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May 6th, 2008, 11:00 PM
BEIJING, May 6 (Xinhua) -- Chinese citizens must register their identities when they buy potentially deadly knives, Xinhua quoted the Ministry of Public Security on Tuesday as saying.http://feeds.reuters.com/~a/reuters/...hNews?i=fIwtZ6</img>
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BEIJING, May 6 (Xinhua) -- Chinese citizens must register their identities when they buy potentially deadly knives, Xinhua quoted the Ministry of Public Security on Tuesday as saying.http://feeds.reuters.com/~a/reuters/...hNews?i=fIwtZ6</img>
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Steven Hawking's Tutor
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May 6th, 2008, 11:31 PM
Quoting Reuters
IDIOTS! (shakes head)
BEIJING, May 6 (Xinhua) -- Chinese citizens must register their identities when they buy potentially deadly knives, Xinhua quoted the Ministry of Public Security on Tuesday as saying.http://feeds.reuters.com/~a/reuters/...hNews?i=fIwtZ6</img>
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Mass'Debater
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May 7th, 2008, 06:49 AM
Well don't forget that this is China of all places... swords, daggers, katanas etc.... most in our societies see guns as the main weapons of choice, but that isn't so all over the world, and one has to account for which weapons are used more in crimes in their regions and address the situation.
But a registry isn't a ban, and when it boils down to a human's right for a decent defence I think we have more rights owning blades then we do with firearms.... but that's a different subject of debate.
Well don't forget that this is China of all places... swords, daggers, katanas etc.... most in our societies see guns as the main weapons of choice, but that isn't so all over the world, and one has to account for which weapons are used more in crimes in their regions and address the situation.
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Oh well.... until they're a democracy, there's not much to complain about.
...... The targeted daggers include those with blood grooves, lock-knives, and knives with blades measuring over 22 centimeters
But a registry isn't a ban, and when it boils down to a human's right for a decent defence I think we have more rights owning blades then we do with firearms.... but that's a different subject of debate.
Ponderous Intellect
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May 7th, 2008, 07:50 AM
When the "state" decides it's time to target citizens rights government will initiate "registries" and "licences" as means to collect data on who owns what and where they live.
Years ago to own and use a citizen band radio Canadians were required to pay a licensing fee..... When the price of a forty channel CB radio dropped below a hundred bucks....and everyone and their duck had one...the fee went the way of the dinosaurs....
If the Chinese people are stupid enough to believe that the cost of maintaining a database for the numbers of people in China who own edged "weapons" is reasonable and utile....we have nothing to worry about in terms of the Chinese being a whole lot smarter than Canadians or the British!
When the "state" decides it's time to target citizens rights government will initiate "registries" and "licences" as means to collect data on who owns what and where they live.
Years ago to own and use a citizen band radio Canadians were required to pay a licensing fee..... When the price of a forty channel CB radio dropped below a hundred bucks....and everyone and their duck had one...the fee went the way of the dinosaurs....
If the Chinese people are stupid enough to believe that the cost of maintaining a database for the numbers of people in China who own edged "weapons" is reasonable and utile....we have nothing to worry about in terms of the Chinese being a whole lot smarter than Canadians or the British!
May 7th, 2008, 08:30 AM
It brings to mind my husband's view of what's a 'deadly' knife, versus my view.
He came home from a trip once and I had had a particularly uneasy week with him being away. He was stunned to see a 2" paring knife sitting by the bed, and asked why on earth I would take such a measure. I said, "well, with no guns in the house it just made me feel better to have it at hand."
He stated his preference for one of the longer bladed butcher knives for self defense. I looked at him and scoffed, explaining that the longer the blade, the more likely that it would snap. A short, stocky blade allows for repeated stab and twist without the same risk of bending and snapping.
His jaw just sort of dropped. He felt I'd really given it a scary amount of thought.
But in my take on it, you'd really need to register any knife over an inch long.
It brings to mind my husband's view of what's a 'deadly' knife, versus my view.
He came home from a trip once and I had had a particularly uneasy week with him being away. He was stunned to see a 2" paring knife sitting by the bed, and asked why on earth I would take such a measure. I said, "well, with no guns in the house it just made me feel better to have it at hand."
He stated his preference for one of the longer bladed butcher knives for self defense. I looked at him and scoffed, explaining that the longer the blade, the more likely that it would snap. A short, stocky blade allows for repeated stab and twist without the same risk of bending and snapping.
His jaw just sort of dropped. He felt I'd really given it a scary amount of thought.
But in my take on it, you'd really need to register any knife over an inch long.
Mass'Debater
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May 7th, 2008, 09:08 AM
A knife less then an inch long is more of a toothpick then anything and probably wouldn't do much damage anyways.
But anywho, what type of knife or the length one prefers for defense all depends on what style you like to use..... are you a stabber, a slasher or both? Depending on which sort of approach you plan on using determines the knife you would want to use.
A knife less then an inch long is more of a toothpick then anything and probably wouldn't do much damage anyways.
But anywho, what type of knife or the length one prefers for defense all depends on what style you like to use..... are you a stabber, a slasher or both? Depending on which sort of approach you plan on using determines the knife you would want to use.
Clever Clogs
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May 7th, 2008, 09:23 AM
In the hands of someone who knows what they are doing even a small knife is dangerous. There are many places on the body where even a 1/2 inch knife (must be sharp) is enough to kill someone fairly quickly. One of the deadliest weapons IMO is a box cutter just for that reason.
In the hands of someone who knows what they are doing even a small knife is dangerous. There are many places on the body where even a 1/2 inch knife (must be sharp) is enough to kill someone fairly quickly. One of the deadliest weapons IMO is a box cutter just for that reason.
Chief Mogrifier
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May 7th, 2008, 10:33 AM
A few years ago I expressed an interest in J.A. Henkels
knives from Germany. These knives are a work of art and they hold an edge like no other. I first got the big wood knife block and a couple knives. Over the last few years I've filled up he block and some of these knives are impressive to say the least. One feature of these knives is that the blade is also the center spine of the handle.
A few years ago I expressed an interest in J.A. Henkels
knives from Germany. These knives are a work of art and they hold an edge like no other. I first got the big wood knife block and a couple knives. Over the last few years I've filled up he block and some of these knives are impressive to say the least. One feature of these knives is that the blade is also the center spine of the handle.
Love those costume sword dramas Clever Clogs
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May 7th, 2008, 10:51 AM
I think we are going to end up with a pointy stick registry eventually.
We're not allowed to have pointy things in prison either are we? Strange that, Canada is seeming more and more like a prison all the time.
Quoting lone wolf
Absolutely and very dangerous in the right hands again too.
Phillips screwdriver....
Nice and pointy. Perfectly legal.
Woof
Nice and pointy. Perfectly legal.
Woof
I think we are going to end up with a pointy stick registry eventually.
We're not allowed to have pointy things in prison either are we? Strange that, Canada is seeming more and more like a prison all the time.
Mass'Debater
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May 7th, 2008, 11:12 AM
Box Cutters are pretty good for certain things, however the blades are thin and designed to break, which to me is a downfall.
Quoting Scott Free
Well yes, but the chances of success with a 1/2" blade is kinda slim overall and they'd best make proper contact the first chance they get to their target or it's all up in the air after that.
In the hands of someone who knows what they are doing even a small knife is dangerous. There are many places on the body where even a 1/2 inch knife (must be sharp) is enough to kill someone fairly quickly. One of the deadliest weapons IMO is a box cutter just for that reason.
Box Cutters are pretty good for certain things, however the blades are thin and designed to break, which to me is a downfall.
Clever Clogs
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Location: BC
May 7th, 2008, 11:22 AM
One of the first rules of good knife fighting is not letting your opponent know your armed (he shouldn't even know your fighting) until he is being stabbed/slashed and by then he is dead.
Quoting Praxius
I wouldn't be too sure about that unless the other guy is armed too, the guy with the knife has a very good chance otherwise, again though, if he knows what he is doing.
Well yes, but the chances of success with a 1/2" blade is kinda slim overall and they'd best make proper contact the first chance they get to their target or it's all up in the air after that.
Quoting Praxius
Agreed, but again, in the right hands it is far better than nothing.
Box Cutters are pretty good for certain things, however the blades are thin and designed to break, which to me is a downfall.
One of the first rules of good knife fighting is not letting your opponent know your armed (he shouldn't even know your fighting) until he is being stabbed/slashed and by then he is dead.
