Re: Harper stands firm on human rights in chinaDec 24th, 2009
Would a Chinese immigrant care to jump in and give us the lodown
Not really there's 1.4B of them many are uneducated illiterates who's biggest concern is living day to day, a country half way around the world probably has little interest to them unless its the USA.
Would a Chinese immigrant care to jump in and give us the lodown
The evidence is pretty overwhelming now that the Harper government was well aware that Afghan's picked up by Canadian soldiers and turned over to local authorities were routinely abused/tortured.
The Harper government has an obligation to intervene on behalf of all Canadians abused and tortured in foreign prisons including 15 year old child soldier Omar Khadr.
China isn't our enemy. Most of their attention is focused inward like the US. Most Chinese barely know about Canada's existence. The little they do know about Canada seems related to Dr. Bethune.
Any civil war or famine in China could easily result in millions of deaths. As a result they are cautious about instituting major reforms or radical change. They tried that in the 1950's and 60's to catastrophic results.
The United States of America is our closest ally, a free nation, one of the best nations on earth.....as shown by the rating cited below. China is an emerging fascist super-power.........it is the fourth worst human rights abuser on earth. There will be an entity that projects its values, its way of life, and its military power far outside its own borders, there will be a dominant power in the world, and that power will express itself in the way of life of all the world's people. So it ha been since Alexander the Great, born in 357 BC
Yes we are very close to the US geographically and in time we can hopefully build an unbridgeable distance in time and space between that rotten hole and our hopefully salvageable remnant of democracy. America is the premier failed state a bond slave of the BIS it will never be free again, ever. The next decade will see it broken and dissolved by protracted bloody civil war according to the bankers plan. The Americans are many trillions of dollars in debt. How anyone gets free from that is a mystery. Alexander the Grape was not born in 357 BC.
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My son has been living in Shanghai China for over a year and just came back for the holidays. If I hadn't told him that Harper was in Shanghai, he wouldn't have known. In fact few of the 16 million people living in Shanghai were aware of Harper's visit or who he is.
In the overall scheme of what's important in China, Canada isn't very high on the list. If you traveled there as you claim, you'd know that. Most Chinese are focused on China. The few Chinese that do know something about Canada generally have a positive opinion about us. Certainly China isn't our enemy. The Chinese government wants good trade relations with Canada. They see Canada as an opportunity for wealth creation, which is how we should see them.
Harper has been foolish regarding China. They are our second biggest trading partner after the US and responsible for creating hundreds of thousands of jobs in Canada. In the not so distant future they could become our biggest trading partner. China deserves more attention than a trip once or twice a decade to criticize their improving human rights record.
Harper's criticism of China's human right's record would have carried more weight if he held all countries to the same standard he expects China to met.
In the overall scheme of what's important in China, Canada isn't very high on the list. If you traveled there as you claim, you'd know that.
I'm trying to move this discussion away from unsubstantiated hyperbole and insults to a fact based discussion. (I know that 's unlikely)
AHHH!!! So, supporting the Great Fascist Superpower runs in the family!
This is a joke..."China is not accused of committing ......... crimes against humanity."
I guess murdering and yanking the internal organs out of 40,000 people because of their religious beliefs is not a "crime against humanity".
Keep talking, EAO, your crediblity sinks lower with every word.
China is one of the very worst Human Rights abusers on EARTH!!!!
China Human Rights | Reports, News Articles & Campaigns | Amnesty International (external - login to view)
I'm not scanning my passport for you.
Please keep the veiled accusations that I'm lying to yourself.
You view history like a man with his hand over his eyes........totally convinced that his fingers, at a range of a centimeter, are the only things that matter.....
You are quite right DB, Alex was born in 356 BC....slip of the finger......not THAT one!
You know why Alex was called the Great don't you?
Because in 330 BC nobody had the balls to call him Alexander the Mediocre.
I was just guessing about 357BC being wrong because it was you posting.
Alexanders biggest claim to fame is that we remember him cuz their have been many many like him.
China is positioned to become our greatest trading partner and closest friend, they will support our economy while uncle sam slips into a civil war and then a coma. They are broke bad Colpy, no body is going to repair Humpty cuz Humpty is in de Dumpty. Much better to make new friends in far away lands who will arm us to the teeth to repell the starving hordes of fat Americans streeming across our porous borders in search of operative TeVees and unburned out fast food joints.
somedau we will toast the memory of Colpy the Magnificent. merry christmas
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EAO...Did you miss this?????
CBC News - Canada - China harvesting Falun Gong organs, report alleges
The 68-page document, produced by former MP David Kilgour and Winnipeg lawyer David Matas, is based partly on a series of telephone recordings made by the Coalition to Investigate the Persecution of the Falun Gong in China (CIPFG).
Xmas celebrations out in the open
08:20, December 25, 2009
The streets of Xitang are dotted with bars, restaurants and cafes all decorated specially for the Christmas season; Santas smile from shop windows and glistening firs stand proudly on sidewalks.
People participate in a Christmas Eve mass at the Shanghai Xujiahui Cathedral. Gao Erqiang
Only a small corner of this ancient water town in Zhejiang province remains untouched by this festive fervor - the local Protestant church.
"We will decorate the church adequately and decently on Christmas Eve," said Xia Jingzhen, a spokeswoman for the church on Tuesday. "Unlike the commercial celebrations, we focus on spiritual peace and joy."
Her comments are perhaps a sign of how seriously the growing numbers of Chinese Christians in the town and across the country take this religious festival, which despite accusations of over-commercialization has steadily increased in popularity in China over the last 30 years.
There were 70 million Protestants in China by the end of last year, one of the largest Christian populations in the world, showed research by the Chinese Academy of Social Sciences (CASS). The Beijing Catholicism Committee also said that in the capital alone the number of Catholics has risen to about 80,000 from fewer than 30,000 in the 1940s.
So are Chinese people becoming comfortable and confident about displaying their religious beliefs in public?
"In the past, we did not have a public place for fellowship groups and Sunday services. In fact, we did not even talk about our religious beliefs in public," said Xia. "We are really happy that we have a new church now. We even have our own piano and choir."
She said that the church in Xitang, a town featured in the Hollywood action film Mission Impossible 3, first opened in 1944 but was closed in the mid-1960s until the mid-1980s. It was rebuilt in 2002 and stands just five-minutes walk from the original location.
"The new church is 1,800 sq m and cost 360,000 yuan ($53,000), which included the land and construction fees. The congregation, which includes about 200 Protestants, donated half of the money for the project," said 50-year-old Xia, who was baptized 30 years ago.
Experts suggest that, although CASS studies show two-thirds of Chinese Protestants still worship at unofficial "house churches", Christmas celebration is finally returning to mainstream society 40 years after the restrictions placed on religion during the "cultural revolution" (1966-76).
Source: China Daily
I had another conversation with my son about China. Apparently world geography and politics is not their strong suit. Most people in Shanghai don't know where Korea is, let alone Canada. Korea is a one hour flight from Shanghai. It would be like someone in New York city not knowing the location of Montreal or Canada.
The Canadian Christmas Spirit is alive and well in Xingtai, Hebei
10:49, December 25, 2009
By Thabet Hassan
Last summer, I was fortunate enough to sign a contract to teach in a Canadian Chinese Program for secondary school students at Xingtai number one middle school. The program permits the Chinese students to follow the secondary school Canadian curriculum in order to be prepared for future studies at Canadian universities. It is run jointly by the Chinese school and its Canadian counterpart in Nova Scotia. The program is a perfect example of the blooming mutually beneficial collaboration between China and Canada in every field including the domain of Education.