Liberal Party Prevails Again

Quote: Originally Posted by Ron in Regina

P.S. I'm not very impressed with this budget either, but applauding Mr. Ignatieff
for this 'report card' thing is really silly at this point. Get him out fund raising and if
he does that VERY well, praise him for that. Nothing will change until that happens.

Quote: Originally Posted by Ron in Regina

......and I agreed with you earlier today on a different thread. Weird times....

Quote: Originally Posted by Ron in Regina

This thread is actually pretty darn funny! How do these "report cards" every
four months put the Harper Conservatives on notice at all??? The Liberal Party
is broke and can't afford an election any time soon. Jack Layton's tirade against
Michael Ignatieff and the Liberal party in general show the "notice" that the Harper
Conservatives have been put on. That condition changes exactly nothing at all...
Thanks for the laugh though. I needed it.

P.S. I'm not very impressed with this budget either, but applauding Mr. Ignatieff
for this 'report card' thing is really silly at this point. Get him out fund raising and if
he does that VERY well, praise him for that. Nothing will change until that happens.

Quote: Originally Posted by Ron in Regina

Good Day to you Socrates!!! If Harpers hands are tied continually, he'll
just make any vote of any significance a confidence vote and we all know
what will happen with the Liberal vote for the next couple of years until the
Liberals Bank account is about $20,000,000.00 to the positive. So how is this
being "Caged?" Confidence vote = Liberal capitulation in a vote.

Quote: Originally Posted by Socrates the Greek

What is really sad is that the younger generation may not have a pension plan left if the country goes deep deep in the red ink.

Quote: Originally Posted by Ron in Regina

Good Day to you Socrates!!! If Harpers hands are tied continually, he'll
just make any vote of any significance a confidence vote and we all know
what will happen with the Liberal vote for the next couple of years until the
Liberals Bank account is about $20,000,000.00 to the positive. So how is this
being "Caged?" Confidence vote = Liberal capitulation in a vote.

Quote: Originally Posted by SirFrancis2004

Ron, if I am not mistaken the MP's must repay a loan within a certain amount of time.

This however does NOT apply to the party.. Hence if the Liberal party was to get a loan they could drag it out as long as they want as long as the terms are legals.

Keeping that in mind I think Ignatieff would not wait long if he had the opportunity to get a Majority and change the law back to rebuild the political stability of his and other parties that will soon follow due to leadership requirements.

That said Obama has shown a good strategy to build up political funding at $5.00 a shot. Using tools such as Facebook and Paypal it was possible for him to accumulate millions weekly quickly..

Of course you still have limits in Canada and finding ways around those might prove challenging. Names must appear and limits are still in place. All political parties realize these limits will eventually have to end and even Harper ( or successor ) would be looking at changing these rules.


As for the pension plans, nothing will change till we make Canada more attractive to have children..

Quote: Originally Posted by Risus

It will be a long time before the liberals have the funds to run a campaign in an election.

Quote: Originally Posted by Liberalman

Like a true Harvard professor Liberal Leader Michael Ignatieff put the Harper Conservatives on notice and told them to do it right this time or face the consequences.

Three book reports outlining the progress of Stephen Harper in March, June, December and make those confidence reports which means if Harper decides that it’s business as usual then the governments falls.

After the last Novembers economic statement Conservatives found out what a minority government really means.

The snotty nosed Prime Minister of Canada was crying like a little girl to the Governor General to close parlement because the kitchen was getting too hot so she pulled the plug and Harper the little girl grew up and became a man.

The Conservatives presented a Liberal budget yesterday and Michael Ignatieff liked what he saw, he just wants the reports so everyone will know the full facts.

Accountability, I think that’s what Harper ran on originally.

Quote: Originally Posted by Socrates the Greek

Hey good evening Ron, If Harpers math continues to be deceiving it won’t take long for big business and other special interest groups to put their doe on the liberals making contributions that will mach or exceed the $20,000,000.00 you are talking.

Iggy did put the Harper Conservatives on probation to be accountable or you are gona fall. The people are closely watching a man who stood before them 12 weeks ego and told them "NO DEFICITS" and to day they are throwing a number of $84Billion over 5 years, does anyone believe that at the end of 5 years the number will stay the same? Of course not!!!! So Canada is faced with unthinkable debt and the young generation will pay for all of it. What is really sad is that the younger generation may not have a pension plan left if the country goes deep deep in the red ink.

Quote: Originally Posted by Zzarchov

If every country is following a left wing agenda when times get tough.

I guess that means the right wing agenda is bankrupt then?

Quote: Originally Posted by Ron in Regina

Obama has established a method. Assume all Parties take it to heart. Looking
at the track record (recent) as to which party is able to get its supporters to
pony up...this could be very lopsided, but it is a path for all to try.

With the Liberal Party just going through an election with (please correct me
if I'm wrong) the second lowest approval rating in their history, and then
turfing their leader to replace him with someone who's been on the job for
two months....if you where a creditor....how confident would you be spotting
this party multi-millions of dollars in this economic down turn and still expect
a return with interest in a timely manner???