Iranian leader demands US apology


Praxius
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Mr Ahmadinejad's remarks were the first since Mr Obama took office

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Iran's president has responded to an overture by the new US president by demanding an apology for past US "crimes" committed against Iran.

The US "stood against the Iranian people in the past 60 years," Mahmoud Ahmadinejad said during an address in the western region of Khermenshah.

"Those who speak of change must apologise to the Iranian people and try to repair their past crimes," he said.

President Obama has offered to extend a hand if Iran "unclenched its fist".

President Barack Obama discussed the possibility of a softening of US policy towards Iran in an interview recorded with a Saudi-owned Arabic TV network on Monday.

'Strong tirade'

The Iranian president welcomed the possibility of US change, but said: "When they say 'we want to make changes', change can happen in two ways".
"First is a fundamental and effective change... The second ... is a change of tactics. It is very clear that, if the meaning of change is the second one, this will soon be revealed," he said.


The remarks are the first Iranian comment on the US since Mr Obama took office eight days ago.

The BBC's Jon Leyne in Tehran describes it as one of Mr Ahmadinejad's strongest tirades against the US.

Our correspondent says we may see twists and turns out of Iran as its leaders work out whether Mr Obama is offering real changes and whether they are prepared to offer real changes in return.

While he was playing to the crowd, adds our correspondent, he could also be staking out his position ahead of Iran's presidential elections in June.

Mr Ahmadinejad congratulated Mr Obama after his election in November but the message was criticised in Iran and received a cool response from Mr Obama.

Nuclear issue

Mr Ahmadinejad also attacked US support for Israel and called on Mr Obama to withdraw US troops from their bases around the world.

"If you talk about change it must put an end to the US military presence in the world, withdraw your troops and take them back inside your borders."

The US should "stop interfering in other people's affairs," he said.

"If someone wants to talk with us in the language that [George W] Bush used... even if he uses new words, our response will be the same that we gave to Bush during the past years".

Relations between Washington and Tehran reached new lows in recent years over attempts by the US and its allies in the United Nations to curtail Iran's nuclear programme over fears it is trying to build nuclear weapons.

Tehran says its programme is to develop civilian nuclear power only.

The new US ambassador to the UN, Susan Rice, said on Monday that she was looking forward to "vigorous diplomacy that includes direct diplomacy with Iran".
The US broke off diplomatic ties with Iran in 1979, after students stormed the US embassy in Tehran after the Islamist revolution overthrew the US-backed Shah.

I'm not sure, is that an unclinched fist?
 
EagleSmack
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I think that falls in the "clenched fist" category. Perhaps Iran likes the way things as they are. I doubt very highly Iran will get an apology.
 
Cliffy
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Quote: Originally Posted by EagleSmackView Post

I think that falls in the "clenched fist" category. Perhaps Iran likes the way things as they are. I doubt very highly Iran will get an apology.

Of course not. America is always right and they would never apologize not matter what stupid mistake or atrocity they perpetrate. They don't have to - god is on their side after all!
 
EagleSmack
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Quote: Originally Posted by CliffyView Post

Of course not. America is always right

That's right and don't you forget it Clifford.

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and they would never apologize not matter what stupid mistake or atrocity they perpetrate. They don't have to - god is on their side after all!

Yawn. BLAHBLAHBLAHBLAH
 
Cliffy
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That's right and don't you forget it Clifford.



Yawn. BLAHBLAHBLAHBLAH

And I suppose that your response is unexpected or clever. You just prove my point.
 
EagleSmack
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And I suppose that your response is unexpected or clever. You just prove my point.

I am just stooping to your level Clifford. You want to be a silly troll you shall be treated as such.

Did you really "suppose" that?

Did you have a point?

You are one of the many whining b*itches that pop up from time to time... that is all.
 
darkbeaver
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I am just stooping to your level Clifford. You want to be a silly troll you shall be treated as such.

Did you really "suppose" that?

Did you have a point?

You are one of the many whining b*itches that pop up from time to time... that is all.

Have you got your imperial star trooper uniform on this early in the day Smack?
 
EagleSmack
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Have you got your imperial star trooper uniform on this early in the day Smack?

Lol... and if I do... what of it?

It's cool, comfortable, form fitting, material breathes well.
 
MHz
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Quote: Originally Posted by CliffyView Post

god is on their side after all!

Just because they claim it is so doesn't make it so. By their fruits you will know them is how it actually goes. They will belong to God at some point, at the present their God is not the God they claim it to be.

The list of who they would have to include, if they ever offered an apology to anybody, would be a lot longer than just Iran, but you have to start somewhere. Perhaps adding a few names to the list that are off to The Hague might be seen as a sort of gesture in that general direction. Anybody still alive from '53 that could be sent, might as well get rid of the old stock first.
 
lone wolf
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I don't think that ayatolah fellow was the best of neighbours....
 
EagleSmack
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Quote: Originally Posted by MHzView Post

Just because they claim it is so doesn't make it so. By their fruits you will know them is how it actually goes. They will belong to God at some point, at the present their God is not the God they claim it to be.

Just because you claim we claim it doesn't me we claim it.
 
Cannuck
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"Iran's president has responded to an overture by the new US president by demanding an apology for past US "crimes" committed against Iran"

The west should apologize. It would serve two purposes. First, the west (notice I'm using the term west instead of US) has no credibility in the middle east because they say one thing and do another. They claim they want democracy but then they overthrow the democratically elected Mohammed Mosaddeq and install a brutal dictator. Until the west acknowledges this as hypocritical the ME will continue to distrust them.

Secondly, It takes the bluster out of Ahmadinejad's words. He is not highly thought of in the middle east but the distrust of the west helps him. Agree with him. show him he is right. Make him "a friend of the west". It'll take the wind out of his sails.
 
MHz
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Just because you claim we claim it doesn't me we claim it.

It's printed on your money....In God We Trust (everybody else pays cash)
What's a me we?
 
Socrates the Greek
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Quote: Originally Posted by EagleSmackView Post

I think that falls in the "clenched fist" category. Perhaps Iran likes the way things as they are. I doubt very highly Iran will get an apology.

Iran deserves nothing of that sort. They are financing terror against the West and the Jews. They should apologize to the world for hate crimes they have blood stains on their cloths...
Last edited by Socrates the Greek; Jan 28th, 2009 at 02:49 PM..
 
lone wolf
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Iran deserves nothing of that sort. They are financing terror against the West and the Jews. They should apologize to the world for hate crimes they have blood satins on their cloths...

...or blood stains on their clothes. Golly, we do hate dirty laundry.
 
MHz
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Quote: Originally Posted by Socrates the GreekView Post

Iran deserves nothing of that sort. They are financing terror against the West and the Jews. They should apologize to the world for hate crimes they have blood satins on their cloths...

What does bloody satin have to do with what the US was upto in Iran in the 50's and upto the end of the 70's?
Iran doesn't have it's military spread over the globe nor is it unloading bombs on anybody, a terrorist is one who caused terror to be felt by the helpless, at the present that is the Us and Israel. At least keep up with the program.
 
EagleSmack
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It's printed on your money....In God We Trust (everybody else pays cash)

So because it is printed on our money you feel that? Really? How silly you are.

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What's a me we?

Oh that is a type-o. I meant to type "mean" instead of me...

"By their fruits you will know them is how it actually goes." Just like this means no sense as you typed it but I got your drift of what you were trying to say.
 
Scott Free
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America does owe Iran an apology but then America owes most everyone an apology.
 
EagleSmack
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Quote: Originally Posted by MHzView Post

Iran doesn't have it's military spread over the globe nor is it unloading bombs on anybody, a terrorist is one who caused terror to be felt by the helpless, at the present that is the Us and Israel.

Since you are correcting everyone's typos, how about using a period. Ever hear of a constructing a complete sentence?
 
EagleSmack
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America does owe Iran an apology but then America owes most everyone an apology.

And most everyone owes us a thank you but we'll be waiting a long time for that.
 
Scott Free
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Bani Ershaid appeared confident that Obama would do all this and even declared that Obama’s victory was “tantamount to an apology from the American people for the crimes committed by the outgoing Republican administration in Iraq, Afghanistan and elsewhere.” - --

America has already apologized it seems LMAO...
 
Scott Free
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And most everyone owes us a thank you but we'll be waiting a long time for that.

lol, yeah right.
 
MHz
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It's just odd to see you two making little errors like that. I sometimes wonder if I should just do my posts in point form, rather than the paragraph long sentence that some of them tend to turn out as, luckily this isn't an example.

Scott is you do a search for 'alrighty comrades' that should bring up a summary of 'events' going back several hundred years, every instance must be true because Eagle has seen it and there were no objections that it was untrue in any means. It was originally on whatreallyhappened.com
 
MHz
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And most everyone owes us a thank you but we'll be waiting a long time for that.

That usually is said at the end of something, you would hear it more often if you ever left somebody (nations) to their own life (and they were better of than when you entered their lives). When somebody does say 'thank you no, good-bye' you get a snit on and bad-mouth then for decades and make their existence as painful as possible rather than just move on to somebody who wants what you could sell previously.
 
Scott Free
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Quote: Originally Posted by MHzView Post

Scott is you do a search for 'alrighty comrades' that should bring up a summary of 'events' going back several hundred years, every instance must be true because Eagle has seen it and there were no objections that it was untrue in any means. It was originally on whatreallyhappened.com

I just know what the USA has done to Iran in recent times is abhorrent and despicable.

Iran would be a much different place if the USA hadn't meddled in their affairs. They might have been a tolerant sectarian country in not for the USA.
 
EagleSmack
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Quote: Originally Posted by MHzView Post

It's just odd to see you two making little errors like that. I sometimes wonder if I should just do my posts in point form, rather than the paragraph long sentence that some of them tend to turn out as, luckily this isn't an example.

This attempt is a prime example why you shouldn't be correcting others. Do you ever read what you type? One who doesn't have a grasp at how to construct a sentence, and where to put a period and start a new sentence should not be correcting typos.

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Scott is you do a search for 'alrighty comrades' that should bring up a summary of 'events' going back several hundred years, every instance must be true because Eagle has seen it and there were no objections that it was untrue in any means. It was originally on whatreallyhappened.com

^ See what I mean?
 
MHz
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Even if Iran wanted to minimize contact with a certain portion of people that live in the West, they might also be quite willing to allow high volume tourism to the family orientated travelers. (snow skiing in the morning and tanning on a beach in the afternoon) They have enough of a mountain range that a tour would last a few weeks to months long excursions, all for a price that would more than recoup any startup costs (like a nuclear power plant to power all the devices)
 
MHz
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Quote: Originally Posted by EagleSmackView Post

should not be correcting typos.

Okay, correcting your ill informed biased opinions on the topic of America was more fun anyway.
 
Socrates the Greek
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...or blood stains on their clothes. Golly, we do hate dirty laundry.

Tks LW, I was rushing through………………… Mahmoud Ahmadinejad is no great example of divine inspiration, I find it hard to like a human being like him, even though the common man would feel better forgiving than hating. Forgiveness vs hatred is a good thought; but if the person who is forgiven they are not worthy of that forgiveness then emotion kicks in and dislike is a visitor who spoils the peace process.
 
Scott Free
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I might point out that it was the USA who originally wanted Iran to have nuclear power. The idea was that then the USA could have more of Iran's oil. This transpired under Ford.
 

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