Quote: Originally Posted by china
A meditation is a listening process of self-knowing in which there is no outer or inner compulsion, no fear, no judgment, no conflict, and as an awareness in the movement of action of everything that we do, so that each one may be a light unto himself .
I am alone. I sit completely still. I am quiet. I watch my thoughts and all the feelings that go with them. As I watch, my mind slows down.
I find serenity. I search for what is behind my thoughts and feelings, and what is behind that, and even behind that. There is peace.
I listen. I hear music. The notes are of a high pitch. Listening to this music gives me the feeling of watching the stars on a clear night. I call it ‘universal music’. There is a flow of energy. I relax into it.
My mind calls me and I go back into thought. I get lost in thought. I wake up to this and ask myself, “Is this what I want to do now?”
Again I watch my mind and its wanderings, and the whole process of awareness and listening is repeated. I see light. Some of this light is daylight coming through my eyelids, but I know from experience that some of it is there in total darkness. I call it ‘universal light’.
Again there is thought. I visualise the sun radiating golden and white light. I am bathed in this light. I visualise the valley and each member of the community in this light.
There is thought again as I think of the problems we have together.
Insight into some of our difficulties comes to me. I start being creative, but the cultivation of my creativity must wait. It is difficult to wait, as I have to wait until others are ready. I wait.
I look and see beauty, two beautiful, transcendent eyes. I look into those eyes. The flow of energy increases. I am lost in adoration. I sense a presence. It is very real. It is alive and close to me, very close. We are one.
I am back again in thought, but the feeling of love remains. I am glowing with good vibrations. Creativity calls. I must return to the world of activity. May the blessing I feel stay with me, and may I be able to share it with others.
Fair enough..... but how do you classify someone who experiences this just about all the time, everyday of their lives without meditation being required?
I think that is where my problem lies with meditation..... as much of the above in which you described sounds pretty much like what I experience everyday without having to step into a different frame of mind.
Sure I'll have my pissy days, everybody does, but overall with my life and the way everything is surrounding me, I have been at peace since my first spiritual journey I have taken about 4-5 years ago. I have been brought back closer to the perspective I used to have as a child.
As a child, I could see life in everything. I could see reactions in trees, rocks shifting and moving between one another, I could see what people were thinking by reading the lines on their faces and the eyes they keep hidden, the unknown pressence within the forests surrounding my home as a child, the pressence within the basement of my house...... the pressence that was there when my house burned down around me...... and the lack of pressence afterwards..... The bat that somehow got into our house and began living in my closet, the Visions of what is to come, what has come and so on. I would have dreams one night, which followed right along with what occured the following day.... etc.
Much of this was lost and forgotten, much like it is for probably everybody else when their parents tell them to abandon their imagination and start to grow up. Only until my spiritual journey I accidentally (yet on purpose at the same time) brought myself apon, did I start to re-tap into many of these parts of the mind that we've all been told to ignore as simple childish fantasy / imagination. Since then, I have begun to try my best in merging many of those processes back into my life. It all might have been childish fantasy as a kid, simply because you were a kid and didn't understand much of the world around you. As an adult, tapping into one's imagination can help expand the mind beyond what most understand today...... Imagination can be used for foolishness like what it seemed we used it for as a child, but as an adult, if used properly, you can see much more of the universe then you may have ever thought possible.
At present, because of this re-tapping, I have a much better understanding of my purpose on this planet, the reason why we are all here, the reason why we all die, and the explinations as to why we are born in the first place (Not to mention what's after the currently known)
Meditation maybe a great thing for many in the world and perhaps would be something very useful some of our politicians should invest some time into..... but as for me, and at present, I can not become more in peace with my life then I currently am.
So once again..... how do you classify someone who experiences much of the above that you described without meditating?
What if I can feel the atoms within the wind that blows between my fingers? What if I can see the life and physical movement of the bark on a random tree? What if I see the personality in the face of a caterpillar? What if I have never been attacked by any animal for well over 20 years and most tend to leech onto me more then they do with their own owners?
How do I classify someone like that?
I personally feel that everything I have described above, every single one of us can make happen with what we're already given when we were born.
Perhaps my approach of seeking connection back with imagination, is the same approach you are referring to with meditation in regards to "Forgetting everything you have been taught"
~ Much of what we are taught is usually something to replace the gaps left by our imagination we've been taught to abandon in the first place.
But that doesn't mean we should abandon all of what we have been taught, as it is all important...... rather, one should attempt to merge it all back together in a manner which best suits ourselves, not those around us.
I'll leave it at that for now.
Last edited by Praxius; Jan 5th, 2009 at 01:43 PM..