Intelligence (from Dion thread)

Lineman

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Does it show more intelligence to ask questions or to answer them?

I though this might generate some discussion (or not) as it had started to in another thread. Could be a chicken or egg delimma. Light and civil please.
 

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Does it show more intelligence to ask questions or to answer them?
BOTH the question or the answer can be smart or stupid .================================================

Most people are satisfied with a definition of what intelligence is. Either they say, "That is a good explanation", or they prefer their own explanation; and a mind that is satisfied with an explanation is very superficial, therefore it is not intelligent.You have begun to see that an intelligent mind is a mind which is not satisfied with explanations, with conclusions; nor is it a mind that believes, because belief is again another form of conclusion. An intelligent mind is an inquiring mind, a mind that is watching, learning,asking questions, studying. Which means what? That there is intelligence only when there is no fear, when you are willing to rebel , , to go against the whole social structure in order to find out what God is, or to discover the truth of anything .Intelligence is not knowledge . If you could read all the books in the world it would not give you intelligence. Intelligence is something very subtle; it has no anchorage. it comes into being only when you understand the total process of the mind - not the mind according to some philosopher or teacher, but your own mind . Your mind is the result of all humanity, and when you understand it you don't have to study a single book, because the mind contains the whole knowledge of the past. So intelligence comes into being with the understanding of yourself; and you can understand yourself only in relation to the world of people, things and ideas. Intelligence is not something that you can acquire, like learning; it arises with great revolt, that is, when there is no fear - which means, really, when there is a sense of love. For when there is no fear, there is love.
 
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I've never really seen a stupid question (some very niave or leading ones, mind you) but there are so many stupid answers. Sometimes the wisest response is a simple "I don't know."
 

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Intelligence is not measured in ones ability to find answers. It is measured in ones ability to ask the questions.

i bet you tried to look up who said this and found that you could not find out who did how frustrating for you lol
 

Atlantia

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Does it show more intelligence to ask questions or to answer them?
100% depends on a question.
Intelligence is not supposed to be expressed; having or not having it will come up during the conversation by default no matter if you want it or not.
 

Lineman

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Ah, but isn't a question posed with the thought of receiving an answer. A question that is posed to do nothing but stump the questioned is nothing but a show of arrogance isn't it?
 

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Does it show more intelligence to ask questions or to answer them?
Put that way, it seems perfectly obvious to me it's the latter, though in thinking about a complex subject like intelligence that's overly simplistic. It doesn't take any particular intelligence to just ask questions, any damn fool can generate endless lists of questions, and lots of damn fools do. Finding answers, assuming the questions are both answerable and worth answering, is the hard part. But I also think it often takes a fair bit of intelligence to figure out which questions are answerable and/or worth answering. And of course it takes intelligence to ask an intelligent question.

I'm inclined to the view that intelligence is probably not measurable, in the sense that you can't meaningfully reduce it to a single number like an IQ. IQ scores are based on a rather complex mathematical technique called factor analysis that attempts to extract measures of one's skill at verbal, spatial, and mathematical tasks from a fairly large set of answers you provide to carefully crafted questions, then tries to combine them into a single number. I score well on IQ tests because I'm pretty good at certain tasks this culture, or at least the people in it who make up IQ tests, thinks are valuable. I outscore my wife by 20 points, mostly because she has no aptitude for mathematics, though it's clear to me from living with her for almost 30 years that her verbal and spatial skills are at least as good as mine. And her colour sense is infinitely superior. Our home would look, at best, boring, if I picked the paint and wallpaper. Needless to say, I don't, she does that, I just put the stuff on the walls.

Or put her in a room with a dozen strangers. She'll do much better than I will. In 3 hours she'll have the family history of everyone in the room and everybody will think she's a charming and delightful conversationalist, which of course she is, and she'll remember everything. Put her in a room with the same people a year later and she'll remember everyone's name, their spouses' names, their children's names, and will ask knowledgeable and pertinent questions about the events in their lives since she last spoke to them. I've seen her do it multiple times at staff Christmas parties. She knew more about the people I worked with than I did, and I saw them 5 days a week, she saw them once a year. No intelligence test I've ever seen can measure that skill, and for the kind of work she does it's extraordinarily valuable. There have been attempts lately to incorporate that kind of thing into intelligence testing, with the appearance of an idea called emotional intelligence, though I have no idea how successful it's been.

Intelligence seems to me to be one of those things about which people say things like, "I have no idea how to define it but I know it when I see it." Similarly, I'm sure most of us are pretty confident we can spot someone who lacks it very quickly. But it's far from clear precisely what it is we're detecting. Certainly verbal skills are part of it, as are the ability to understand complex issues, to absorb new information, but that list is potentially endless, and strongly affected by the nature of the information. I can absorb new information about mathematical subjects almost instantly in most cases, for instance, and remember it, while my wife will never get it, but she can absorb new information about people and remember it forever, while for me that kind of information rapidly disappears from my memory unless there's some particular reason for me to keep it. People I don't know well and rarely see are to me like mathematics is to her.

Am I more intelligent than she is? According to IQ tests, I am, in fact according to the standards I'm more intelligent than 97% of people, but she has useful skills and knowledge I can't hope to match, so I don't believe it. What I believe is that all the measures of intelligence I've ever seen are nonsense.
 

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Ah, but isn't a question posed with the thought of receiving an answer.
Yes, if it is not a rhetorical question.
Sometimes silence is the best answer.
I fully agree with gerryh. Understanding what the intelligence is comes from the meaning we have for this word and it veries from person to person.
A question that is posed to do nothing but stump the questioned is nothing but a show of arrogance isn't it?
Yes, it is, and if you find a good way to escape from being stumped,you will "demonstrate" intelligence. :)
 

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CIA offers studies in inteligence (ha ha ha )

Mission

The Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) is an independent US Government agency responsible for providing national security intelligence to senior US policymakers.
 

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quandary121

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it did not state that he had written it other wise i would of put it in the statement it make no difference to me ,


The general plot of life is sometimes shaped by the different ways genuine intelligence combines with equally genuine ignorance.
'Autobiography of a face' by Lucy Grealy​

of which genuine ignorance L Gilbert you seem to be displaying here with your futile attempts at intelligence
as i dare you to show anyone here where in http://www.coolquotescollection.com/Wisdom95.aspx[/quote]
it says Dave Barry. wrote it as if it had i should of used it​
 

L Gilbert

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it did not state that he had written it other wise i would of put it in the statement it make no difference to me ,


The general plot of life is sometimes shaped by the different ways genuine intelligence combines with equally genuine ignorance.
'Autobiography of a face' by Lucy Grealy​

of which genuine ignorance L Gilbert you seem to be displaying here with your futile attempts at intelligence

as i dare you to show anyone here where in http://www.coolquotescollection.com/Wisdom95.aspx

it says Dave Barry. wrote it as if it had i should of used it​
[/quote]roflmao My futile attempts at intelligence? You're a funny person. I think you wouldn't know what intelligence was if it farted in your face.

It says right after the third quote by Henry Smith. And then right behind it is another quote by Dave Barry
 

quandary121

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it says Dave Barry. wrote it as if it had i should of used it​
roflmao My futile attempts at intelligence? You're a funny person. I think you wouldn't know what intelligence was if it farted in your face.

It says right after the third quote by Henry Smith. And then right behind it is another quote by Dave Barry[/quote]


not when i put intelligence in the search box it didn't so once again your wrong

 

Lineman

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Back at the initial post I finished with "Light and civil Please" Quandary121 if you can't do so then please find another thread, or better yet another forum, to spout your usual intimidations and insults. If you want a good example how to behave go back a few posts and read Dexter Sinister's or China's excellent posts.