Defecting spy tells US that China spends most of its time stealing se

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China National News
Thursday 19th March, 2009
(ANI)

Washington, Mar.19 The Chinese intelligence service spends most of its time not only trying to steal secrets from overseas but also on ways to bolster Communist Party rule by repressing religious and political dissent internally, claims a spy who has defected to the United States.

"In some sense you can say that intelligence work between two countries is just like war but without the fire," Li Fengzhi told The Washington Times in an interview aided by an interpreter.

Li worked for years as an Ministry of State Security intelligence officer inside China before defecting to the United States, where is he awaiting a response to his request for political asylum.

He gave a rare, detailed interview to The Times on Sunday regarding the activities of the MSS, China's Communist-controlled civilian spy agency.

His prior work as a Chinese spy was confirmed to The Times by a Western government source familiar with his defection.

The source spoke on the condition of anonymity because of the sensitivity of Li's case.

Li told The Times that the MSS focuses on both counterintelligence - working against foreign intelligence agencies - and the collection of secrets and technology.

The MSS, however, is unique from other nations' intelligence services in that it is patterned after the former Soviet Union's KGB political police.

Its most important mission is "to control the Chinese people to maintain the rule of the Communist Party," he added.

Wang Baodong, a spokesman for the Chinese Embassy in Washington, did not address Li's comments directly but repeated past Chinese government statements regarding its intelligence activities.

"Allegations of China conducting spying activities against the United States are groundless and unwarranted," he said.

Li said he left China's intelligence services to protest the agency's role in government repression of political dissidents and religious groups that are outside of the ruling communist system.

In the interview, he also said:

China's spy agency is focused on sending spies to infiltrate the U.S. intelligence community, and also on collecting secrets and technology from the United States.

China is censoring the Internet to prevent the population from knowing about what occurs outside the country.

An internal MSS manual that is kept secret from most officers outlines the primary role of the service as the promotion of Communist Party's interests.

Ongoing cooperation between the CIA and FBI and the MSS in countering international terrorism can be constructive, but U.S. agencies need to be cautious because the MSS is mainly an organ of the Chinese Communist Party, and does not directly serve the interests of the Chinese nation or people.

Li was born in 1968 in northern China and was first recruited into a provincial Chinese intelligence service before being promoted to the MSS in Beijing after several years.
 

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Was Clinton almost impeached for Lewinski or was it giving China nuke tech? Tech has been ripped off for millenia. The jews buggered off with geometry from Egypt. The Christians aquired algebra and chemistry from Arabs through blood and subterfuge. Firearms were from China and on it goes....

It's all a game.
 

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It has the makings of a Jackie Chan Vs. James Bond Hollywood Blockbuster. If it has Hollywood appeal then it probably is propaganda.
 

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A small note.....The site that this article is taken from is registered in New Zealand and owned by Midwest Radio Network Ltd, which is owned by a J Jackson. Midwest also owns about 116 other domain names including "Kiwinews.com" and other online "newspapers". "China National News" is an independant news source with no connections to the Chinese Government. A quick google search on the article did not find a single Chinese newspaper from within the country of China carrying this article.
 

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This is old, old news.
China has ignored every patent law on the planet for decades.
They have bought two of everything that exists.
Then they reverse engineer it and try and duplicate it.
More times than not all they build is crap.
And that is because they have designed and created very little themselves.
All they do is try and duplicate other peoples ideas and work.

I worked for a reasonably high tech outfit that sold China two of all its latest, greatest gizmo's .
Then they contracted to train Chinese design engineers on the details.
When I grumbled I was told that it was better to get a few million out of them upfront because they were going to steal it all anyway.

Trex
 

mabudon

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It's a good thing the Chinese managed to live for several thousand years before the west came into being and invented stuff for them- I can't imagine how boring them eons were with absolutely nothing but rocks and trees to entertain yourself and get things done, they must have been thrilled to get hold of such concepts as design, architecture, math and science (and cuisine, hell, no food for millennia must have sucked) once whitey invented then in the 1600's
 

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Looking at the first paragraph I think you could exchange China with the U.S., as our new President will be going completely overt with the U.S. version of a communistic-socialistic form of a supposed democratic-republic!
 

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This on top of the fact that the story comes from the far right Washington Times makes you wonder whether it's true or not. Still, it wouldn't surprise me because every country does it.
 

bill barilko

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Religious persecution in China is nothing new.

Study the Boxer Rebellion and you'll see it was religion that started everything that took the old order down.

The Communists are scared sh*tless of Falun Gong even though it's mostly middle aged women following a wingnut.