I made no such claim at all. I claimed the Conservative Party and the candidate are pig dogs and Naziesk in the reaction to what the Conservative candidate claimed was a violation of the elections laws. Taking the law into your own hands is against the law. Further, the polling station is run by an official of Elections Canada, if there is an allegation, then there are channels it goes through to be resolved.
Just because you make an allegation of voter fraud, doesn't mean that all the votes that have been cast are now void. It's not his call to make. That he attempted to take the ballot box, thinking it was holding votes that would reduce his chances of winning is exactly Nazi like. Calling a scum bag a scum bag isn't partisan. My integrity is just fine. You should consider your own in that you feel it best to form a strawman argument rather than address simply what was written.
Yet it says in quote from Elections Canada that some rules are relaxed. Not tossed out, just relaxed. Quoting Elections Canada: "They won’t be holding anymore advanced balloting at the university in the future, but all of the votes cast will be considered valid." Thus a ruling made that the polling station was not, as you claim illegal, but in fact legal and at the point this all broke loose, condoned by Elections Canada. So as it tuns out, The Conservative Candidate first illegally videoed voters voting in a condoned polling station, attempted to snatch away a ballot box, that is later judged by the only organization vested with that authority to be both condoned and legal.
Ya, like nullifying all ballots, from a poling station that was a complete clusterf!ck from the get go.
2nd - Fact Elections Canada has indeed been litigating with the Cons for a number of years.
3rd - Civil Servants are not impartial - Where the hell do you think leaks such as the Aud Gen come from. Those reports were sent to the heads of the Govt departments. Now i am sure they would not leak it. Or are you of an opposing view on this.
4th - The Law was broken. Adhere to the law, investigate and if the evidence shows interference, improperly run Polling Station, Scrutinier denied for no reason. Then and only then file charges.
5th - The ballots can be quarantined.
6th - Your partisanship is driving your opinion on flouting the law. Why - because most young voters go Lib or NDP.
7th - Correct spelling - Schweinhund -No e eh.
So it was not authorized by Elections Canada, yet they now authorize it. And you support that.
But the statement also notes that the special-ballot polling station, set up Wednesday by local Elections Canada returning officer Anne Budra to encourage students to vote, “was not pre-authorized by the Chief Electoral Officer,” and that all returning officers have been instructed “not to engage in any further activities of a similar nature.”
Seeing as you are neither breathing Zyklon B, nor storming the beaches............I thank you for conceding my point.
What is your problem with the Conservative candidate's behaviour?
He video tapped voters and attempted to steal a ballot box.
Why is this a problem?
Because it suppresses democracy.
Do you claim another reason for having a problem with the candidate's behaviour? If not then you lie when you say you are not interested in defending the democratic process.
Personally, I think you do have another reason. Your real problem is that the candidate is a Conservative. You don't give a damn about the democratic process. You selected this criticism over the others available because you don't like conservatives.
Ah ha, "straw man" I see you've reached level 2 of amateur debate. Level 1 "ad hominem"; level 2 "straw man". Now that you know the word, try learning what it actually means, and when you've done that you have a few more levels to go before you stop relying on fallacy catchphrases.
For your continued education, please note the following:
A straw man is a misrepresentation of an argument. I am not misrepresenting your argument. I addressed your point as much as I needed to when I agreed that the Conservative candidate had broken the law. My point about your partisan hackery was a new subject.
Level 2 amateur debaters I don't think have learned "appeal to authority". If the only organization with the authority to declare it illegal said it was legal, that still doesn't mean it wasn't illegal. They merely said it was legal. It could have still violated the law. And it just so happens that Elections Canada does not have the authority to render legal decisions. The courts do. So illogical on the use of authority and you got the wrong authority.
That's two strikes plus your straw man strike. That makes three strikes. You're out.
You can put away the sense of intellectual superiority now, boyo. It's a cheap tactic and you're way out of your element. How about getting back to the real issue?
Elections Canada said they would validate the votes. They also said that the special polling station was not authorized, which is required, and have shut down all similar such initiatives as a result of this one official's poor judgement. The accusation that partisan material was on display remains unresolved and probably won't be resolved. The rules are relaxed for these kinds of polls but not the rules against special ballot coordinators allowing displays of political materials when conducting any of their official duties. So there are still questions in the air as to whether this was actually legit regardless of the matter now being closed.
Those with concern for the integrity of the democratic process should be concerned about this incident, the special ballot, the accusations of partisan propaganda, its lack of pre-authorization and the behaviour of Conservative party representatives. Those who are hacks, however, would only be concerned with the problems that might make their opponents look bad.
What makes you say it was a complete clusterfack from the get go?
Some candidate saying it was plastered with posters? Was this a fact or just some bunk the guy invented because it didn't like the idea of possible Liberal or NDP votes going against him?
If Elections Canada say their ok then that should be enough.
Seems Conservatives like playing fast and loose with the rules (hello in and out scandal) when it suits them, yet take umbrage at the thought of something not going their way.
Or should it be acceptable for some Liberal or NDP hack to claim a Conservative strong polling area is illegal and render it nullified on that say so?
A well intentioned returning officer, Elections Canada's words, organized a sanctioned, but not authorized advanced poll, again, Elections Canada's words.
You seem to be sure that some Conservative idiot tried to grab a ballot box, on somebody's mere word.
Elections Canada can not say what rules can apply where. The rules are set so as to keep incidents like this from happening. The fact that it happened, only strengthens the necessity for those rules.
If the returning officer is bending rules, the station littered with Conservative campaign material, they absolutely should do something about it. Like video tape it. To record the violations, for further investigation. I won't condone attempting to grab a ballot box.
And I stand by my opinion, that those ballots should be void.
A number of people have said it happened, some claiming to be non partisan. There has been no word from anyone refuting that claim. So it's seems likely to be true. Otherwise there would be a counter claim to the story rather than Harper stating that the Conservatives accept the Elections Canada ruling on the matter.
They can, the always have and they just did. All parties involved in the dispute have agreed to it. So I have to say that you are incorrect sir.
I know the thought of it is hysterically funny.
If I understand it correctly he was inside the University Centre taking video of the voters as they were going to vote. All party posters were at the time, posted 200 meters outside the University Centre. Once the Elections official returned with new rules stating the whole campus was to be free of all campaign materials, they were removed.
You got it you big ol' softey! lol