Quote: Originally Posted by Unforgiven
This is exactly it! Our laws should change to reflect that too. It's fine to visit another country, it's fine to live part time in another country during the year if it's an equal share of the time, but living for five years in another country without a return to Canada in that time should mean that you're no longer a Canadian citizen unless an expressed exception is made by the government.
Which of these Canadians should be stripped of their Canadian citizenship?
1) Canadians working at Canadian embassies and consulates around the world. Most live outside Canada for most of their career.
2) Canadians serving in the armed forces living in Afghanistan. Some have spent several years living in Afghanistan.
3) A Canadian working at a Scotiabank office in the Dominican Republic. She's been living there since the branch opened about 10 years ago. She's the branch manager, owns an apartment in downtown Santo Domingo. She rarely goes back to Canada and is married to local person. They have two children who are dual citizens of Canada and the Dominican Republic
4) A Canadian salesperson selling Canadian made products in Japan. He's been in Osaka, Japan for over 2 years now and has a thriving business. Many Canadian companies now depend on him to sell their products in Japan. He's divorced and just started dating a Japanese lady. Looks like it could be serious.
5) A Canadian salesperson's retired mother. She's lives in Japan to help her son look after her grandchildren. Her son is divorced and has custody of the children. The mother has serious mental problems and is institutionalized. She's went with her to Japan son 2 years ago as daycare is difficult to find and expensive in Japan. She is a widow with only one son. She has several Japanese "boyfriends", but none are serious. She is very happy living in Japan with her son.
6) A Canadian salesperson in Germany who specializes in exporting German cars to Canada. He's been living in Germany for over a year now and was recently promoted. He'd like to return to Canada, but anticipates that his employer will open a new dealership in Canada. He's hopeful his employer will promote him again and put him in charge of the new dealership in Canada.
7) A Canadian teaching English at an elementary school in China. She graduated from a Canadian university three years ago with a teaching degree. She had trouble finding work in Canada and accepted an offer to teach in China two years ago. The work has been highly rewarding and she's learning Mandarin and Cantonese. She hopes she will return to Canada to teach, leveraging off the valuable experience she gained in China.
8 ) A Canadian Mormon doing missionary work in Bangladesh. He's hasn't lived in Canada for over 30 years although he does return to Canada occasionally to visit family. While his original purpose in going to Bangladesh was to gain converts to his religion, he started working with Mother Theresa and things changed. Now runs an orphanage in a slum area.
9) A Canadian couple living in Costa Rica. They saved their entire life for retirement. She has arthritis and finds the cold damp Canadian climate unhealthy. He has Seasonal Affective Disorder and finds himself contemplating suicide during Canadian winters. Six years ago, they went to Costa Rica on vacation and loved it. Five years ago they returned and bought a home in the Costa Rican mountains. They come back to Canada periodically to visit their children and grandchildren. Sometimes their relatives travel to Costa Rica to visit them. They don't have a lot of money, but they live comfortably. If they had to move back to Canada now to keep their citizenship, they wouldn't be able to afford a home and would have to rent a cheap appartment far away from their children who live in Toronto.
10 ) A Canadian physician and medical innovator. He gained experience as a doctor while serving with the Canadian forces. Later he went to China to teach medicine and became a communist. He and his medical inventions saved many lives over the years. In China he is consider a hero and they have erected many statues in his honor. Mentioning his name and the fact that you are Canadian immediately causes Chinese government officials to become cooperative and friendly. This person will likely never return to Canada and doesn't think much of the Canadian government or our political system.
In the above cases, please indicate that if Canada revokes a Canadian's citizenship, then which nation is obligated to grant these former Canadians citizenship and how would the Canadian government do that?
Also which branch of the government decides which Canadians living abroad should loose their citizenship and what are the criteria for revoking Canadian citizenship?
Personally I see this as bureaucratic nightmare fraught with potential to cause injustice and harm which infringes on our fundamental rights and freedoms. But if you would like to wade into this mess, go ahead.
Last edited by earth_as_one; Aug 16th, 2009 at 10:23 AM..