What is inteligence ?

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To find out is not to come to a conclusion. I don't know if you see the difference. The moment you come to a conclusion as to what intelligence is, you cease to be intelligent. That is what most of people have done: they have come to conclusions. Therefore they have ceased to be intelligent. An intelligent mind is one which is constantly learning, never concluding. Most people are satisfied with a definition of what intelligence is or they prefer their own explanation; and a mind that is satisfied with an explanation is very superficial, therefore it is not intelligent. Hope you see that an intelligent mind is a mind which is not satisfied with explanations, with conclusions; nor is it a mind that believes, because belief is again another form of conclusion. An intelligent mind is an inquiring mind, a mind that is watching, learning, studying. Which means what? That there is intelligence only when there is no fear, when you are willing to rebel, to go against the whole social structure in order to find out what God is, or to discover the truth of anything. Intelligence is not knowledge. If you could read all the books in the world it would not give you intelligence. Intelligence is something very subtle; it has no anchorage. it comes into being only when you understand the total process of the mind - not the mind according to some philosopher or teacher, but according to your own mind. Your mind is the result of all humanity, and when you understand it you don't have to study a single book, because the mind contains the whole knowledge of the past. So intelligence comes into being with the understanding of yourself; and you can understand yourself only in relation to the world of people, things and ideas. Intelligence is not something that you can acquire, like learning; it arises with great revolt, that is, when there is no fear - which means, really, when there is a sense of love. For when there is no fear, there is love.
I am afraid that to describe what is intelligence is like asking what is life. Life is study, play, sex, work, quarrel, envy, ambition, love, beauty, truth - life is everything, right?
 
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I don't think a self reflective cognition is the same as intelligence. One is consciousness, the other: how quickly electrical impulses are sorted in the brain.
 
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China "Your mind is the result of all humanity, and when you understand it you don't have to study a single book, because the mind contains the whole knowledge of the past. So intelligence comes into being with the understand"


I think this is truth, that we are unbroken streeching back to the begining that never was and forward into an end that cannot be. Like a circle but not round, like a rock but soft a thundering whisper heard in all the colours of empty black space.
 
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darkbeaver ,
I think this is truth, that we are unbroken streeching back to the begining that never was and forward into an end that cannot be. Like a circle but not round, like a rock but soft a thundering whisper heard in all the colours of empty black space.
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Obviously darkbeaver , your answer to my post places you at a genius level.
 
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china said:
darkbeaver ,

Obviously darkbeaver , your answer to my post places you at a genius level.
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You're one of the few to attain the unique position in the cosmos that affords you the distinction of making that discriminating pronouncement, I salute you, I'm forwarding a rep point to your account while my staff considers a more permanent award marking the aforementioned milestone.:lol:
 
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Do you have a dictionary, China? The American Heritage Dictionary offers this:

in·tel·li·gence

1.capacity for learning, reasoning, understanding, and similar forms of mental activity; aptitude in grasping truths, relationships, facts, meanings, etc.
2.manifestation of a high mental capacity: He writes with intelligence and wit.
3.the faculty of understanding.
4.knowledge of an event, circumstance, etc., received or imparted; news; information.
5.the gathering or distribution of information, esp. secret information.
6.Government. a.information about an enemy or a potential enemy. b.the evaluated conclusions drawn from such information. c.an organization or agency engaged in gathering such information: military intelligence; naval intelligence.
7.interchange of information: They have been maintaining intelligence with foreign agents for years.
8.Christian Science. a fundamental attribute of God, or infinite Mind.
9.(often initial capital letter
) an intelligent being or spirit, esp. an incorporeal one, as an angel.


You're talking about the first three meanings, and I think you're wrong about most of it. For instance:
The moment you come to a conclusion as to what intelligence is, you cease to be intelligent.
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Nope. Your conclusion might be wrong, but that doesn't affect your intelligence. Surely one of the defining features of intelligence is that it can form reasoned, defensible conclusions.
Your mind is the result of all humanity, and when you understand it you don't have to study a single book, because the mind contains the whole knowledge of the past.
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Nope. You're claiming I didn't have to spend all those years in university learning about physics and mathematics and engineering, all I had to do was properly understand my own mind, the information was all already there. I can assure you with complete confidence that that simply isn't true.
Intelligence is not something that you can acquire, like learning; it arises with great revolt...
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Nope. You're right that you can't acquire it if you don't have it, but revolt's got nothing to do with it. You don't have to revolt against anything to be intelligent.

Those are only the three most obvious examples of where you're wrong. Actually I think pretty much every sentence in your OP is wrong.
 
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The moment you come to a conclusion as to what intelligence is, you cease to be intelligent
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Dexter :Nope. Your conclusion might be wrong, but that doesn't affect your intelligence. Surely one of the defining features of intelligence is that it can form reasoned, defensible conclusions.

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Nope ,conclusion is you, Dexter, conclusion is 'the Knowledge which you have .You can only operate within the periphery of your knowledge .You are a donkey tide to a post Dexter.and can only venture the length of the rope Dexter Sinister , 360* , same place ., same thing, nothing new.Intelligence Dexter Sinister ,is not relying on something that you know ,but being in constant process of learning and being aware that the whole universe changes ,from moment to moment and that nothing is conclusive .
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Your mind is the result of all humanity, and when you understand it you don't have to study a single book, because the mind contains the whole knowledge of the past.
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Dexter Sinister : I can assure you with complete confidence that that simply isn't true.

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I can assure you Dexter with complete confidence that to understand ones own mind ,one does not need to attend university and acquire knowledge .
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Intelligence is not something that you can acquire, like learning; it arises with great revolt...
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Dexter Sinister: Nope. You're right that you can't acquire it if you don't have it, but revolt's got nothing to do with it. You don't have to revolt against anything to be intelligent.

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Revolt ,Dexter Sinister has "everything to do with it ".Agree , there are people who don't mind being tied to a post. They are satisfied to function within the knowledge they have , status quo.
A 'revolt' begins with a 'personal dissatisfaction' in those who realize how limited the knowledge is and want to go beyond the periphery .They learn how to cut the rope Dexter - and that is intelligence .
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Dexter Sinister : Actually I think pretty much every sentence in your OP is wrong.
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Actually Dexter Sinister, I truly don,t give a hoot what you think ,you are a bore and not an authority on anything
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Walter ,
What is inteligence ?
Thee abilliti two spel korektlee.
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Perhaps this is the stage you are in right now.


Intelligence is being able with full confidence and understanding ;to go beyond the word ( weather it is spelled correctly or not ) being aware that the word is never "the thing" ; comfortable in comprehending the meaning of the message of which the word is a part of..Worrying whether there are two "L" or not in the word "intelligence" is just being pedantic .
 
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Inteligence is a perfectly made tuna salad sandwich and inteligence is looking both ways before you cross the street and putting your shoes on the corresponding feet or not picking your nose with a knitting needle.
 
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