Nothing is real

[Stretch]

I beg you to stick with this clip until the very end. The last minute of this video is mind-blowing. This is not an exercise in evidence-free paranoia-mongering.

Cannonfire

 

[jambo101]

So what you are implying is that all news is BS and shouldnt be trusted?
Then i guess its kinda pointless to watch anymore news programs as they are all pure fiction.

 

[Stretch]

So what you are implying is that all news is BS and shouldnt be trusted?
Then i guess its kinda pointless to watch anymore news programs as they are all pure fiction.

wow, if I didnt know better, I'd have thort you were an Indigo......

 

[jambo101]

Stretch I'm not getting the underlying meaning of your responses like Crystal :-?
Or Indigo, you seem to be assuming i know the rest of the sentence,:-?
Its early and i'm probably having a senior moment ya wanna jog my memory.

 

[Kakato]

Take anything stretch says with a grain of salt,hes still convinved our Canadian govt urges us to sign legal documents with pencils.

 

[Kreskin]

Strawberry Fields Forever?

 

[lone wolf]

Take anything stretch says with a grain of salt,hes still convinved our Canadian govt urges us to sign legal documents with pencils.

Do you vote?

 

[Kakato]

Do you vote?

Yes,thats an X,not a signature.

Try again.

 

[lone wolf]

Yes,thats an X,not a signature.

Try again.

Legally, your mark carries the same weight as your signature. Ballots are from a time when it was common for pepole to not know how to make a signature.

Don't take my word for it. Look it up! You have the world at your fingertips.

 

[Kakato]

Legally, your mark carries the same weight as your signature. Ballots are from a time when it was common for pepole to not know how to make a signature.

Don't take my word for it. Look it up! You have the world at your fingertips.

I did.
Our government doesnt encourage us to sign legal documents with pencils.
Look it up,you also have the world at your fingertips.:roll:

I bieleve you also need a witness if you can only use a mark instead of a signature.

 

[lone wolf]

A ballot is a legal document. If you sign with anything other than an 'X' or in anything other than pencil, it becomes a "spoiled ballot"....

 

[Kakato]

A ballot is a legal document. If you sign with anything other than an 'X' or in anything other than pencil. it becomes a "spoiled ballot"....

So where has our government encouraged us to use pencils?

Or are you just shooting from the hip again?:roll:

Try filling out your passport in pencil,see what happens.;-)

 

[Cliffy]

I hear Ginseng puts lead in your pencil. What does this have to do with manufacturing the Snews?

 

[Spade]

I hear Ginseng puts lead in your pencil. What does this have to do with manufacturing the Snews?

Cliffy, that was my father's favourite saying!
"________ puts lead in your pencil."
Now, I realize most of those foods gave you lead poisoning!

 

[lone wolf]

So where has our government encouraged us to use pencils?

Or are you just shooting from the hip again?:roll:

Try filling out your passport in pencil,see what happens.;-)

I have scrutineered many an election. If the mark is anything other than an 'X' or in anything other than pencil, it is a spoiled ballot. No shooting from the hip, just simple fact. The point isn't passports or anything else. The point is a ballot MUST be marked with an 'X' in lead. That's why they put that little pencil there. So, there IS a document that is legally signed in pencil. Knock off the side-tracking, nit-picking and semantics. You are wrong.

 

[Kakato]

I have scrutineered many an election. If the mark is anything other than an 'X' or in anything other than pencil, it is a spoiled ballot. No shooting from the hip, just simple fact. The point isn't passports or anything else. The point is a ballot MUST be marked with an 'X' in lead. That's why they put that little pencil there. So, there IS a document that is legally signed in pencil. Knock off the side-tracking, nit-picking and semantics. You are wrong.

Heres the original quote.

and here in oz and canada, we are still encouraged by the government, to use a pencil on a legal document

So ya,your shooting from the hip unless you think that statement is true.
Why you brought ballots into it is beyond me.

 

[lone wolf]

Heres the original quote.

So ya,your shooting from the hip unless you think that statement is true.
Why you brought ballots into it is beyond me.

A ballot is a legal document. You lose.

Elections Canada On-Line | Electoral Law, Policy and Research

Why did you bring this into it

Take anything stretch says with a grain of salt,...

unless you're just being belligerent?

 

[Kakato]

So your saying if I mark my X in pen its considered a spoiled ballot?

 

[lone wolf]

So your saying if I mark my X in pen its considered a spoiled ballot?

Yup.... So says the Elections Act ... and a link is provided

 

[Kakato]

This is right from your link.

3.1.2 Insufficient grounds to reject ballots


A ballot should not be rejected by a judge simply because it was:

• marked by the deputy returning officer in a manner other than as set out in the Act [284(2)] - Ballots that were objected to during the initial count have been marked by the deputy returning officer with a number that coincides with a number listed in the poll book. [286(1)] The judge may not examine the poll book. [304(2)]
  The judge may summon the deputy returning officer to give evidence under oath. [304(5)]
• marked with a symbol other than a cross - An elector may mark a ballot with a cross or other mark in the circular space opposite the name of the candidate of his or her choice, provided that the mark cannot be used to identify the elector. [151(1)(b), 279(1)(e)]
• marked with a writing instrument other than a black lead pencil </B>[304(3), DRO Manual]