Western govts have 'no right to interfere' in China's affairs

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Western govts have 'no right to interfere' in China's affairs

(Xinhua)
Updated: 2010-10-14 22:22

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BEIJING - China here Thursday questioned the intentions of foreign governments who supported the 2010 Nobel Peace Prize going to Liu Xiaobo, saying those governments had no right to interfere in China's internal affairs.
"What is the true intention of those foreign political figures and governments who support the granting of the Nobel Peace Prize to Mr. Liu Xiaobo? Is it because they resent China's development path and hate China's political system?" Chinese Foreign Ministry spokesman Ma Zhaoxu questioned.
Ma said at a regular news briefing that whether China had chosen the best way to more forward, both politically and socially, was best judged by the development reality in China, and the 1.3 billion Chinese people had the biggest say.
"China's affairs should be left to Chinese people themselves," Ma said, adding that the few biased individuals with the Norwegian Nobel Committee had no right to judge China, and western governments had no right to interfere in China's internal affairs.
"We never interfere in other's internal affairs, and will not allow others to interfere in ours," said Ma.
The Norwegian Nobel Committee awarded the 2010 Nobel Peace Prize to Liu Xiaobo on October 8th in Oslo, Norway. Liu was sentenced to 11 years in jail on December 25, 2009 after a local court in Beijing convicted him of agitation aimed at subverting the government.

 

[TenPenny]

I don't understand why all of these articles start out with

'A Large Medium Small BEIJING'

I thought Beijing was quite large, as far as cities go.

 

[Avro]

As China has no right to Taiwan.

 

[china]

i don't understand why all of these articles start out with
'a large medium small beijing'

Neither do I tenpenny though I've deleted it .



i thought beijing was quite large, as far as cities go.

i thought beijing was quite large, as far as cities go.

beijing and the surrounding areas =half the population of canada .

 

[Avro]

As China has no right to Taiwan.

Well since I got a postive reaction from you on this China can expect equal treatment when it stops sabre rattling and perhaps at the same time can free Tibet.

 

[wulfie68]

BEIJING - China here Thursday questioned the intentions of foreign governments who supported the 2010 Nobel Peace Prize going to Liu Xiaobo, saying those governments had no right to interfere in China's internal affairs.

Agreed, just as China has no right to interfere with other governments.

Ma said at a regular news briefing that whether China had chosen the best way to more forward, both politically and socially, was best judged by the development reality in China, and the 1.3 billion Chinese people had the biggest say.

I agree in part, that the 1.3 billion Chinese have the biggest say but if China wants to trade outside her own borders she also has to be sensitive to the values of her trading partners.

"We never interfere in other's internal affairs, and will not allow others to interfere in ours," said Ma.

Sorry this is BS. See the Korean War, the Vietnam War (to a lesser extent but there was involvement) and the occupation of Tibet for the proof of the lie here.

The Norwegian Nobel Committee awarded the 2010 Nobel Peace Prize to Liu Xiaobo on October 8th in Oslo, Norway. Liu was sentenced to 11 years in jail on December 25, 2009 after a local court in Beijing convicted him of agitation aimed at subverting the government.

China should recognize this for what it is: its trading partners chiding it for its imperialistic and inhumane practices. If China doesn't want such recognition then it should make some efforts to address the underlying issues.

 

[lone wolf]

If they can give a Nobel Prize for promises, they can give one to dissidents. The Prize isn't a Chinese-controlled thing anyhow.

 

[china]

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wulfie68

Sorry this is BS. See the Korean War, the Vietnam War (to a lesser extent but there was involvement) and the occupation of Tibet for the proof of the lie her

e.

I was hoping that it is very clear that the China that I`m describing in my posts is the China that has opened itself to the world 40 years or so.
I can go and show all the atrocities done by the Canadian Government to its native people or the innocent Japanese Canadians put into camps like animals during the second world war but there is no reason to do so ;countries are changing -constantly ,China is changing for the better.
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written by an American ex-pat .

[Liu Xiaobo_____], if he doesn´t like it in China…why doesn´t he move to the United States if he thinks it is so great here? We ONCE had a 100 sq foot free speech area 5 miles from the Republican Conventions that nominated George W. Bush who then became president…by loosing two elections. And we have a bigger Cult of Incumbents than the defunct communist party ever had. AND this country rapes more of the world´s resources and causes the greatest amount of terror and unbearable poverty by maintaining more weapons of mass destruction than any other two insane nations on the face of the earth. But that still does not even take into account that this land of ¨freedom¨ has more people in prison…than any other country on the face of the earth.

 

[lone wolf]

Isn't it better to segregate potential enemies of the state than to slaughter them?

 

[damngrumpy]

Like all things about China the nation is an enigma. People say what about
Tibet, they did indeed destroy Tibet and its culture by interfering in the affairs
of that country. During WWII China was our ally including some of those who
would later become the Communist Party.
China does not want to recognize we are doing business with tyrants and we
should be saying even more about that. My dad used to use the old saying,
lie down dogs and you wake up with fleas.
As for Korea, that the Chinese did not start, it was America that drew China
into that war. There was a civil war going on between the two Koreas after
the Second World War. America supported the south the Communists the
north. It was actually North Koreans that invaded the South. The United States
bombed a bridge, the name of it escapes me at the moment, a bridge to the
North Korean landscape but the other end was china. Yes it was an excuse
but a good one. As Truman said, something to the effect MAcArthur asked to
bomb the bridge he just didn't tell me China was connected to the other end of
it.
We don't have a right to interfere in the internal affairs of China, but by the same
token we don't have to do business with the advocates of slave labour and
oppression. We are the gateway to Chinese prosperity and if we chose not to
do business with them, they can't prosper. Don't say it can't be done, we have
done exactly that to Cuba for more than half a century. When the US Government
puts countries off limits, those companies comply. Saying things will get better
by doing business with them is relative. Things get better for some of us, in the
name of profit, and things get better for the corrupt regime but things do not get
better for the social and economic development for people who want to be free.
Our protests against the government of China are therefore motivated by GUILT
not progress. Overcoming the feeling of guilt helps us to play down our greed
and that is not good for anyone.

 

[Colpy]

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wulfie68

e.

I was hoping that it is very clear that the China that I`m describing in my posts is the China that has opened itself to the world 40 years or so.
I can go and show all the atrocities done by the Canadian Government to its native people or the innocent Japanese Canadians put into camps like animals during the second world war but there is no reason to do so ;countries are changing -constantly ,China is changing for the better.
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written by an American ex-pat .

[Liu Xiaobo_____], if he doesn´t like it in China…why doesn´t he move to the United States if he thinks it is so great here? We ONCE had a 100 sq foot free speech area 5 miles from the Republican Conventions that nominated George W. Bush who then became president…by loosing two elections. And we have a bigger Cult of Incumbents than the defunct communist party ever had. AND this country rapes more of the world´s resources and causes the greatest amount of terror and unbearable poverty by maintaining more weapons of mass destruction than any other two insane nations on the face of the earth. But that still does not even take into account that this land of ¨freedom¨ has more people in prison…than any other country on the face of the earth.

Right. China has murdered 50 million of its own citizens, 1.2 million Tibetans, executes more people than the rest of the world combined, ans is the fourth worst human rights abuser on earth.

And you have the gall to compare her favourably with Canada and the USA.

Unbelievable.

You are a VERY warped individual...

BTW, G.W. Bush WON two elections, whether this idiot ex-pat you quoted understands that or not. I didn't get any further than that, as he had already proven himself completely out of touch with reality.

Try backing your claims by quoting someone with an IQ higher than their hat size.

 

[china]

Right. China has murdered 50 million of its own citizens, 1.2 million Tibetans, executes more people than the rest of the world combined, ans is the fourth worst human rights abuser on earth.

And you have the gall to compare her favourably with Canada and the USA.

Right. China has murdered 50 million of its own citizens, 1.2 million Tibetans, executes more people than the rest of the world combined, ans is the fourth worst human rights abuser on earth[/QUOTE

How do you know ?.....have you bin there ? have you count the citizens , the dead ? HOW THE F....K DO YOU KNOW MISTER ?Have you bin there ? On the other hand you know how many citizens were murdered by]your country ?

And you have the gall to compare her favourably with Canada and........

Not at all ! the importance of Canada in the eyes of the world was very well portrayed by the United Nations ; there is nothing to compare; favorably or whatever.Wake up boy .
This is the world.


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[gerryh]

Right. China has murdered 50 million of its own citizens, 1.2 million Tibetans, executes more people than the rest of the world combined, ans is the fourth worst human rights abuser on earth.

And you have the gall to compare her favourably with Canada and the USA.

Unbelievable.

You are a VERY warped individual...

BTW, G.W. Bush WON two elections, whether this idiot ex-pat you quoted understands that or not. I didn't get any further than that, as he had already proven himself completely out of touch with reality.

Try backing your claims by quoting someone with an IQ higher than their hat size.

What makes all these flag waiving chinese posts even more disgusting is the fact that the person posting them claims to be a Canadian citizen yet all he has EVER done is bash Canada and put china out there as some kind of utopian paradise.

How do you know ?.....have you bin there ? have you count the citizens , the dead ? HOW THE F....K DO YOU KNOW MISTER ?Have you bin there ? On the other hand you know how many citizens were murdered by]your country ?
Not at all ! the importance of Canada in the eyes of the world was very well portrayed by the United Nations ; there is nothing to compare; favorably or whatever.Wake up boy .
This is the world.


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Ok, I expect to hear that china has now renounced his Canadian citizenship and has surrendered his Canadian Passport in favour of chinese citizenship and a chinese passport.

 

[damngrumpy]

The current Chinese Government has killed millions and many simply because
they thought differently than their neighbours. It should be remembered that the
previous government of Chen Kai Shek was as bad or worse. The people had
turned to the Communists to get rid of him. No matter how big the smile is on the
faces of the Chinese leadership they are still blood thirsty buggers who are
laughing at the west. The next great war will be fought over trade just like every
other war, and sooner or later all these smiles and open boarders will come back
to bite us in the backside.

 

[china]

What makes all these flag waiving chinese posts even more disgusting is the fact that the person posting them claims to be a Canadian citizen yet all he has EVER done is bash Canada and put china out there as some kind of utopian paradise.




Ok, I expect to hear that china has now renounced his Canadian citizenship and has surrendered his Canadian Passport in favour of chinese citizenship and a chinese passport.

gerryh

EVER done is bash Canada and put china out there as some kind of utopian paradise.

grow up

 

[YukonJack]

china, how dare you label yourself a conservative?

How, as someone born in Poland, which was devastated, raped and thoroughly oppressed by Communits, defend the bastion of Communism, China, that has not got the decency to let the people of Taiwan live without the fear of constant threat and the people of Tibet who are under the jackboots of Chinese Communists thugs?

Have you no shame? Have you no decency? Have you no honour?

BTW, when you sucked up to your Communist masters while you lived in China, what was your salary/hourly wage? Simmilar to those who slave in the Communist sweat shops?

 

[Dexter Sinister]

My take on it: given what we know of China's disregard for human rights, occupational health and safety, environmental concerns, copyrights, and trademarks, I'd say that any nation that trades with China has a right to interfere in China's internal affairs. And China's protestation that "We never interfere in other's internal affairs" is simply false. A little work with Google will show you massive interference by China in many African states. Or you could just ask the Tibetans.

 

[Nuggler]

@Gerry:""Ok, I expect to hear that china has now renounced his Canadian citizenship and has surrendered his Canadian Passport in favour of chinese citizenship and a chinese passport.""

Hope springs eternal.

 

[Goober]

Western govts have 'no right to interfere' in China's affairs

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Updated: 2010-10-14 22:22

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BEIJING - China here Thursday questioned the intentions of foreign governments who supported the 2010 Nobel Peace Prize going to Liu Xiaobo, saying those governments had no right to interfere in China's internal affairs.
"What is the true intention of those foreign political figures and governments who support the granting of the Nobel Peace Prize to Mr. Liu Xiaobo? Is it because they resent China's development path and hate China's political system?" Chinese Foreign Ministry spokesman Ma Zhaoxu questioned.
Ma said at a regular news briefing that whether China had chosen the best way to more forward, both politically and socially, was best judged by the development reality in China, and the 1.3 billion Chinese people had the biggest say.
"China's affairs should be left to Chinese people themselves," Ma said, adding that the few biased individuals with the Norwegian Nobel Committee had no right to judge China, and western governments had no right to interfere in China's internal affairs.
"We never interfere in other's internal affairs, and will not allow others to interfere in ours," said Ma.
The Norwegian Nobel Committee awarded the 2010 Nobel Peace Prize to Liu Xiaobo on October 8th in Oslo, Norway. Liu was sentenced to 11 years in jail on December 25, 2009 after a local court in Beijing convicted him of agitation aimed at subverting the government.

China - Did I not tell you the water was polluted - that and long term exposure to toxic chemicals - Well plain to see the resulting impairment of critical thought.

 

[gerryh]

gerryh



grow up

best you can do? Still using a Canadian passport? Still claiming to be Canadian? Traitor.