Cannabinoids Kill Cancer and Our Government Has Known for 36 Years


Stretch
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Cannabinoids Kill Cancer and Our Government Has Known for 36 Years


Friday, 30 July 2010 09:14



'The article describes how cannabinoids, the active components of marijuana, inhibit tumor growth in laboratory animals and also kill cancer cells. Then it finishes off by saying that the US government has known for more than 35 years and that the media which would normally go crazy about a cancer cure story like this, doesn’t at all and in fact seem to be burying the story rather than promote it in any way. I for one am amazed at the government’s stance on marijuana and their failed war on drugs, which is more like a war on it’s own country. I guess too many people get rich off of the war on drugs.'
Read more: Cannabinoids Kill Cancer and Our Government Has Known for 36 Years (external - login to view)
 
AnnaG
#2
Misinformation.
The study says it inhibits cancer growth but does NOT say kills cancer cells.

Quote:

Abstract

Cannabinoids - the active components of Cannabis sativa and their derivatives - exert palliative effects in cancer patients by preventing nausea, vomiting and pain and by stimulating appetite. In addition, these compounds have been shown to inhibit the growth of tumour cells in culture and animal models by modulating key cell-signalling pathways. Cannabinoids are usually well tolerated, and do not produce the generalized toxic effects of conventional chemotherapies.

 
karrie
#3
I know plenty of pot smokers who've come down with cancer (breast, brain, and bone to name three people I know), so, until there are some more concrete studies showing exactly HOW to cure cancer in a human via pot, I've taken the news articles on the subject, which didn't seem very secret to me, in the same light as I've taken the article about a vaccination for HIV. Hopeful, but, impossible to apply quite yet.
 
AnnaG
#4
It isn't a cure, it's an inhibitor.
 
petros
#5
Smokers do indeed get cancers yes but to use the true medicinal way it's is to be ingested using seeded flowers and ground to an oily paste.

It has been a key part our medicine chest and diet for 10s of thousands of years until just recently.
 
karrie
#6
Quote: Originally Posted by AnnaGView Post

It isn't a cure, it's an inhibitor.

I've heard both in articles about it. The article Stretch has linked to here has a doc claiming the inhibitor nature KILLS tumours. Either way, the usage in humans doesn't seem to work at 'smoke' level, so, how to use it properly to kill off or even inhibit cancer is something that needs more research, and that they don't seem to be 'hiding'. If they are, they're not hiding it very well.
 
AnnaG
#7
Quote: Originally Posted by karrieView Post

I've heard both in articles about it.

I have, too, but I usually track down the abstract to the actual study to see what it really does say because I know that after a report is published, the spinning and twisting starts.
Quote:

The article Stretch has linked to here has a doc claiming the inhibitor nature KILLS tumours.

So I went to the abstract of the actual study to see if that's what it says and it said nothing about killing cancer cells. That is why I said, "misinformation".
Quote:

Either way, the usage in humans doesn't seem to work at 'smoke' level, so, how to use it properly to kill off or even inhibit cancer is something that needs more research, and that they don't seem to be 'hiding'. If they are, they're not hiding it very well.

There are several methods for introducing a medicine to the body, I agree.
Smoking pot to inhibit cancer growth seems kind of stupid to me when it's been shown that smoke contains cancer causing agents. So this just makes me think that pot-smokers feel guilty about smoking it and are looking for something to rationalise smoking it.

Forgot to post the source of the study's abstract. Sorry ......
Cannabinoids: potential anticancer agents. [Nat Rev Cancer. 2003] - PubMed result
 
Cliffy
#8
Petros is correct. Cannabis should be ingested, not smoked for its full medicinal benefits. Cannabis oil is the most effective way to treat many diseases including cancer. This information has been available for a long time and can easily be found if one were so inclined. Misinformation can also easily be found if one sets out to disprove the medicinal effects.
 
AnnaG
#9
Quote: Originally Posted by CliffyView Post

Petros is correct. Cannabis should be ingested, not smoked for its full medicinal benefits. Cannabis oil is the most effective way to treat many diseases including cancer. This information has been available for a long time and can easily be found if one were so inclined. Misinformation can also easily be found if one sets out to disprove the medicinal effects.

Yup. Too much misinformation wandering around. But it is easy to catch, just takes a few moments of digging for the correct info one can use to squash the hearsay.
 
Risus
#10
Some people are so gullible they will believe anything. P.T. Barnum was correct...
 
Stretch
#11
'Cannabis gave me my life back' (external - login to view)

By: malterwitty
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Agonising migraines had put Marie Summers in a 'prison of pain', until she overcame inhibitions about using an illegal drug. The result seemed like a miracle
 
AnnaG
#12
Yup. Lots of rationalising. Why not just smoke it and accept that you smoke against the law? Why the need to rationalise smoking it? Why the need to distort facts about it by claiming it cures cancer?
 
YukonJack
#13
For years I had horrible shoulder pains. Tried T3, Naproxen followed by Dilaudil.

Until a rheumatologist prescribed Sulfasalazine, which got me totally pain-free.

Smoking dope? Never occured to me. It's only for dopes.
 
Stretch
#14
Quote: Originally Posted by YukonJackView Post

For years I had horrible shoulder pains. Tried T3, Naproxen followed by Dilaudil.

Until a rheumatologist prescribed Sulfasalazine, which got me totally pain-free.

Smoking dope? Never occured to me. It's only for dopes.

you only say that because of what you read/heard about it via the media.

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SULFASALAZINE - ORAL (Azulfidine) side effects, medical uses, and drug interactions. (external - login to view)

Carcinogenesis, Mutagenesis, Impairment of Fertility

Two-year oral carcinogenicity studies were conducted in male and female F344/N rats and B6C3F1 mice. Sulfasalazine was tested at 84 (496 mg/m2), 168 (991 mg/m2), and 337.5 (1991 mg/m2) mg/kg/day doses in rats. A statistically significant increase in the incidence of urinary bladder transitional cell papillomas was observed in male rats. In female rats, two (4%) of the 337.5 mg/kg rats had transitional cell papilloma of the kidney. The increased incidence of neoplasms in the urinary bladder and kidney of rats was also associated with an increase in the renal calculi formation and hyperplasia of transitional cell epithelium. For the mouse study, Sulfasalazine was tested at 675 (2025 mg/m2), 1350 (4050 mg/m2), and 2700 (8100 mg/m2) mg/kg/day. The incidence of hepatocellular adenoma or carcinoma in male and female mice was significantly greater than the control at all doses tested.
Sulfasalazine did not show mutagenicity in the bacterial reverse mutation assay (Ames test) and in L51784 mouse lymphoma cell assay at the HGPRT gene. However, Sulfasalazine showed equivocal mutagenic response in the micronucleus assay of mouse and rat bone marrow and mouse peripheral RBC and in the sister chromatid exchange, chromosomal aberration, and micronucleus assays in lymphocytes obtained from humans.
Impairment of male fertility was observed in reproductive studies performed in rats at a dose of 800 mg/kg/day (4800 mg/m2). Oligospermia and infertility have been described in men treated with Sulfasalazine. Withdrawal of the drug appears to reverse these effects.
Read more: Sulfasalazine Official FDA information, side effects and uses. (external - login to view)

I know which I'd prefer to take for pain relief and it wouldnt be some concoction created in a lab. I prefer the natural way myself and to date havent noticed any side effects................
Last edited by Stretch; Aug 3rd, 2010 at 06:31 PM..
 
petros
#15
Pssssssssst. There is no such thing as side effects....they are all direct effects.
 
YukonJack
#16
Strech, your fame for stabbing the hand that potentially is the only one that can save you is legendary, and needless to say, totally self-impopsed.

In your incredible impertinance you try to tell me what I felt and how I felt after taking Sulfasalazine.

No surprise, though. People like you, who have nothing to offer but hate, contempt and denigration for the people/company who would be there for you, when your unscientific view of the Pharmaceutical industry.

You and your ilk refuse to believe that different drugs have different side effects for different people. You dare to call me a liar - though in not as many words - when I claimed, in total truth that Sulfasalazine helped me.

I sincerely hope that you will never have to rely on a Pharmaceutical Company to help you out of your misery. And even more sincerely I hope that they will tell you go F..k yourself.
 
petros
#17
Quote:

You and your ilk refuse to believe that different drugs have different side effects for different people. You dare to call me a liar - though in not as many words - when I claimed, in total truth that Sulfasalazine helped me.

So what's your excuse then?
 
YukonJack
#18
petros, get a life already!

What excuse do I need to say that a legally and scientifically developed drug helped me to the extent that whereas I used to suffer 24/7, I am now pain-free?

Being contrary just for the sake of being contrary is a definite indication of a weak mind.
 
Stretch
#19
Quote: Originally Posted by YukonJackView Post

Strech, your fame for stabbing the hand that potentially is the only one that can save you is legendary, and needless to say, totally self-impopsed.

In your incredible impertinance you try to tell me what I felt and how I felt after taking Sulfasalazine.

No surprise, though. People like you, who have nothing to offer but hate, contempt and denigration for the people/company who would be there for you, when your unscientific view of the Pharmaceutical industry.

You and your ilk refuse to believe that different drugs have different side effects for different people. You dare to call me a liar - though in not as many words - when I claimed, in total truth that Sulfasalazine helped me.

I sincerely hope that you will never have to rely on a Pharmaceutical Company to help you out of your misery. And even more sincerely I hope that they will tell you go F..k yourself.

was just passing on some info re Sulfasalazine mate, do what you wish with it.
when and where have I ever offered hate or denigrated anyone as you put it???
I have a different view of things, thats all, be a boring old world if we all held the same view.
I'm the 1st one to say to big pharma, dont lump us all together we are all differnet and have different reactions to things....but they dont look at us like that.
I would NEVER call anyone a liar mate, you dont know me very well do you.
Thats a nice attitude mate, thanx for your concern, I'm glad that Sulfasalazine works for you and sincerely hope that you dont suffer any side effects from it.
 
YukonJack
#20
Well, MATE, if I had ever seen a single post from you that was positive, I would have never posted what I posted.

You are a champion of hate and negativism.
 
Stretch
#21
Quote: Originally Posted by YukonJackView Post

Well, MATE, if I had ever seen a single post from you that was positive, I would have never posted what I posted.

You are a champion of hate and negativism.

I look at it this way, once again, here, I have a different view, but me passing on different info via CC and making people aware of whats going on out there is positive.....just my thorts
 
petros
#22
Quote: Originally Posted by YukonJackView Post

petros, get a life already!

What excuse do I need to say that a legally and scientifically developed drug helped me to the extent that whereas I used to suffer 24/7, I am now pain-free?

Being contrary just for the sake of being contrary is a definite indication of a weak mind.

God didn't know what the hell he was doing when he gave us plants for medicine?
 
JLM
#23
Quote: Originally Posted by karrieView Post

I know plenty of pot smokers who've come down with cancer (breast, brain, and bone to name three people I know), so, until there are some more concrete studies showing exactly HOW to cure cancer in a human via pot, I've taken the news articles on the subject, which didn't seem very secret to me, in the same light as I've taken the article about a vaccination for HIV. Hopeful, but, impossible to apply quite yet.

Yep, there are lots of variables, to start with "cancer" includes about 100 diseases and every person reacts to each of those 100 diseases a little differently. A cancer that may kill you at age 40, you may live quite well with at age 70. Cancer of the breast is now quite curable in many cases yet treating cancer of the pancreas the same way won't touch it. So until I hear that canibus cures all these 100 diseases in all patients I would state canibus is not a cure. I would however hazard a guess that most cancers are preventable to a degree by certain lifestyles. I also have a theory of my own that the better a person is at processing oxygen, the healthier they will be over all, as I think oxygen is the main ingredient of life.
 
Cliffy
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Quote: Originally Posted by JLMView Post

Yep, there are lots of variables, to start with "cancer" includes about 100 diseases and every person reacts to each of those 100 diseases a little differently. A cancer that may kill you at age 40, you may live quite well with at age 70. Cancer of the breast is now quite curable in many cases yet treating cancer of the pancreas the same way won't touch it. So until I hear that canibus cures all these 100 diseases in all patients I would state canibus is not a cure. I would however hazard a guess that most cancers are preventable to a degree by certain lifestyles. I also have a theory of my own that the better a person is at processing oxygen, the healthier they will be over all, as I think oxygen is the main ingredient of life.

Do you remember the old saying that anger will eat you up inside? Many cancers are cause by pent up anger and rage. Without dealing with that anger, cancer will often return. Pot does calm the nerves and help some people change their attitudes. I say that it much more important what you think than what you eat.
 
JLM
#25
Quote: Originally Posted by CliffyView Post

Do you remember the old saying that anger will eat you up inside? Many cancers are cause by pent up anger and rage. Without dealing with that anger, cancer will often return. Pot does calm the nerves and help some people change their attitudes. I say that it much more important what you think than what you eat.

I don't disagree with that in the least. But canibus is only one agent to calm the nerves, another person might accomplish the same thing by going down to a stream with his fishing rod, so I'd be inclined to call it a "tool" rather than a cure.
 
Stretch
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The Marijuana Conspiracy: The Reason Hemp Is Illegal (external - login to view)


Friday, 27 August 2010 08:48



'They say marijuana is dangerous. Pot is not harmful to the human body or mind. Marijuana does not pose a threat to the general public. Marijuana is very much a danger to the oil companies, alcohol, tobacco industries and a large number of chemical corporations. Big businesses, with plenty of dollars and influence, have suppressed the truth from the people.
The truth is, if marijuana was utilized for its vast array of commercial products, it would create an industrial atomic bomb! The super rich have conspired to spread misinformation about the plant that, if used properly, would ruin their companies.'
Read more: The Marijuana Conspiracy: The Reason Hemp Is Illegal (external - login to view)
 
Stretch
#27

YouTube - The War on Drugs What a Joke MUST-SEE VIDEO

 
Cliffy
#28
Makes ya wonder why a country that spend billions in a war against pot, has spent billions in Afghanistan to protect and proliferate their poppy crops. Something is seriously wrong in the west, and it ain't the drugs problem.
 
Stretch
#29
Quote: Originally Posted by CliffyView Post

Makes ya wonder why a country that spend billions in a war against pot, has spent billions in Afghanistan to protect and proliferate their poppy crops. Something is seriously wrong in the west, and it ain't the drugs problem.

yeah, its called greed
 
karrie
#30
I was at a dinner party the other night with two real estate agents, a social worker, two business owners, and a stay at home mom... all who smoke pot. Seriously, why the government even bothers.

oh, and I forgot a friend who works at the Legislature.
 

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