Quote: Originally Posted by dumpthemonarchy
I read the article, it started off about equality and old treaties when they are applied to every actions, outside of govt, are a problem.
Those old treaties, are still as powerful today as the day the were written. This is evident by your use of the land ceded. If you wish to rewrite history, you must include your place in it. Not simply somebody else's.
Oka is in Quebec, and Quebec uses Oka to bolster its idea as a separate society-but still wants large amounts of money from the rest of Canada. And our weak politicians let it happen to appease Quebec and anyone else.
That's true, and I completely agree on the Fed vs Quebec. If Quebec were to try that same silly sh!t today. I can guarantee you, that due to the criminal element you highlight in your OP. The outcome would be far more bloody.
It was a standoff because the govt of Quebec was dumb, and there was no need to escalate the standoff. And Quebec is weak on these matters. Aboriginals have rights, I never said they don't, but they come from documents that are quite old and from another reality.
Another reality? Would that be the same reality that the majority of Canadians enjoy today on land ceded from those Treaties? I don't see how the use of lands ceded from those old Treaties is somehow no longer reality, when the fruits are still being enjoyed by one of the parties to the Treaty.
When the British made treaties and Canada took them over, things changed. I need not honour a contract in a new world and by people I need a passport to get to their country-England.
Unfortunately, you do. Under International and Domestic Law. You seem to want to hold us Natives to account under the Law, while you argue to dismiss an International and Domestic Law that merely suits your whims. Is that hypocrisy or greed?
Canada does not need to be forced by anyone to give aboriginals passports.
So you think. The sad reality is that The Dominion of Canada acted illegally, thus forcing the Haudenosaunee to be dependent on certain Federally provided institutions and services. You have no one to blame but Canada for that. If they had not illegally blocked our procession to the League of Nations. The Haudenosaunee would be a sovereign country, and you would be having a much different conversation with someone else. Your anger and contempt is misplaced.
They live in Canada, follow the laws, and need a passport to leave, a right all people have in the country. Nothing special there.
Agreed. So what's you beef? Can't have your cake and eat it too? I don't follow you.