Mass'Debater
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May 8th, 2008, 02:46 PM
Quoting Lester
That, and wondering why their shoes stink like poop.
You look at most of these ground level store managers and you will notice that they are all ladder climbers, trying to ingraciate themselves with upper management get a leg up to the corporate office by stepping on as many people under them as possible. Bad publicity for the company will not help their carreers one whit and I imagine one or two of them may in fact, be walking down the road kicking horse turds wondering what happened to their job.
Gobsmacked
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May 8th, 2008, 03:11 PM
Quoting Lester
Absolutely Lester - that's the grim stakes corporate ladder climbers agree to - if they're willing to shovel an employee's livelihood into the crapper to get a toe hold on the next rung, too bad for them if the exact same mentality boomerangs back on them if things go awry.
You look at most of these ground level store managers and you will notice that they are all ladder climbers, trying to ingraciate themselves with upper management get a leg up to the corporate office by stepping on as many people under them as possible. Bad publicity for the company will not help their carreers one whit and I imagine one or two of them may in fact, be walking down the road kicking horse turds wondering what happened to their job.
Gobsmacked
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May 8th, 2008, 03:16 PM
Quoting Praxius
LOL - oh dear - I've fallen into that same trap myself - trying to apply logic to the reasons some people do the things they do... see where it gets us?
Hey I'm not trying to claim what I am saying is right or wrong.... just getting people to think of all the angles before they decide to pick a side right off the bat.
The only "Logical" reason I can think of them justifying fireing her over one timbit might be because she has done it countless times in the past (Unknown) to a large degree that it was making a noticable difference in their sales.
Considdering anoter person from the company claimed the fireing was an over reaction, I would either attribute that to it actually being an over reaction and the boss was a jerk, or blame shifting and covering for PR purposes. (Unknown)
The only "Logical" reason I can think of them justifying fireing her over one timbit might be because she has done it countless times in the past (Unknown) to a large degree that it was making a noticable difference in their sales.
Considdering anoter person from the company claimed the fireing was an over reaction, I would either attribute that to it actually being an over reaction and the boss was a jerk, or blame shifting and covering for PR purposes. (Unknown)
Quoting Praxius
Oh yer a brat too I see!
Must have something to do with that Global Warming changing the apperance of women. 
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May 8th, 2008, 08:34 PM
http://forums.canadiancontent.net/sc...ll-global.html
^ That was the hidden joke in relation to:
"well ok then - if the employee had the gall to look like a boss's trolloping wife, she really should expect no less!"
I was just saying that perhaps it wasn't her fault and it was due to pollution.
Quoting Zan
It wasn't a trap, it was just a devil's advocate concept to throw out to make others think of available possibilties, no matter how remote their chances.... that doesn't mean I believe it.
LOL - oh dear - I've fallen into that same trap myself - trying to apply logic to the reasons some people do the things they do... see where it gets us?
Quote:
Great Tits cope well with global warming
Oh yer a brat too I see!
http://forums.canadiancontent.net/sc...ll-global.html
^ That was the hidden joke in relation to:
"well ok then - if the employee had the gall to look like a boss's trolloping wife, she really should expect no less!"
I was just saying that perhaps it wasn't her fault and it was due to pollution.
Gobsmacked
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May 8th, 2008, 08:42 PM
Quoting Praxius
errmmm... yes I gathered that.
It wasn't a trap, it was just a devil's advocate concept to throw out to make others think of available possibilties, no matter how remote their chances.... that doesn't mean I believe it.
Quoting Praxius
errmm... I gathered that too.. me calling you a brat was my hidden joke back atcha... based on my reply to the OP in that thread: Great Tits cope well with global warming
http://forums.canadiancontent.net/sc...ll-global.html
^ That was the hidden joke in relation to:
"well ok then - if the employee had the gall to look like a boss's trolloping wife, she really should expect no less!"
I was just saying that perhaps it wasn't her fault and it was due to pollution.
http://forums.canadiancontent.net/sc...ll-global.html
^ That was the hidden joke in relation to:
"well ok then - if the employee had the gall to look like a boss's trolloping wife, she really should expect no less!"
I was just saying that perhaps it wasn't her fault and it was due to pollution.
Quoting Zan
ok then - I think that should about wrap up the debriefings on our posts now hmmm? LOL
lol Juan - yer such a brat!
Genius
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May 8th, 2008, 11:21 PM
TORONTO (Reuters) - An attendant at a Canadian restaurant who was sacked for giving a bite-sized doughnut, worth 16 cents, to an agitated toddler was given her job back on Thursday after the case received wide media attention.http://feeds.reuters.com/~a/reuters/...hNews?i=uBLFQH</img>
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Reuters
TORONTO (Reuters) - An attendant at a Canadian restaurant who was sacked for giving a bite-sized doughnut, worth 16 cents, to an agitated toddler was given her job back on Thursday after the case received wide media attention.http://feeds.reuters.com/~a/reuters/...hNews?i=uBLFQH</img>
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May 9th, 2008, 12:47 AM
Firing for some 16 cent is...woopy
Quoting Avro
Yes he was, he was a big dick and should be replaced.
If they can't prove it she is innocent until proven otherwise....what country do you live in?
Also considering they have video, you'd think that whatever she was doing would have been found out by now.
Considering she has been rehired by another Tim's I think we can consider your argument moot.
Face it, the manager is a dick.
Also considering they have video, you'd think that whatever she was doing would have been found out by now.
Considering she has been rehired by another Tim's I think we can consider your argument moot.
Face it, the manager is a dick.
Firing for some 16 cent is...woopy
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May 9th, 2008, 07:41 AM
Quoting Praxius
In that case the manager was even more in error than before as it comes under "custom and practice" for previously acceptable behavior. Why say nothing for a 3 year period then jump on her, figuratively of course not literally........
One thing I would like to point out is that although all of this was over one 16cent timbit, I can almost guarantee you that through her 3 years of working at tim's, that this wasn't the one and only time she's done this.
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May 9th, 2008, 07:58 AM
True..... I just wanted to throw that out there.
But then again, maybe something was said before and perhaps she was acting like "Oh I never knew" for the media.......
But then we're going further into speculations over something that really doesn't matter to anybody here, nor will it affect our everyday lives.
True..... I just wanted to throw that out there.
But then again, maybe something was said before and perhaps she was acting like "Oh I never knew" for the media.......
But then we're going further into speculations over something that really doesn't matter to anybody here, nor will it affect our everyday lives.
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May 13th, 2008, 12:05 PM
I'm glad the little guy or girl one this one.
But you can go ahead and believe what you want, you will anyways.
Quoting Zzarchov
Since there was such media focus on this I doubt your and many others suspicions are correct as it would have come out by now.
Well, they did prove her guilty, of stealing said Timbit. They took Al Capone down for taxes not his other activities.
No matter how you swing it, she did steal. If she wanted to give the timbit as a gift, she could have taken the 12c from her pocket.
And she admitted to it.
As for Video, its probably digital and of not high enough quality to be used as anything but reinforcement to a hunch.
They didn't fire her from the video, they fired her after she admitted to stealing, which is what leads me to that conclusion. Most camera's aren't of high enough quality these days to be useful.
All her being rehired says is that Tim Hortons doesn't like bad PR. As you said, this happens alot, and usually they aren't rehired.
I find it strange you can so easily envision the manager as a dick, but cannot comprehend the possibility that this woman may be just as bad as you envision the manager.
Having worked my share of minimum wage jobs, I am quite familiar with how often firings like this occur, and how many times the irritating coworker (the one with such a bad attitude they drive off all the competent staff to find somewhere else to work) is the one that gets canned.
That isn't to say it couldn't be the manager is a dick, for all we know the "unprovable reason" might be an "unconscionable reason" like "She keeps passing up extra shifts to take care of her 4 kids".
But one shouldn't take up a heavily biased article at the face value it is trying to project.
No matter how you swing it, she did steal. If she wanted to give the timbit as a gift, she could have taken the 12c from her pocket.
And she admitted to it.
As for Video, its probably digital and of not high enough quality to be used as anything but reinforcement to a hunch.
They didn't fire her from the video, they fired her after she admitted to stealing, which is what leads me to that conclusion. Most camera's aren't of high enough quality these days to be useful.
All her being rehired says is that Tim Hortons doesn't like bad PR. As you said, this happens alot, and usually they aren't rehired.
I find it strange you can so easily envision the manager as a dick, but cannot comprehend the possibility that this woman may be just as bad as you envision the manager.
Having worked my share of minimum wage jobs, I am quite familiar with how often firings like this occur, and how many times the irritating coworker (the one with such a bad attitude they drive off all the competent staff to find somewhere else to work) is the one that gets canned.
That isn't to say it couldn't be the manager is a dick, for all we know the "unprovable reason" might be an "unconscionable reason" like "She keeps passing up extra shifts to take care of her 4 kids".
But one shouldn't take up a heavily biased article at the face value it is trying to project.
I'm glad the little guy or girl one this one.
But you can go ahead and believe what you want, you will anyways.
Knows Too Much
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May 13th, 2008, 10:51 PM
Yes, the media is prone to report on how single mothers of four deserved to be fired. Thats the type of thing that gets good ratings, draws in the ad dollars and keep the business operating (because it is a business venture not a charity based on the free disemination of information)
Yes, the media is prone to report on how single mothers of four deserved to be fired. Thats the type of thing that gets good ratings, draws in the ad dollars and keep the business operating (because it is a business venture not a charity based on the free disemination of information)
