Feds Ignore Due Process, First Amendment, Shut Down Thousands of Blogs

petros

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Once again, the Obama administration has violated the Bill of Rights. Earlier this month, the feds took down a free Wordpress blogging platform and disabled more than 73,000 blogs. The action was completely ignored by the corporate media. The site, Blogetery.com, was told by its hosting service that the government had issued orders to shut down the site due to a “a history of abuse” related to copyrighted material.
U.S. Intellectual Property Enforcement Coordinator Victoria Espinel and Vice President Joseph Biden introduce the government’s intellectual property enforcement strategy in June.

In late June, Joe Biden and Intellectual Property Enforcement Coordinator Victoria Espinel said the government would move to take down sites offering unauthorized movies and music. “Criminal copyright infringement occurs on a massive scale over the Internet, reportedly resulting in billions of dollars in losses to the U.S. economy,” said Preet Bharara, the U.S. Attorney for the Southern District of New York. Bharara’s office and the U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement launched “Operation In Our Sites” and executed seizure warrants against nine domain names.
Blogetery.com claimed the shut down of 73,000 blogs “was not a typical case, in which suspension and notification would be the norm. This was a critical matter brought to our attention by law enforcement officials. We had to immediately remove the server.”

“That seems odd,” notes Techdirt, a website that covers government policy, technology and legal issues. “If there was problematic content from some users, why not just take down that content or suspend those users. Taking down all 73,000 blogs seems… excessive.”

The DMCA’s takedown actions are a direct violation of the First Amendment under prior restraint. However, explains law professor Wendy Seltzer, because “DMCA takedowns are privately administered through ISPs… they have not received… constitutional scrutiny, despite their high risk of error.” Seltzer adds that “because DMCA takedown costs less to copyright claimants than a federal complaint and exposes claimants to few risks, it invites more frequent abuse or error than standard copyright law.”

TorrentFreak worries that the Blogetery.com case has set a precedent. “Fears remain… that this action is only the beginning, and that more sites will be targeted as the months roll on. Indeed, TorrentFreak has already received information that other sites, so far unnamed in the media, are being monitored by the authorities on copyright grounds,” writes a blogger on the site.

They say it’s because of copyright infringement, but is it really?… it would seem that only sites/blogs which were streaming movies and TV shows were shut down initially, but upon further perusal, it seems like the Feds just arbitrarily shut down a server with several tens of thousands of bloggers on it without due process as is usual with this administration,” writes Smash Mouth Politics. “How soon before they find some reason to shut down other servers or networks? What’s probably infuriating to the bloggers who were shut down is that they have no recourse. They have no idea why the server was shut down. And the Feds are mum about it. Also, if the bloggers can even get a hold of the server admin, they’re refused any explanation of why.”

In October, 2004, more than 20 Independent Media Center websites and other internet services were taken offline, not in response to alleged copyright infringement but for political reasons. The disappearance of the Indymedia servers was shrouded in secrecy and the ISP and government would not provide an explanation. On October 20, 2004, the Electronic Frontier Foundation filed a lawsuit in Texas and argued that “the public and the press have a clear and compelling interest in discovering under what authority the government was able to unilaterally prevent Internet publishers from exercising their First Amendment rights.”
It was later discovered that the ISP had shut down IndyMedia’s websites after they were contacted by the FBI. The FBI said a particular article on the website nantes.indymedia.org contained personal information and threats regarding two Swiss undercover police officers. It was later determined that the article contained neither threats nor names or address information and contained instead photographs of police agents provocateurs masquerading as anti-globalization protesters.

The Obama administration — in step with he Bush administration before it — does not have a problem ordering the government to violate the First, Fifth, and Tenth Amendments. In its declared effort to prevent online piracy of copyrighted material, the government has trashed the Bill of Rights. It has used the FBI and the Department of Homeland Security to intimidate ISPs to shut down web sites.
In June, a Senate committee approved a dictatorial cybersecurity bill that would allow Obama to shut down the internet. The bill, known as the Protecting

Cyberspace as a National Asset Act, would grant Obama the authority to carry out emergency actions to protect critical parts of the internet, including ordering owners of critical infrastructure to implement emergency response plans, during a government declared cyber-emergency. Obama would supposedly need congressional approval to extend a national cyber-emergency beyond 120 days under an amendment to the legislation approved by the committee.
 

Cliffy

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Well, well! So perhaps the conspiracy freaks have been right all along and it has been those who have accused them of wearing foil hats who have been wearing foil hats after all. Does any of this really surprise anybody? Obama cow tows to the same masters Bush did like I have been saying all along.
 

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They say it’s because of copyright infringement, but is it really?… it would seem that only sites/blogs which were streaming movies and TV shows were shut down initially, but upon further perusal, it seems like the Feds just arbitrarily shut down a server with several tens of thousands of bloggers on it without due process as is usual with this administration,” writes Smash Mouth Politics. “How soon before they find some reason to shut down other servers or networks? What’s probably infuriating to the bloggers who were shut down is that they have no recourse. They have no idea why the server was shut down. And the Feds are mum about it. Also, if the bloggers can even get a hold of the server admin, they’re refused any explanation of why.”

Do these bloggers pay the site to blog?

If the answer is no, then they don't need an explanation and the situation only matters between the private business being shut down, and the government who's shutting them down.

It'd be no different then the government, for whatever reason, contacting the owners of this site and forcing them to shut down..... sure you as a member may feel you deserve an explanation or a warning, or a chance to save some of your comments/posts...... but in reality, you don't.

I've had it happen in a forum I used to venture into..... it had nothing to do with the government, but an artists not liking how a fan site was being conducted or what was being said (lack of decent moderation if you will) and basically forced the site to shut down.

I came in one day and every single post was wiped without warning and all that remained was one thread/post with a brief description on what was going on, which really didn't explain anything.

If these sites are prone to copyright infringements and people constantly uploading or sharing music, videos, etc. in an illegal manner, then if it's been going on for quite some time and by a large number of members, then the owners of that site have a responsibility for what's going on on their own site.... if they can not keep it under control, then they could be forced to shut down the entire site, rather then just a section.

In October, 2004, more than 20 Independent Media Center websites and other internet services were taken offline, not in response to alleged copyright infringement but for political reasons.

And they can make this claim, based on what?

The disappearance of the Indymedia servers was shrouded in secrecy and the ISP and government would not provide an explanation.

They don't have to provide an explanation.

On October 20, 2004, the Electronic Frontier Foundation filed a lawsuit in Texas and argued that “the public and the press have a clear and compelling interest in discovering under what authority the government was able to unilaterally prevent Internet publishers from exercising their First Amendment rights.”

Two Words: Patriot Act.

Secondly, since when have the public and the press ever desired to follow every single incident, every single company shut down, every single legal process involving these types of companies? Companies, especially internet companies come and go for many various reasons, every single day, sometimes involving government action.

Does the above mean that rather then the government regulating these sites and enforcing the law like they're supposed to, that they now have to relay every single move and action they take to the public and press and then ask permission from the press and public to do what they're supposed to do?

It was later discovered that the ISP had shut down IndyMedia’s websites after they were contacted by the FBI. The FBI said a particular article on the website nantes.indymedia.org contained personal information and threats regarding two Swiss undercover police officers. It was later determined that the article contained neither threats nor names or address information and contained instead photographs of police agents provocateurs masquerading as anti-globalization protesters.

Well if the site is shut down due to those above reasons..... then how could it be "Later Determined" the reasons/truth was not the above case, but in fact something totally different..... if afterall, the site was shut down?

Where is the valid evidence to claim it was later determined to be for other reasons?

Did someone decide to save the thread on their computer for later review? If they did, then what is the date of that file's creation and is there a possibility that that file could have been tampered with after the fact?

I don't see much to worry about and due to the many claims of evidence countering official explanations which that evidence doesn't seem to be very forth-coming in the report (Sources, etc.) this to me just sounds like more conspiracy head thumping blowing a situation way out of proportion and digging out more then what really is there.
 

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So all of you are in favor of stealing someone else's work and profits. This is not a free speech issue. There is nothing wrong with taking down sites offering unauthorized movies and music. “Criminal copyright infringement occurs on a massive scale over the Internet, reportedly resulting in billions of dollars in losses to the U.S. economy,” to quote Victoris Espinel.

It is not a right to steal.




Now that has been said, they closed a good movie group in England (Unlimited Newhosting" dang it.)
 
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petros

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“Criminal copyright infringement occurs on a massive scale over the Internet, reportedly resulting in billions of dollars in losses to the U.S. economy,” to quote Victoris Espinel.
Loss to who? I could see if it were perfect uncompressed material. Quality wise is similar to digital station on cable which is recordable and free too.
 

Praxius

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Loss to who? I could see if it were perfect uncompressed material. Quality wise is similar to digital station on cable which is recordable and free too.

If I download a music album, a movie or a tv show without paying for them, without paying for a cable subscription, etc..... then I will normally watch that show or movie once and delete it, never watching it again for years..... but if I do wish to again, I just re-download it for free..... same with the album in Mp3 format.

I watch or listen to their hard work, I don't pay them for anything, they get no profit..... thus a loss to the creators and the companies who help them out with their creations.

It doesn't matter if what you get is perfect full quality.... some people are just happy downloading theatre cam rips, watching them once through all their imperfections and then moving on..... they never paid the 15-20 bucks to watch it in the theatre..... and since most can download decently quality DVD/Blueray rips a week or two before the actual DVD/Blueray is released in stores, there's another 20-30 bucks lost........

Multiply that by hundreds or even thousands of people..... maybe even a couple of million people worldwide and you can see just how much of an impact it can have, especially on businesses and artists who aren't making much profit in the first place.

Now I can't openly admit that I'm against piracy as in some aspects it can help out certain artists and companies by spreading their material viral across the internet, thus more people know about your work, thus more people are interested in your work, thus a possible increase in people around the world possibly contributing to your efforts by later purchasing your work because they respect or appreciate what you do...... but when it comes to the laws....... these sites are still breaking them, thus the government has every right to shut them down if they so choose, regardless if those sites attached a blog or forum section to cover their actions.
 

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Sorry, but you do not have the freedom to use copyrighted material on the Internet, or anywhere else. If a website does this, or allows their patrons to do this, it is 100% right that it be shut down.

This has nothing to do with freedom of speech, it has to do with using the words of others and not paying them for that use.