justice in Canada.

 

[Cannuck]

What an incredibly stupid idea. Makes an absolute joke of justice in Canada.

The Canadian justice system was already a joke but not because of this. I can't believe people want to treat the mentally ill like criminals. Pathetic is the first word that comes to mind.

 

[taxslave]

The Canadian justice system was already a joke but not because of this. I can't believe people want to treat the mentally ill like criminals. Pathetic is the first word that comes to mind.

I agree. But he did murder someone for no reason therefore since we can't hang the bast ard he needs to be locked up for a long time to prevent a repeat performance.

 

[Sal]

mentally ill is one thing, criminally insane without his drugs, well that goes into a whole different realm.

 

[gholamhossein]

hi you all

 

[shadowshiv]

hi you all

I haven't been able to determine (judging your previous Moderated post in this exact thread) yet if you are just a spammer or if you truly don't know english. That being said, trying to introduce yourself in a thread that is about a man who viciously murdered someone in a horrifying manner is not a cool thing to do.