How about them Canucks!


talloola
#631
Quote: Originally Posted by JLMView Post

Hopefully now their fortunes will improve and it was a convincing enough win although Chicago got two unanswered goals, which is still the Canuck's weakness, but HEY YOU CAN'T BE A HERO ALL THE TIME.

Against a team like chicago, I will take the win and run like hell, and not look
back, they are a very fine team, and yes, they are very proud, didn't want to
go through that game against the canucks and be shut out, they put on a strong
push in the third period, very typical of how they play 'all' the time, I wouldn't
call it a canuck weakness.
They got a lucky short handed goal from a pass that was in the air and bounced
off of bieksa, and gave them the breakaway, but our shorthanded goal was
just as lucky, but that is hockey.
 
#juan
#632
Quote: Originally Posted by talloolaView Post

Against a team like chicago, I will take the win and run like hell, and not look
back, they are a very fine team, and yes, they are very proud, didn't want to
go through that game against the canucks and be shut out, they put on a strong
push in the third period, very typical of how they play 'all' the time, I wouldn't
call it a canuck weakness.
They got a lucky short handed goal from a pass that was in the air and bounced
off of bieksa, and gave them the breakaway, but our shorthanded goal was
just as lucky, but that is hockey.

I hope the Canucks learned that if they work hard, they can win games. They let up in the third period but fortunately, they had a six goal lead at the time.
 
talloola
#633
Quote: Originally Posted by #juanView Post

I hope the Canucks learned that if they work hard, they can win games. They let up in the third period but fortunately, they had a six goal lead at the time.

Yes Juan they have to work that hard all the time, but if we worked our hardest
and chicago worked their hardest for 60 minutes, we probably would not come out on the
good side of the game, they are more talented individually than we are, so
the hard work part of the game is important for 'all' the teams, and any team
who lets up, which chicago did in the first two periods won't win, that includes
san jose, detroit, boston and the whole nhl.
I don't think canucks let up in the third, chicago decided to 'play' their game,(and
didn't let us play our game),
the game chicago have played all season,and has been so successful,
fortunately for us, they came on too late in the game.
That expression 'outwork the other team' is used by all the coaches, and is
the heart and soul of hockey.
When a team is ahead late in the game 6-0, it is human nature 'not' to
keep pushing for goals, but play more defensive, then chicago's short handed goal
got them going, gave them some emotion and lift.
When we don't do well, it's not 'always' because we aren't playing our hardest, it's
often because the other team is just playing better, and visa versa.
Eg. we played better in the game we lost to minnesota than we did in the game we
won against carolina, the process doesn't always dictate the outcome.
Last edited by talloola; Feb 8th, 2009 at 02:27 PM..
 
#juan
#634
I coached hockey for many years and what I saw, was the Canucks hitting, and winning battles for the puck along the boards, and generally outworking Chicago. You are right about the 6-0 lead not being a motivator in the third. Did you notice that Sundin was on the ice for almost all the Canuck's goals and he wasn't on the ice for any of the goals against.
 
talloola
#635
Quote: Originally Posted by #juanView Post

I coached hockey for many years and what I saw, was the Canucks hitting, and winning battles for the puck along the boards, and generally outworking Chicago. You are right about the 6-0 lead not being a motivator in the third. Did you notice that Sundin was on the ice for almost all the Canuck's goals and he wasn't on the ice for any of the goals against.

Yes, I did notice that about sundin, he is improving leaps and bounds now.
This is a good note now, for them to go on their road trip, their confidence
has risen substantially, no more hesitating and worrying about making a mistake.
Canucks were very strong on the puck, gave each other lots of puck support,
and played a good physical game.
I'm sure they won't win every game while away, but should do well.
Dallas is playing super hockey right now, they just beat rangers two days ago
10-2, and since averys departure, their game has gotton better and better, and
St. Louis has improved lately as well, phoenix isn't playing well at all, 6 losses
in a row, and they are sliding, I hope they remember that when we arrive there
on thursday.
We come back home and play montreal at home on Sunday, never know what
they are going to do, they are inconsistent, then we go to Calgary,
and they have lost four in a row now, so don't know what to think about them
right now, they are leaving for a road trip too, so I will watch and see how
they play during that stint.
Then we leave again and go back east to Ottawa, toronto and montreal, at least
I think it is that order, not totally sure.
Yeah, we have been involved in hockey since very young, my husband played
for years, then coached for many years, and I helped him, in minor hockey.
 
#juan
#636
Quote: Originally Posted by talloolaView Post

Yes, I did notice that about sundin, he is improving leaps and bounds now.
This is a good note now, for them to go on their road trip, their confidence
has risen substantially, no more hesitating and worrying about making a mistake.
Canucks were very strong on the puck, gave each other lots of puck support,
and played a good physical game.
I'm sure they won't win every game while away, but should do well.
Dallas is playing super hockey right now, they just beat rangers two days ago
10-2, and since averys departure, their game has gotton better and better, and
St. Louis has improved lately as well, phoenix isn't playing well at all, 6 losses
in a row, and they are sliding, I hope they remember that when we arrive there
on thursday.
We come back home and play montreal at home on Sunday, never know what
they are going to do, they are inconsistent, then we go to Calgary,
and they have lost four in a row now, so don't know what to think about them
right now, they are leaving for a road trip too, so I will watch and see how
they play during that stint.
Then we leave again and go back east to Ottawa, toronto and montreal, at least
I think it is that order, not totally sure.
Yeah, we have been involved in hockey since very young, my husband played
for years, then coached for many years, and I helped him, in minor hockey.

Pat Quin used to have a saying that he used to describe talented players who were having trouble getting their game together. He used to say the player was emotionally squeezing the juice out of his stick. I think that saying could have applied to several Vancouver Canucks who seem to have solved some of their problems.

Wasn't it fun getting up at 5:00 am to go to hockey practice and lacing up eighteen pairs of skates....I coached right up to Junior B but I liked the Atoms and PeeWees the best because you could still teach them something. When they reached the higher levels they thought they knew everything.
 
talloola
#637
Quote: Originally Posted by #juanView Post

Pat Quin used to have a saying that he used to describe talented players who were having trouble getting their game together. He used to say the player was emotionally squeezing the juice out of his stick. I think that saying could have applied to several Vancouver Canucks who seem to have solved some of their problems.

Wasn't it fun getting up at 5:00 am to go to hockey practice and lacing up eighteen pairs of skates....I coached right up to Junior B but I liked the Atoms and PeeWees the best because you could still teach them something. When they reached the higher levels they thought they knew everything.

I watched my husband play junior hockey, then men's hockey for years before
we were married, then when our kids were old enough we got them started,
all girls, but they played with the boys, and yes, getting up that early was
very forgettable, but we had so much fun, and the kids became very very good
players, and also played in a girls league, and my oldest daughter competed in
the women's canadian championships back east.
They were coached just like the boys no girlie soft stuff at all, good tough
hockey, and they were very competetive.
Last edited by talloola; Feb 9th, 2009 at 01:29 PM..
 
talloola
#638
canucks in st. louis at 5:30 today

both teams playing very well of late, yes, st. louis is at the bottom of our conference,
but don't let that fool you, because they, and other teams in their position as well, are
playing good hockey right now, and canucks will have to play their best to beat them.

that term 'they should beat st. louis' doesn't apply, they are just as good as vancouver,
and better over the 'recent past', so canucks won't have it easy, they must play
their best, or better.
Don't let the point standings fool you, any team can beat any team in this league.
Los angelos, (who are playing top hockey right now) went into washington and won,
then went to new jersy and won, recently, looks like they finally found a top goalie,
which has been their downfall over the last few years.
Last edited by talloola; Feb 10th, 2009 at 01:53 PM..
 
talloola
#639
canucks gutted out a win tonight, with their goalie playing 'average', and not such
a good first period for the team. They were better in the second and toughed it out in the
third, they scored 4 goals in the last period, good for them, it's a big win in the first game of their road trip, and a
very dissapointing loss for st. louis, as it was just as important for them to win
this game as it was for the canucks.
Now they are off to phoenix on thursday.
Burrows looked just fine with the twins, although I don't think he should be there
full time, hopefully gillis can find a player before trade deadline to play on that
line.
Pyatt looked terrible tonight.
Sundin is starting to show everyone 'who' he is, I have never doubted him, as I
watched him score over 30 goals in toronto last year on a poor team.
I can just hear that crowd in toronto next week when we go there, they will
boo sundin till the roof comes down, but he will tune them out, and I hope that
he scores a hat trick while there, that will shut them up.

GO CANUCKS GO
 
JLM
#640
Quote: Originally Posted by talloolaView Post

canucks gutted out a win tonight, with their goalie playing 'average', and not such
a good first period for the team. They were better in the second and toughed it out in the
third, they scored 4 goals in the last period, good for them, it's a big win in the first game of their road trip, and a
very dissapointing loss for st. louis, as it was just as important for them to win
this game as it was for the canucks.
Now they are off to phoenix on thursday.
Burrows looked just fine with the twins, although I don't think he should be there
full time, hopefully gillis can find a player before trade deadline to play on that
line.
Pyatt looked terrible tonight.
Sundin is starting to show everyone 'who' he is, I have never doubted him, as I
watched him score over 30 goals in toronto last year on a poor team.
I can just hear that crowd in toronto next week when we go there, they will
boo sundin till the roof comes down, but he will tune them out, and I hope that
he scores a hat trick while there, that will shut them up.

GO CANUCKS GO

Yep, they seem to be getting back on track and it was only a week ago they were talking nonsense about firing the coach. Every team has bad spells.
 
talloola
#641
Quote: Originally Posted by JLMView Post

Yep, they seem to be getting back on track and it was only a week ago they were talking nonsense about firing the coach. Every team has bad spells.

That's right they do, a team can't go all through the season in top form, or doing
their worst, they will have down times, injuries cause that, goalie injury hurt
us, and now that he is back he can't find his form, but we can show some support
for him by winning without him playing in top form, he will come around.
Sami Salo's injury hurt us, he is a great defenceman, and they need him, just
hope he has stopped all of those injuries now.
Gillis explained that their problems were not 'coaching' problems, but the media
and fans push the panic button, they all want something done 'NOW', sane
minds seem to go out the door.
 
#juan
#642
That line of Sundin, Demetra, and Kesler, combined for seven or eight points last night. That line has provided a large percentage of the Canuck's scoring in the last few games. Edler and Biaksa are another honourable mentions because they add to the scoring as well. We know who the first line is. I think it would be a good idea to identify the second and third lines as well. Nothing improves a line like lots of playing time together.
 
TenPenny
#643
I like Sundin's smile when he scores.

He's enjoying himself again.
 
Kreskin
#644
I didn't see the game. I enjoyed clips of Brian Burke being his usual self. His level of self-importance is pretty high. They will need to expand his viewing box just to fit his head.
 
talloola
#645
Quote: Originally Posted by #juanView Post

That line of Sundin, Demetra, and Kesler, combined for seven or eight points last night. That line has provided a large percentage of the Canuck's scoring in the last few games. Edler and Biaksa are another honourable mentions because they add to the scoring as well. We know who the first line is. I think it would be a good idea to identify the second and third lines as well. Nothing improves a line like lots of playing time together.

It can be like putting pieces of a puzzle together, not sure if the pieces fit, but
worth a try, it doesn't take long to know that it 'doesn't' fit too.
If they could only find a player to play with the sedins, it has to someone who
'they' will respect as a goal scorer, so they will 'think' to pass him the puck
once in awhile, they miss so many scoring chances it gets irritating, they are
very talented but I do believe they love passing to each other more than they
like scoring a goal.
They have fed Pyatt the puck on many occasions, but he misses his chances 99%
of the time, they need a sniper type.
 
#juan
#646
Quote: Originally Posted by talloolaView Post

It can be like putting pieces of a puzzle together, not sure if the pieces fit, but
worth a try, it doesn't take long to know that it 'doesn't' fit too.
If they could only find a player to play with the sedins, it has to someone who
'they' will respect as a goal scorer, so they will 'think' to pass him the puck
once in awhile, they miss so many scoring chances it gets irritating, they are
very talented but I do believe they love passing to each other more than they
like scoring a goal.
They have fed Pyatt the puck on many occasions, but he misses his chances 99%
of the time, they need a sniper type.

I guess part of my point is that the season is getting on and the lines should be pretty well set by now......At least to the second line. I know that with penalties and injuries, it makes it difficult but as you say, just pick someone to play with the Sedins....I thought Pyat had that job but he has fallen out of favour or something. I think they have a number of players who could skat with the Sedins. I'm really surprised it took so long to settle on Sundin, Kesler, and Demetra. They played together a month ago and there seemed to be some chemistry but I guess Sundin was not really ready yet
 
talloola
#647
Quote: Originally Posted by #juanView Post

I guess part of my point is that the season is getting on and the lines should be pretty well set by now......At least to the second line. I know that with penalties and injuries, it makes it difficult but as you say, just pick someone to play with the Sedins....I thought Pyat had that job but he has fallen out of favour or something. I think they have a number of players who could skat with the Sedins. I'm really surprised it took so long to settle on Sundin, Kesler, and Demetra. They played together a month ago and there seemed to be some chemistry but I guess Sundin was not really ready yet

Demitra got hurt after the first game they played together, I think he missed
about 12 games.

It takes a while to balance the lines, now the sedins can be the second line,
vineault couldn't do that before, since we had the 'west coast express', but
that line went down the toilet.
If Raymond had of stayed on his game, he wouldn't have been a good one for
the sedins, but his game dissapeared some time ago, he is just getting spotty
ice time now, but hopefully he will come out of it, and start playing better
again, he has so much potential, but somewhere along the way he got lost.
It will come back.
They tried bernier, but he is a fumble bum, not a finesse player, lots of speed,
lots of heart, not too much between the ears, and he seems to be doing better
on the third line, he does have nhl desire and skating.
Hannson didn't do anything on the sedin line, just doesn't think the same as
them. In my opinion they need someone better than they are, who can put
the puck in the net from anywhere out and around the net.
I don't think pyatt is an nhl player, he shows some potential in some games,
but there are better than him in Manitoba I'm sure.
I'm not concerned about them now that the sundin line seems to be coming
together, they are fine.
It's just 'tweaking' now, and the trade dealine is mar 4, so things will begin
to happen around the league soon, so maybe gillis can swing a deal of some
sort.
As long as they stay healthy, they will be fine, but all teams are in that
position, as injuries upset everything.
 
talloola
#648


Canucks coyotes tonight, coyotes beat dallas last night 1-0, it is their first win
in about 9 games or so, they are struggling, but like all teams can beat anyone
on any given night.
They are very very young, will have lots of energy and speed, and a good
goalie, although similar to luongo he has been rather inconsistent of late.
I really notice a new energy level in all games now, trade deadline approaching
and teams are beginning to feel that playoff 'fever', and in our conference there
are many teams who are in one day and out the next, including the canucks.

GO CANUCKS GO

The Canadians have gone down the toilet lately, losing badly, and last night
edmonton beat them 7-2 I think it was, the are floundering right now, look
quite a bit like canucks looked in their 'down' time, nothing is going right
for them. We play them at home on Sunday then we are back on the road
again.
Last edited by talloola; Feb 12th, 2009 at 02:01 PM..
 
talloola
#649
Canucks pulled off a third period surge to come from behind and win this game 4-3
We missed lots of scoring chances throughout the game, not a great two periods,
not a lot of flow, but we took advantage of a tired team in the third, as they
played last night, and the canucks pumped up the intensity and speed, and
definitely took over in the third. So, good for them, they are on the road, so
however you win, it's just important to win.
The third line with wellwood and company played well, and he especially had his
best game in a long while, did him good to spend a little time in the press box,
watching, makes them very hungry to play and prove themselves again, he could
have had 2 goals, great save on the first one, and he hit the post on the second
one, so a bit of bad luck.
I like Burrows with the twins, he had a good game.
We will be the tired team in the third tomorrow as we play Dallas, and they
are playing very well of late, so it will be a hard game to win, we'll see.
At the moment, and for today, we are alone in 6th place.

GO CANUCKS GO
 
JLM
#650
Quote: Originally Posted by talloolaView Post

Canucks pulled off a third period surge to come from behind and win this game 4-3
We missed lots of scoring chances throughout the game, not a great two periods,
not a lot of flow, but we took advantage of a tired team in the third, as they
played last night, and the canucks pumped up the intensity and speed, and
definitely took over in the third. So, good for them, they are on the road, so
however you win, it's just important to win.
The third line with wellwood and company played well, and he especially had his
best game in a long while, did him good to spend a little time in the press box,
watching, makes them very hungry to play and prove themselves again, he could
have had 2 goals, great save on the first one, and he hit the post on the second
one, so a bit of bad luck.
I like Burrows with the twins, he had a good game.
We will be the tired team in the third tomorrow as we play Dallas, and they
are playing very well of late, so it will be a hard game to win, we'll see.
At the moment, and for today, we are alone in 6th place.

GO CANUCKS GO

That was great, I'd written them off in the first period.
 
Kreskin
#651
The Canucks have become Canada's team. 650+posts about the Canucks. 0 about the Leafs. 0 Habs. 0 Ottawa, Calgary and Edmonton.
 
In Between Man
#652
Quote: Originally Posted by KreskinView Post

The Canucks have become Canada's team. 650+posts about the Canucks. 0 about the Leafs. 0 Habs. 0 Ottawa, Calgary and Edmonton.

We are Canada's Team, aren't we?! Think about it, who else really has a squad currently capable of capturing the precious. If it ever happens, this province is gonna go crazy!

You ever seen American teams win, and the fans aren't just standing and clapping, pleasantly amused that their team just won the cup.

Uh... It would be like that here at the Garage! People would be climbing the rafters, crying in the beautiful moment, and probably destroying their vocal chords. Not to mention what IS going to happen when the fans spill into the street...

... I don't think the VPD are Canuck fans!
 
talloola
#653
[quote=alleywayzalwayz;1051871]We are Canada's Team, aren't we?! Think about it, who else really has a squad currently capable of capturing the precious. If it ever happens, this province is gonna go crazy!

You ever seen American teams win, and the fans aren't just standing and clapping, pleasantly amused that their team just won the cup.

Uh... It would be like that here at the Garage! People would be climbing the rafters, crying in the beautiful moment, and probably destroying their vocal chords. Not to mention what IS going to happen when the fans spill into the street...

A scary thought indeed. Yes I can imagine this city/province if the canucks
(or I should say 'when') the canucks win the stanley cup. They definitely are
making all of us wait, but 'next' year is always right around the corner, every
year.
Let's see I'm 70 now, they have been in the league for 38 years, they better
not wait another 38 or, well, you know
I don't think they have it in them this year, but I think they have turned the
corner and with the new management, it's not far away.
Gillis has it right when he says he will build this team from 'within', and he
has a few good young ones allready, in the AHL./juniors.
 
talloola
#654
Quote: Originally Posted by KreskinView Post

I didn't see the game. I enjoyed clips of Brian Burke being his usual self. His level of self-importance is pretty high. They will need to expand his viewing box just to fit his head.

Rick Ball (team 1040) had a contest last year, a couple of his friends showed up
at the station and they had their heads measured, Rick Ball won, with the
biggest head, Brian Burke wasn't there, but if he was there, he would have
won, hands down, and the biggest ego to match, and he's a big bore to go
along with it.
I'm glad he's now in the east, and especially in the 'center of the universe',
he fits right in there.
 
#juan
#655
The Canuck's second line seems to be settled for the time being, It looks like Burrows is getting the nod to play with the twins. On a positive note, except for Demetra's goal, the big line was held off the scoreboard but the Sedins and Salo and a few others picked up the slack. Other teams can no longer just put their best checking line out against Sundin, Kesler, and Demetra. The Canucks have other lines that bite as well and other teams are blowing leads in the latter periods like Phoenix did last night, and St. Louis did a couple nights ago. If Gillis is looking at finding players to fill out the team, I hope he finds a couple of good defensemen who can defend, but also join the rush occasionally
 
talloola
#656
Quote: Originally Posted by #juanView Post

The Canuck's second line seems to be settled for the time being, It looks like Burrows is getting the nod to play with the twins. On a positive note, except for Demetra's goal, the big line was held off the scoreboard but the Sedins and Salo and a few others picked up the slack. Other teams can no longer just put their best checking line out against Sundin, Kesler, and Demetra. The Canucks have other lines that bite as well and other teams are blowing leads in the latter periods like Phoenix did last night, and St. Louis did a couple nights ago. If Gillis is looking at finding players to fill out the team, I hope he finds a couple of good defensemen who can defend, but also join the rush occasionally

I agree Juan, a good puck moving defenceman, and one who can run the powerplay,
is just what we need, but another very good scoring forward wouldn't hurt
either, because Burrows might not stay on that line, and I think it depends
what happens to the third line, it looked good last night, hope it stays that
way, I think wellwood will play good if the team is going good, but when the
team is struggling like they were before he is useless in a defensive role.

Tonight will be tough, if they win tonight it will be their best win of the three,
cause dallas is playing better than the other two, even though phoenix beat
them 1-0 the other night, and we might be unable to maintain enough energy
throughout three periods, hope I'm wrong.

GO CANUCKS GO
 
talloola
#657



Canucks/stars 5:30 today
 
talloola
#658
Canucks played well, it was a good game, just didn't win. Both teams hit posts more than once,
and when time ran out dallas was ahead by one.
Sundin played with the flu, so he didn't make an impact, but supported his line,
and did the best he could under the conditions.
Wellwood had another strong game, guess raymond will continue sitting in the
press box for awhile.
LaBarbera played a very strong game in goal.

Back home now, and hosting Montreal on Sunday.

GO CANUCKS GO
 
shadowshiv
#659
Quote: Originally Posted by KreskinView Post

The Canucks have become Canada's team. 650+posts about the Canucks. 0 about the Leafs. 0 Habs. 0 Ottawa, Calgary and Edmonton.

Hey! I can't help it if I am one of the few Leaf fans here!

At least I don't bash Vancouver...I save that for Montreal and Ottawa(who are getting smoked 3-0 in the first period as I type this).

This thread, I feel, has become the NHL(heck, the HOCKEY) thread rather than just a thread about the Canucks. Which is cool, since the other thread hasn't been touched since December. I will write any hockey musings in this thread from now on.

Unless talloola tells me to stop, that is.
 
shadowshiv
#660
A record-setting milestone happened tonight. Mike Green, a defenseman from Washington, just scored a goal in his 8th straight game. This breaks the modern NHL record, and I believe closes the gap on the all-time record(11 straight games). This kid is amazing! He has 22 goals, 28 assists, and is +26!

To put this into perspective, he has more goals than Zetterberg(and I believe Green missed between 8-12 games due to a shoulder injury)! There are also a lot of "A" type scorers who have less goals than he does. Amazing. He could be a future Pronger type of player(even better, who know?).
 

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