Doctors group sets out vision for improving Canada's Health Care System

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TORONTO - Canada's largest doctors group has created a framework for overhauling the health-care system to make it more patient-centred, improve quality of care and increase efficiency.
In a policy document released Tuesday, the Canadian Medical Association called for a number of system-wide changes, including universal access to prescription drugs, incentives to shorten wait times and broader adoption of electronic health information technology.
The paper, entitled "Health Care Transformation in Canada: Change that Works. Care that Lasts," urges the public, Ottawa and the provincial and territorial governments to look beyond the "narrowly interpreted parameters" of the 1984 Canada Health Act to update medicare for the 21st century.
"Our system of publicly funded health care is founded on the promise that all Canadians will receive needed medical care when and where they need it," said CMA president Dr. Anne Doig. "Far too often, the promise falls short."
"The present system will not be able to meet future needs ... We need health care transformation and we need it now."
Doig said there is a need to identify and correct the "gaping holes in the continuum of care" that many Canadians experience while trying to navigate the health-care system.
Residents of every jurisdiction in the country should have equal access to prescription drugs, she said. "There is a patchwork of coverage available to Canadians in the various provinces and territories, ranging from fairly comprehensive coverage in the province of Quebec down to some of the other provinces, notably (in) Atlantic Canada, where there are quite serious deficiencies."
Another area that needs urgent attention is providing support for family members who care for loved ones who've been discharged from hospital following surgery or illness, as well as provision of non-hospital facilities for patients unable to care for themselves at home.
Though somewhat controversial, the CMA is also urging governments to provide incentives — financial and otherwise — to bolster the delivery of Canada's most cherished social program.
"The concept is to reward quality of care and efficiency of care," said Doig. "This is not about giving personal cash incentives to pay practitioners. This is about using system incentives ... so it encourages the caregivers collectively and the institution collectively to do a better job for patients."
The CMA also wants billions of dollars earmarked for strategies to shorten wait times to go beyond specific areas like cardiac care, cataract surgery and hip replacements.
"What we really need to do is look holistically at the system and say what are the impediments to access, regardless of whether we're talking about access to a primary-care physician ... engaging a specialist for consultation or sending the patient to have an advanced diagnostic or further down the road to that patient requiring definitive care."
Doig said Saskatchewan, for example, has been working on improving patient care at each step of the process from diagnosis to treatment through follow-up care.
"The whole point of this is to see this through the eyes of the patient," said Doig, a family practitioner who works in a multi-doctor clinic in Saskatoon. "What does it look like as a patient if I go to see my doctor with a tummy ache and how long does it take my family doctor to sort out the tummy ache and figure out if I need to see a gastroenterologist or have a scope done or see a surgeon?"
"That's what we're talking about, is trying to make this through the eyes of the patient as seamless, as continuous and as comprehensive as we can."
Electronic medical records, both in hospitals and in physicians' offices, would also improve the system, the CMA contends. However, many doctors have been slow to adopt e-health technology in their practices, primarily because current medical software does not fit their needs, said Doig.
"The issue here is finding technology that works," she said. "Probably the biggest impediment to uptake of electronic records ... (is) the focus on building the information superhighway," instead of targeting the point of care — the doctors themselves.
"The problem has been we tried in Canada to go top-down, and what we need to do is start at the bottom and build up from the base," said Doig, who believes current technology does not yet allow physicians to write prescriptions, order tests and enter results in patient charts with "minimal risk of error."
Still, Doig said any discussion about how Canada's medicare system should be reconfigured must begin with its end users.
"The point is to try to encourage Canadians to let go of some of the complacency and some of the attitude that they've had that 'We've got the best system in the world, so therefore we have to accept its shortcomings,'" said Doig.
"In fact, what we're telling you is we've got good care ... we've got good things and good people in our system. But we can do much better."
"And we need Canadians to tell us: What is it you don't like? What would you like to see done better?"
 

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TORONTO - Canada's largest doctors group has created a framework for overhauling the health-care system to make it more patient-centred, improve quality of care and increase efficiency.
In a policy document released Tuesday, the Canadian Medical Association called for a number of system-wide changes, including universal access to prescription drugs, incentives to shorten wait times and broader adoption of electronic health information technology.
The paper, entitled "Health Care Transformation in Canada: Change that Works. Care that Lasts," urges the public, Ottawa and the provincial and territorial governments to look beyond the "narrowly interpreted parameters" of the 1984 Canada Health Act to update medicare for the 21st century.
"Our system of publicly funded health care is founded on the promise that all Canadians will receive needed medical care when and where they need it," said CMA president Dr. Anne Doig. "Far too often, the promise falls short."
"The present system will not be able to meet future needs ... We need health care transformation and we need it now."
Doig said there is a need to identify and correct the "gaping holes in the continuum of care" that many Canadians experience while trying to navigate the health-care system.
Residents of every jurisdiction in the country should have equal access to prescription drugs, she said. "There is a patchwork of coverage available to Canadians in the various provinces and territories, ranging from fairly comprehensive coverage in the province of Quebec down to some of the other provinces, notably (in) Atlantic Canada, where there are quite serious deficiencies."
Another area that needs urgent attention is providing support for family members who care for loved ones who've been discharged from hospital following surgery or illness, as well as provision of non-hospital facilities for patients unable to care for themselves at home.
Though somewhat controversial, the CMA is also urging governments to provide incentives — financial and otherwise — to bolster the delivery of Canada's most cherished social program.
"The concept is to reward quality of care and efficiency of care," said Doig. "This is not about giving personal cash incentives to pay practitioners. This is about using system incentives ... so it encourages the caregivers collectively and the institution collectively to do a better job for patients."
The CMA also wants billions of dollars earmarked for strategies to shorten wait times to go beyond specific areas like cardiac care, cataract surgery and hip replacements.
"What we really need to do is look holistically at the system and say what are the impediments to access, regardless of whether we're talking about access to a primary-care physician ... engaging a specialist for consultation or sending the patient to have an advanced diagnostic or further down the road to that patient requiring definitive care."
Doig said Saskatchewan, for example, has been working on improving patient care at each step of the process from diagnosis to treatment through follow-up care.
"The whole point of this is to see this through the eyes of the patient," said Doig, a family practitioner who works in a multi-doctor clinic in Saskatoon. "What does it look like as a patient if I go to see my doctor with a tummy ache and how long does it take my family doctor to sort out the tummy ache and figure out if I need to see a gastroenterologist or have a scope done or see a surgeon?"
"That's what we're talking about, is trying to make this through the eyes of the patient as seamless, as continuous and as comprehensive as we can."
Electronic medical records, both in hospitals and in physicians' offices, would also improve the system, the CMA contends. However, many doctors have been slow to adopt e-health technology in their practices, primarily because current medical software does not fit their needs, said Doig.
"The issue here is finding technology that works," she said. "Probably the biggest impediment to uptake of electronic records ... (is) the focus on building the information superhighway," instead of targeting the point of care — the doctors themselves.
"The problem has been we tried in Canada to go top-down, and what we need to do is start at the bottom and build up from the base," said Doig, who believes current technology does not yet allow physicians to write prescriptions, order tests and enter results in patient charts with "minimal risk of error."
Still, Doig said any discussion about how Canada's medicare system should be reconfigured must begin with its end users.
"The point is to try to encourage Canadians to let go of some of the complacency and some of the attitude that they've had that 'We've got the best system in the world, so therefore we have to accept its shortcomings,'" said Doig.
"In fact, what we're telling you is we've got good care ... we've got good things and good people in our system. But we can do much better."
"And we need Canadians to tell us: What is it you don't like? What would you like to see done better?"
Canada's geography makes it very difficult to provide the same medical care in small towns that are miles
from a major center. Doctors and medical services require a certain minimum population base to justify their
existence. It's a good bet that Spuzzum B.C. hasn't got a doctor and the nearest larger town,Hope B.C., probably doesn't
have a specialist.
 

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I like universal drug coverage and more efficient filing systems.

I'd like to see more Nurse practitioners. Many Canadians don't have family physicians, and rely on outpatient services. Hire more NP's for less money, though I can understand why an association of Doctors wouldn't be calling for more NP's.
 

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I see a few points that make sense, such as electronic health records and the creation of a nationwide pharmacare program. A phamacare program is long overdue and given the buying power of the federal government if such a program was used it should lower drug prices significantly, provided it is properly instituted.

I do have one caveat to add to electronic records. This should be a government program and not left to private contractors. When my last doctor retired from the clinic where he worked he sold my medical records to a private firm. I received a letter from this firm stating that I could have my medical records sent to me or my next doctor, but only if I forked over $80.00. Since I am not completely senile I ignored the letter and simply informed my new doctor of my medical well-being.
 

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TORONTO - "The whole point of this is to see this through the eyes of the patient," said Doig, a family practitioner who works in a multi-doctor clinic in Saskatoon. "What does it look like as a patient if I go to see my doctor with a tummy ache and how long does it take my family doctor to sort out the tummy ache and figure out if I need to see a gastroenterologist or have a scope done or see a surgeon?"
"And we need Canadians to tell us: What is it you don't like? What would you like to see done better?"

Hi VanIsle, I think the secret to solving the biggest part of the problem lies buried in the middle of your long post................................"if I go to see my doctor with a tummy ache.................." First thing you don't do is go to see your doctor with a tummy ache unless you've had the tummy ache at least 6 days. 99.9% of tummy aches clear up on their own. Don't get me wrong...........I'm not talking excruciating pain (in which case you would go to the doctor lickity split) What I'm referring to here is the doctors aren't going to fix the system- they can't- they have to see everyone who goes to them, but the patients can, first by using a little common sense and secondly by taking responsibility for their own health. Eventually we are going to reach the point they did in Oregon where there is a list of ailments that are covered and a list you pay for yourself. For instance the day might come where if you are a drinker and you come down with a bout of cirrosis of the liver you may be S.O.L. :smile:
 

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TORONTO - Canada's largest doctors group has created a framework for overhauling the health-care system to make it more patient-centred, improve quality of care and increase efficiency.
In a policy document released Tuesday, the Canadian Medical Association called for a number of system-wide changes, including universal access to prescription drugs, incentives to shorten wait times and broader adoption of electronic health information technology.
"And we need Canadians to tell us: What is it you don't like? What would you like to see done better?"
It's about time someone did something. Our gov'ts obviously are pretty inept at doing something effective about it.
What to do better? Quit making perfectly good physicians from other countries look for jobs driving taxis and delivering pizzas. Can the f'n bureaucracy holding everything up.

Canada's geography makes it very difficult to provide the same medical care in small towns that are miles
from a major center. Doctors and medical services require a certain minimum population base to justify their
existence. It's a good bet that Spuzzum B.C. hasn't got a doctor and the nearest larger town,Hope B.C., probably doesn't
have a specialist.
Then close all the outlying hospitals, buy a lot more air ambulances, build landing strips for them, and start making space for more cemetaries. Or else can this dimwitted illusion of single-payer health care and let people get insurance and care wherever they want.

I like universal drug coverage and more efficient filing systems.

I'd like to see more Nurse practitioners. Many Canadians don't have family physicians, and rely on outpatient services. Hire more NP's for less money, though I can understand why an association of Doctors wouldn't be calling for more NP's.
Bump.

I see a few points that make sense, such as electronic health records and the creation of a nationwide pharmacare program. A phamacare program is long overdue and given the buying power of the federal government if such a program was used it should lower drug prices significantly, provided it is properly instituted.

I do have one caveat to add to electronic records. This should be a government program and not left to private contractors. When my last doctor retired from the clinic where he worked he sold my medical records to a private firm. I received a letter from this firm stating that I could have my medical records sent to me or my next doctor, but only if I forked over $80.00. Since I am not completely senile I ignored the letter and simply informed my new doctor of my medical well-being.
lol Good for you, Bar. :D

Hi VanIsle, I think the secret to solving the biggest part of the problem lies buried in the middle of your long post................................"if I go to see my doctor with a tummy ache.................." First thing you don't do is go to see your doctor with a tummy ache unless you've had the tummy ache at least 6 days. 99.9% of tummy aches clear up on their own. Don't get me wrong...........I'm not talking excruciating pain (in which case you would go to the doctor lickity split) What I'm referring to here is the doctors aren't going to fix the system- they can't- they have to see everyone who goes to them, but the patients can, first by using a little common sense and secondly by taking responsibility for their own health. Eventually we are going to reach the point they did in Oregon where there is a list of ailments that are covered and a list you pay for yourself. For instance the day might come where if you are a drinker and you come down with a bout of cirrosis of the liver you may be S.O.L. :smile:
Appendicitis = tummy ache. Can you afford to wait 6 days? That's just one condition. Tummy aches vary. If one is in doubt, phone an ER and tell them what is going on. They'll let you know if you should see a doc, see them, or take an ant-acid.
 

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Islamic beasts slaughter
eye doctors on aid mission


Afghan medical mission ends in death for 10
KABUL, Afghanistan – They hiked for more than 10 hours over rugged mountains — unarmed and without security — to bring medical care to isolated Afghan villagers until their humanitarian mission took a tragic turn.
Ten members of the Christian medical team — six Americans, two Afghans, one German and a Briton — were gunned down in a gruesome slaughter that the Taliban said they carried out, alleging the volunteers were spying and trying to convert Muslims to Christianity. The gunmen spared an Afghan driver, who recited verses from the Islamic holy book Quran as he begged for his life.
Afghan medical mission ends in death for 10 - Yahoo! News

 

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Interestingly enough it is the doctors old boy club that is a large part of the problem. By limiting the entrance of foreign trained doctors we have an artificial shortage.
Being encouraged to see your doctor regularly when there is nothing wrong creates patient overload.
Until recently doctors had an aversion to Nurse Practitioners and Mid wives and still have a hate for Naturopaths.
Doctors are far too quick to prescribe pills which Big Pharma gives them a kickback to promote instead of doing a little checking of their patients. Remember a cured patient is not a repeat customer while one that has to be maintained on pills is good for the bottom line. They are also the only ones in the repair business that do not do warranty work. If the first little magic pill does not work they simply prescribe another and bill you for the second visit, all without really talking to the patient.
As JLM said the time is coming where those that deliberately abuse their body are going to be SOL when they require expensive treatment that the free medical system can no longer afford to pay for. A preemptive strike on unhealthy living will go a long way to cutting health care costs.
Then we come to the huge administration costs where bureaucrats eat up a sizable portion of scarce health care dollars with little to show for it other than lots of big paycheques for themselves.
 

JLM

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Appendicitis = tummy ache. Can you afford to wait 6 days? That's just one condition. Tummy aches vary. If one is in doubt, phone an ER and tell them what is going on. They'll let you know if you should see a doc, see them, or take an ant-acid.

Appendicitis isn't dangerous until it has progressed well beyong a "tummy ache". Pain is intense and steady and gets worse when you walk or talk. You have loss of appetite, nausea, vomiting and onstipation, fever and chills.

B.C. Health Dept. issues a handbook that you should refer to when in doubt before running to the doc or E.R. with the sniffles or hangnail.