Physical &psychological security .

[china]

One cannot live without security, that is the very first, primary animal demand, that there be physical security. One must have a house, food and clothing. But the psychological way in which we use this necessity for security brings about chaos within and without. The psyche, which is the very structure of thought, also wants to be secure inwardly, in all its relationships. Then the trouble begins. There must be physical security for everybody, not only for the few; but that physical security for everybody is denied when psychological security is sought through nations, through religions, through the family.



Your thought .

 

[talloola]

forget the nation situation, out of one's control, so don't
worry about it. don't be tied up with religion, then one
has a free mind for thinking as an individual, and do
everything you can to fix family problems, if that is
impossible, move on and know you tried your best, and
be secure with those thoughts and feelings.

 

[Dexter Sinister]

I don't think it's a coincidence that the United States has by far the highest level of religious observance and the weakest social security system of any modern western nation.

 

[Cliffy]

Alan Watts wrote The Wisdom of Insecurity. The basic premise is that there can be no security, that change is the only constant. I liken security to trying to stand in a flowing stream. If you have ever tried it, you know it is impossible. The current washes the gravel out from under you and you fall and get washed downstream. Wisdom is relaxing and flowing with the stream instead of fighting against it. People who struggle may become exhausted and drown. Life is a free flow of energy. If you learn to flow with it, to cease struggling, it will carry you along without effort.

 

[AnnaG]

Just what is psychological security? The ability to keep from going insane? The ability to protect one's mind from going off to lalaland?
I am secure in the thought that my family and friends love me and love doing stuff for me as much as I love them and love doing stuff for them. Anything else is irrelevant.

 

[china]

Dexter Sinister

15 hours ago

I don't think it's a coincidence that the United States has by far the highest level of religious observance and the weakest social security system of any modern western nation.

Very good observation .

 

[darkbeaver]

Just what is psychological security? The ability to keep from going insane? The ability to protect one's mind from going off to lalaland?
I am secure in the thought that my family and friends love me and love doing stuff for me as much as I love them and love doing stuff for them. Anything else is irrelevant.

Psychological security is not dependent on sanity. Many insane people are secure in thier delusions aren't they?

 

[darkbeaver]

I know I am, it's nice and fluffy and soft here with the bunnies.

 

[china]

Does thought fundamentally, basically, give security, psychologically? Thought has its place; but when thought assumes that it can bring about psychological security then it is living in illusion. Thought wanting ultimate security has created a thing called god; and humanity clings to that idea. Thought can create every kind of romantic illusion. And when the mind, psychologically, seeks security in the dogma of the Church, or some other dogmatic assertion, or whatever it is, it is seeking security in the structure of thought.
Thought is the response of experience and knowledge, stored up in the brain as memory; that response is therefore always moving from the past. Now, is there security in the past?

 

[darkbeaver]

Happy year China, hows it goin?

 

[darkbeaver]

Sometimes a nice delusion is absolutely necessary for the organisms survival I guess. If you have just lost an arm in your washing machine I should imagine the first instinct of the mind would be to reassemble the arm like new, depending on your battery size and available BTUs any person should just be able to function just fine on the contrived arm untill such time that it has regenerated following the pattern. A diet of onions garlic and granberries aids greatly in the new suspension of the manufactured arm in the corporeal medium, I've heard it said.

 

[AnnaG]

Psychological security is not dependent on sanity.

Thanks for not answering my question. :roll: I still don't know what China's idea of psychological security is.

Many insane people are secure in thier delusions aren't they?

lol You should know about that more than I. lol

 

[AnnaG]

Sometimes a nice delusion is absolutely necessary for the organisms survival I guess. If you have just lost an arm in your washing machine I should imagine the first instinct of the mind would be to reassemble the arm like new, depending on your battery size and available BTUs any person should just be able to function just fine on the contrived arm untill such time that it has regenerated following the pattern. A diet of onions garlic and granberries aids greatly in the new suspension of the manufactured arm in the corporeal medium, I've heard it said.

8OYou add opium to your wacky tobbacky, don't you?

 

[AnnaG]

Whatever China's idea of psychological security is, here's a decent description of the psychology of security:

The Psychology of Security

 

[Kreskin]

I know I am, it's nice and fluffy and soft here with the bunnies.

That's not what one of your personalities told me.

 

[china]

AnnaG

I still don't know what China's idea of psychological security is.

A bowl of rice for tomorrow .

 

[china]

Whatever China's idea of psychological security is, here's a decent description of the psychology of security:

OK , 2 big bowls of rice for today & tomorrow .

 

[Cliffy]

...........furthermore, an inability to read and understand my posts ; no problem .

Perhaps it is your style that makes it difficult for some to grasp what you are trying to get across. That is not a criticism, just an observation.

 

[china]

Cliffy ,

Perhaps it is your style that makes it difficult for some to grasp what you are trying to get across. That is not a criticism, just an observatio

Perhaps Cliffy , Let's see...,

This ia a beginning of my post ....."Does thought fundamentally, basically, give security, psychologically? Thought has its place; but when thought assumes that it can bring about psychological security then it is living in illusion." .......is this so hard to understand ?, don't think so .

 

[darkbeaver]

That's not what one of your personalities told me.

None of them can be trusted.