Mighty Intellect
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Location: china
April 17th, 2008, 09:09 PM
Dear Mikey
I believe that to commune with each other our minds must be at the same level with the same intensity, and we must have the same urgency. We must both have, if we are going to commune with each other, a sharpness, a clarity, an understanding of not only the words but also the significance that lies beyond the words. We must, if we wish to commune with one another, obviously have the capacity to meet each other equally, at the same level (and I'm not implying a usage of 'sophisticated' terms ) and continue to hold that level. Otherwise, our communion, our communication is cut short especially when we are discussing matters that are very difficult,and need a great deal of thought and penetration inside. -The Chink .
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MikeyDB
Reading the Tao de Ching as translated by various scholars is both thought provoking and an interesting study. China (our contributor...not the nation...) has folded concepts from various schools of thought into his particular perspective. Unfortunately I doubt he understands that like (as corollary) an appreciation-of the substance of the Tao de Ching and many ancient writings from all over the world, a preparedness, an appetite if you would for meditation and availability to transcendence must exist before these words are integrated into one's thinking. Like an epiphany... these concepts must be felt first, the words themselves are weak because they're generated by a human mind. Lao Tsu and Chang Tsu have written a great deal that's worthy of inspection, so have Immanuel Kant and many other western writers. I've tried to suggest to China that his efforts fall on ears less than disposed to integrate them and the same difficulty that the ancient scribes have experienced in using concepts analogous to forcing square pegs into round holes through the use of word-symbols delivered to a mind and consciousness unprepared for them is a frustrating and largely futile gesture.
I haven't realized any success in communicating this observation to China so I hesitate to engage him in any dialogue of any kind. He's responded with anger and used demeaning pejorative personal remarks to convince himself that the failure of his efforts is mine and not his....
If you find his contributions entertaining or helpful or thought-provoking, then by all means continue, but be aware that what I've experienced is that there is a fluidity of concept to China's conceptualizations that in many instances appears as oppositional and frequently achieves the entirely opposite intent than the antecedent preamble...
Good luck! __________________
I believe in Nothing everything is sacred: I believe in everything nothing is sacred. The Chink.
Reading the Tao de Ching as translated by various scholars is both thought provoking and an interesting study. China (our contributor...not the nation...) has folded concepts from various schools of thought into his particular perspective. Unfortunately I doubt he understands that like (as corollary) an appreciation-of the substance of the Tao de Ching and many ancient writings from all over the world, a preparedness, an appetite if you would for meditation and availability to transcendence must exist before these words are integrated into one's thinking. Like an epiphany... these concepts must be felt first, the words themselves are weak because they're generated by a human mind. Lao Tsu and Chang Tsu have written a great deal that's worthy of inspection, so have Immanuel Kant and many other western writers. I've tried to suggest to China that his efforts fall on ears less than disposed to integrate them and the same difficulty that the ancient scribes have experienced in using concepts analogous to forcing square pegs into round holes through the use of word-symbols delivered to a mind and consciousness unprepared for them is a frustrating and largely futile gesture.
I haven't realized any success in communicating this observation to China so I hesitate to engage him in any dialogue of any kind. He's responded with anger and used demeaning pejorative personal remarks to convince himself that the failure of his efforts is mine and not his....
If you find his contributions entertaining or helpful or thought-provoking, then by all means continue, but be aware that what I've experienced is that there is a fluidity of concept to China's conceptualizations that in many instances appears as oppositional and frequently achieves the entirely opposite intent than the antecedent preamble...
Good luck! __________________
I believe in Nothing everything is sacred: I believe in everything nothing is sacred. The Chink.
Dear Mikey
I believe that to commune with each other our minds must be at the same level with the same intensity, and we must have the same urgency. We must both have, if we are going to commune with each other, a sharpness, a clarity, an understanding of not only the words but also the significance that lies beyond the words. We must, if we wish to commune with one another, obviously have the capacity to meet each other equally, at the same level (and I'm not implying a usage of 'sophisticated' terms ) and continue to hold that level. Otherwise, our communion, our communication is cut short especially when we are discussing matters that are very difficult,and need a great deal of thought and penetration inside. -The Chink .
Super Genius
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April 17th, 2008, 09:12 PM
Quoting china
and of course..spamming threads about how the "peeps" republic of china is really a bunch of nice guys....
What I believe is important is not a philosophy of life, but to observe what is actually taking place in our daily life,
Mighty Intellect
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Location: china
Location: china
April 17th, 2008, 09:31 PM
thomaska
thomaska
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Where are you coming from ...man?
What I believe is important is not a philosophy of life, but to observe what is actually taking place in our daily life,
and of course..spamming threads about how the "peeps" republic of china is really a bunch of nice guys
and of course..spamming threads about how the "peeps" republic of china is really a bunch of nice guys
Mighty Intellect
Posts: 1,699
Location: china
Location: china
April 19th, 2008, 07:02 AM
Johai ,
Johai ,
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Wherever You want it to go Johai .
.......Forum and that is appreciated, but where is this going?
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Perhaps you should be taking a closer look at yourself .
Perhaps I should be taking a closer look at Tao Te Ling/Tao Te Ching or Lao-tzu?
Sincerely,
Johai
Sincerely,
Johai
