Quote: Originally Posted by alleywayzalwayz
What do you call a place where you have impunity from the law?
Who has impunity from the law?
What would happen if a police officer went inside the Insite clinic, arrested a person in possession of heroin, and dragged him to the police station?
Why would a police officer on the Vancouver force, who happen to support Insite btw, go in and arrest a person without a complaint?
People would be screaming because the RIGHT for this individual to use Insite was violated. Once you give someone a place where they are exempt from law, you create a right.
Really? People would be screaming because an addict got arrested? They get arrested every day so what the hell are you talking about?
The finger isn't on me at the moment, it's on the poor folks who use Insite. Don't change the subject.
Yeah this is true, but you're no less a hypocrite for that fact. The argument you make is applied to you. You enjoy Cannabis, it's illegal, you should be arrested, jailed and most of your stuff taken away from you and sold to support the system preventing you from using and dealing drugs.
It really hasn't put a dent in the problems of these people. HIV and littered needles still overrun the downtown eastside. Crime may be down since Insite opened, but that's more than likely due to the stepped up law enforcement. This was part of the 4 pillar approach. Prevention (educating youth), treatment (drug and alcohol programs), harm reduction (insite) and law enforcement.
Of course it has. The research shows that clearly. There is no cure for HIV so no matter what those with HIV will always have HIV. Why do you expect an injection site to cure HIV? Every needle used and disposed of at Insite is a needle that isn't going to end up in a park or playground or where someone could get stuck by it. Do you realize how stupid it sounds when you say crime has been reduced by a four pillar approach so one pillar should be removed?
The last thing a heroin addict needs is heroin, especially when a good portion of these souls are mentally ill.
Shut down Insite.
Heroin addicts are going to get Heroin. There is nothing you or anyone else is going to do about that. Nothing. You really need to understand that part first before you can manage to understand harm reduction. Heroin is physically addictive. That means that you just don't stop using it without causing some problems.
Generally someone who is addicted to injecting drugs, is self medicating. Some do have mental health problems. Just because you allow the government to cut funding to services that help those with drug or mental health issues doesn't mean the problem is resolved. Neither does it mean that you moral obligation to you fellow man is fulfilled.
Insite as intended, uses proven techniques to reduce the harm that IV drug addiction has on both the addict and the community the addict lives in.
Increasing referrals to health and social programs
Reducing overdose fatalities
Reducing the transmission of blood-borne infections like HIV and Hepatitis C
Reducing injection-related infections
Improving public order
The only person who is able to help an addicted person break the addiction is the addicted person. Do what you like, but unless the addicted person wants to quit, there is no changing the addiction.
Having the right people with the right resources on hand when the addict chooses to try and kick the addiction provides a much better chance that the addict will have success over simply ignoring the problem. All the good things that come from harm reduction helps the rest of the community as well.