| View Poll Results: How many non-smokers of "de'herb" how many tokers/jokers? As if we can't pick you out | |||
| Been there done that don't care to return |
   
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0 | 0% |
| Pass another, tomorrow, fruit of my garden |
  
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1 | 20.00% |
| I think we should legalize extra cash for the economy |
  
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3 | 60.00% |
| Got got enough freaks as it is don't need more |
  
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1 | 20.00% |
| Voters: 5. You may not vote on this poll | |||
Problem is, the industry built up around arresting, processing and inprisoning the people who use it now. Do you think someone is just going to give that up without a fight?
Problem is, the industry built up around arresting, processing and inprisoning the people who use it now. Do you think someone is just going to give that up without a fight?
Just what California needs, a state full of zombies, driving on California's transit system, running it machines, administering its bureacracy, harvesting its crops. You might as well reduce the work day from 12:00 to 2:00 pm, so as not to cut into the general state of bliss
Ummm....12:00 to 2:00 pm would cut into Siesta time. You'll have to reschedule.
just what california needs, a state full of zombies, driving on california's transit system, running it machines, administering its bureacracy, harvesting its crops. You might as well reduce the work day to 12:00 - 2:00 pm, so as not to cut into the general state of bliss
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i haven't had a toke since my mid 20's, and i quit for a reason. Cannabis produces lethargy & paranoia.. Irresponsibility, withdrawal, isolation & anti-social behaviour.. Depression & psychosis with long term use.
And yes, it is far worse of a social plague than alcohol, which most people tolerate well and use moderately and socially, and does not form any persistent psychosis, neuroses and depression within those limits as weed does. With the today's genetically enhanced pot, you will get stoned on your first puff, there is no such thing as moderation.
I think the current situation is fairly stable.. Keep personal use marijuana as a misdemeanor, ticketable offense. Don't ruin lives with a criminal record for what is part of growing up now, but don't legalize the stuff, either.
Btw. Marijuana is almost legal in california anyway, where medical marijuana laws allows any trumped up subjective diagnosis of insomnia, or psychological distress, an open perscription for it. There are doctors now who will give anyone that rx for $200, renewable every year, and have built their practices on it. Its benefits have never been medically proven, while...
I haven't had a toke since my mid 20's, and i quit for a reason. Cannabis produces lethargy, paranoia, irresponsibility, withdrawal, isolation, anti-social behaviour and psychosis with long term use.
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You say that like it is a bad thing.
For some people with schizophrenia and other mental health issues, pot can bring about psychotic behaviour. Most people just get mellow. I personally don't like being zombified but I know plenty of people who are creative and productive on pot and a whole lot less aggressive than alcohol consumers.
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Cliff, at times I think you are an artist, with words, a wordsmith, my compliments to you brother. Tell me. When at your workspace- what comes out while YOU are tokin' and jokin' Zombie art?
You use terms "loosely" in your statement, perhaps for effect. You said... "Plenty of people, creative, productive... then less aggressive...." in the same sentence. For You, as a wordsmith, is not less aggressive synonymous with less motivated regards marijuana? If so, why not? Please explain. I ask because...
Mellow vs Aggression... Is it... Just less motivated, or merely a movement without collision? Or no movement at all? It makes a difference in your definition.
Cliffy when you site "plenty" of people creative and productive, it makes a difference? I think that statement is fallacious.
I believe the sentence CANNOT be true by the choice of words and definition, simply because. ....We do not know the POTENTIAL of Zombies, as to creativity, and production while not Zombified.
When I, and you... smoked- I and you, were very much Less Productive, a given actually. I was not motivated though at times- I thought I actually was-... but not like today.
Well.. then why work at all, jes' pass roun' a 'nuther joint.
Ban sugar. Insuline knocks more people into zombie states than any other bio-chemical reaction on the planet.
Have a nice day!
You are judging people based on your experiences with pot. Pot affects different people in different ways, Some have very active imaginations, some have very little brain function at all. Some like to sit around and relax, some get motivated to work. Some of the best artists and graphic artists I know can't draw a straight line if they are not stoned.
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A friend of mine designed and painted all the murals that adorned the buildings in Quesnel while stoned out of his gourd. They were all extremely detailed and exquisitely executed. I have never seen anybody who could paint a commercial sign freehand the way he did and the finished product looked like it had been created in a computer and that was before computers.
I have seen some really intricate and beautiful fine furniture and cabinetry built by artists that were stoned throughout the process. I know quite a few people who just do laborious jobs like house cleaning, janitorial work, nurses and lawyers, members of just about every profession who smoke to relax before they go to work, and are able to function and be productive, sometimes even more so than straight people. So your observations have been different than mine.
Personally, I can't function very well at all, so I do not smoke any more, even recreationally. Just because it doesn't work for me, doesn't mean it doesn't work for others. Just like your beliefs don't work for me, I can see how they might work for you. I...
What's with the "have a nice day" bit?
And sugar!? You are pissing on a sacred cow here!!!
No beef about it. Sugar is the #1 killer in the world.
Yup! And #1 gateway drug in the world too.
Cannabis gets the full vegetable rights just like the potatoes and carrots, no regulation whatever that's not given any other vegetable. It's been with us longer than either carrots or potatoes. It is a very potent medicinal and it is thee primier source of fiber on the planet perhaps, and those efficiencies are precisely why we don't have it fully integrated into society. Look no farther than the bankers. It's been the dumbest possible misuse of resources in the last century, nobody can begin to estimate the social damage done because of laws enacted and enforced for a special interest group. But furthed arrested social developement very nicely.
I bet you have some really kick ass stuff there. It shows in your writing sometimes.
Nothing smothers my arthritis pain and swelling like cannabis. It is my own little extractions that I take dayly to ward off art but because of the wild array of varietys you can never get stable dosing, so sometimes I have a little more than I actually need. The side effects are horrific I can't stop smileing and I sometimes even have to attack a refrigerator. It's insane to be having this conversation again and again over the last forty years about cannabis.
Same goes for myself. It's either 100ug of ratio fentanyl or 37.5ug and doobage. 100ug is no life for anyone.
