Quote: Originally Posted by marygaspe
We were naive. We were determined. And we wanted to see a free and peaceful world. As a generation, for the most part, we sold out and lost our idealism. but it was a time of artistic and intellectual advancement that is still being felt to this day.
The sad thing is, that when the 60's ended, nothing had really changed. The "establishment" was still in charge. The same corporate people of the 60's were still running thw show after this decade was over. We had long hair and we had more personal freedoms and expressions, but the poor were still poor and the rich still uncaring.
Actually quite a lot was changed. The one that is most significant within the U.S is the end of the draft as a social tool. At the time the draft was set up to force people into certain roles
, so that if you worked in a defence industry you were deferred, if you were a teacher and taught a desirable subject (science or math0, you were deferred. if you taught music or English, you were not deferred.
The whole idea was to push people into "desirable" paths, after all we all know we need more scientists and defense workers, than we need musicians and philosophers.
Interestingly this was not what the military wanted. They didn't want all the people who couldn't make it in school, the ones who were in trouble with the law, to be punishment for not towing the society's line.
I came to Canada at this time from the US, for the obvious reasons. But my background was a little different, I had planned to go into the military, possibly as a career. But I came to the conclusion that the politicians were subverting the American political system and since you cannot speak out politically from within the military, I left my training program, losing my deferment, and "voted with my feet".
Now if you believed that somehow "free love" and the peace movement would end conflict in the world, then you were naive. And there was a lot of that going around, how else do you explain using the Hell's Angels to handle the security at Altimonte concert. Now to my knowledge the Bikers who handled security at Rochdale never engaged in behavior like the H.A.s did, but I might not have heard about it.
Even Rochdale had its rules. Grass, hash and acid were fine, but coke and meth were "verbotten".
From my point of view many people confuse what happened in Vietnam, the American Military did not lose the war, the politicians lost the war, and there was nothing honourable about how they got out and what happened afterward.
One of the resulting changes in the political world is how differently the decision to fight in Iraq was reached. Now some people will always say that the whole WMD thing was a "lie', but I don't buy that. Before the war everyone believed they were there. The fact that weren't found doesn't mean anything beyond the fact that they haven't been found. That they were there at some point is a given, for they had been used. I personally cannot see Saddam giving up any weapon voluntarily, so i believe that he still had WMDs, how many and where is another question.
There is probably a better place to continue this, so i will go to what originally led me here. I'm trying to remember the names of the msuic venues of the time. I remember the Riverboat, the Mynah Bird,The Rock Pile/Masonic Temple, The Zanzibar (on Bloor), The Horseshoe(country music on Queen), Victory Burlesque (Spadina), upstairs at the Brunswick house (dixie land and some times other styles). I think the Gas Works came later, but wasn't there a Penny Farthing in Yorkdale, and a Purple Onion near the village on Avenue? Any others you remember. I'm trying to recollect the period 1968 to about 1972.
Thanks in advance
Last edited by blenheimbard; Mar 24th, 2007 at 06:13 PM..Reason: ended post prematurely