Cleric says it's ok for 10-year-old girls to marry

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CTV.ca | Cleric says it's ok for 10-year-old girls to marry

RIYADH, Saudi Arabia -- Saudi Arabia's most senior cleric was quoted Wednesday as saying it is permissible for 10-year-old girls to marry and those who think they're too young are doing the girls an injustice.

The mufti's comments showed the conservative clergy's opposition to a drive by Saudi rights groups, including government ones, to define the age of marriage and put an end to the phenomenon of child marriages.

"It is wrong to say it's not permitted to marry off girls who are 15 and younger," Sheik Abdul-Aziz Al Sheikh, the country's grand mufti, was quoted as saying.

"A female who is 10 or 12 is marriageable and those who think she's too young are wrong and are being unfair to her," he said during a Monday lecture, according to the pan-Arab Al-Hayat newspaper.

Al Sheikh's comments come at a time when Saudi human rights groups have been pushing the government to put an end to marriages involving the very young and to define a minimum age for marriage. In the past few months, Saudi newspapers have highlighted several cases in which young girls were married off to much older men or very young boys.

Though the mufti's pronouncements are respected and provide guidance, the government is not legally bound by them.

On Sunday, the government-run Human Rights Commission condemned marriages of minor girls, saying such marriages are an "inhumane violation" and rob children of their rights.

The commission's statement followed a ruling by a court in Oneiza in central Saudi Arabia last month that dismissed a divorce petition by the mother of an eight-year-old girl whose father married her off to a man in his 50s.

Newspaper reports said the court argued that the mother did not have the right to file such a case on behalf of her daughter and said that the petition should be filed by the girl when she reaches puberty.

Responding to a question about parents who force their underage daughters to marry, the mufti said: "We hear a lot about the marriage of underage girls in the media, and we should know that Islamic law has not brought injustice to women."

The mufti said a good upbringing will make a girl capable of carrying out her duties as a wife and that those who say women should not marry before the age of 25 are following a "bad path."

"Our mothers and before them, our grandmothers, married when they were barely 12," said Al Sheikh, according to Al-Hayat.

There are no statistics to show how many marriages involving children are performed in Saudi Arabia every year. And it's also not clear whether these unions are on the rise or whether people are hearing about them more now because of the prevalence of media outlets and easy access to the Internet.

Activists say the girls are given away in return for hefty dowries or as a result of long-standing custom in which a father promises his infant daughters and sons to cousins out of a belief that marriage will protect them from illicit relationships.

That's a little screwy.... who'd want a kid to marry in the first place? It'd be more like parenting then a relationship if you ask me.
 

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I married at age 19. I work with girls who are 19 and 20 and younger. There is no way in this world they are even prepared at these ages to be married. I look back and wonder how I managed to marry, move to another city and have a child all before the age of 20. The idea of being married even by age 16 is revolting.
 

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19 year olds aren't fit to be married? bull, me and my wife got married at 19 and have been happily married for longer than most marriages last.

Oh: And the first post, about the 10 year olds, I think we can all agree thats sick and disgusting.
 

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Interpretations of the Koran say Muhammad married Aisha when she was six and did the deed when she turned nine.
Some other sources say Aisha was slightly older.
In any case what is good for the Prophet must be good for the followers.

It is somewhat common for local village girls in India, Pakistan and Bangladesh to be selected by marriage brokers at a very early age.
Rich middle -eastern men then marry them and provide a small allowance for food and clothing to the girls family. The girls are allowed to live with there parents until their first menses.
Then they are shipped off to the rich guys household like fresh brood stock.
Been there, seen it with my own eyes.

Different cultures have different feelings about paedophilia than does ours.

Gives me the creeps personally.

Trex
 

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Saudi Arabia's most senior cleric was quoted Wednesday as saying it is permissible for 10-year-old girls to marry and those who think they're too young are doing the girls an injustice.


What a pervert, sex under the age of 14 is prohibited by civilized thinking. The only reason the pervert takes this position is because the Arab world is the land of Chauvinistic mentality.

To subject a 10 year old girl to become someone’s wife when in fact the 10 year old girl has not had a chance to understand her body that is chauvinistic in the extreme. These losers are hypocrites, they hide behind religion when infect all they are breading factories of hate and chauvinism.
 

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Saudi Arabia's most senior cleric was quoted Wednesday as saying it is permissible for 10-year-old girls to marry and those who think they're too young are doing the girls an injustice.


What a pervert, sex under the age of 14 is prohibited by civilized thinking. The only reason the pervert takes this position is because the Arab world is the land of Chauvinistic mentality.

To subject a 10 year old girl to become someone’s wife when in fact the 10 year old girl has not had a chance to understand her body that is chauvinistic in the extreme. These losers are hypocrites, they hide behind religion when infect all they are breading factories of hate and chauvinism.

Ten is way too young - by western standards. Hell, who wants someone who's gonna giggle anyhow? Then again snake venom isn't for drinking. When did your beliefs become standard of the world?
 

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Ya' know....maybe it's just a translation issue, and what's being translated into
English as "OK" is really "hitiously repulsive in a sick & pervertedly twisted sort
of way" in Arabic. That babelfish.yahoo.com can really pooch things at times...
 
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Ten is way too young - by western standards. Hell, who wants someone who's gonna giggle anyhow? Then again snake venom isn't for drinking. When did your beliefs become standard of the world?

Good day LW, I have always been my own man, and I have always worked to improve the wrong around me, but when it comes to a 10 year old child (girl) I expect some reasonable standard that would protect vulnerable human beings specifically a 10 year old girl. In this instance, my beliefs are in perfect alignment with a civil way of life but unfortunately for millions of young kids, they are facing the fate to be at the age of 10 in the hands of chauvinistic pigs..
 
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I don't give 2 craps if they are from a different culture, marrying a child is wrong and disgusting. These people need to move out of the stone age, sick ****s.
 

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Good day LW, I have always been my own man, and I have always worked to improve the wrong around me, but when it comes to a 10 year old child (girl) I expect some reasonable standard that would protect vulnerable human beings specifically a 10 year old girl. In this instance, my beliefs are in perfect alignment with a civil way of life but unfortunately for millions of young kids, they are facing the fate to be at the age of 10 in the hands of chauvinistic pigs..

Soc ... it's not the thing with the kid. It's the hate you spout. It's not that long ago a single fourteen-year-old in the Ozarks was considered to be an old maid. What can you expect from a culture stuck in the last milenium?
 

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What hate is he spouting? What these imams or clerics are supporting is sick and a crime. They deserve every bit of condemnation.
 

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What hate is he spouting? What these imams or clerics are supporting is sick and a crime. They deserve every bit of condemnation.

Some diddle-speaking cleric isn't the entire Arab world.

"...The only reason the pervert takes this position is because the Arab world is the land of Chauvinistic mentality...."
 

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Some diddle-speaking cleric isn't the entire Arab world.

"...The only reason the pervert takes this position is because the Arab world is the land of Chauvinistic mentality...."

He's speaking for Saudi Arabia where the distinction between religion & law is little.

Arabs are chauvinistic, you really can't deny that.
 

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Soc ... it's not the thing with the kid. It's the hate you spout.

Easy with the friendly fire LW, I hate evil; I will fight evil if I am confronted by evil. I believe that to hate is an indisputable human neurological mechanism that can at times help one keep the guards of defense up.
In a world like the Middle East were a woman is nothing, as we speak atrocities in silence AGAINST CHILDREN AND WOMEN are taking place in the hands of chauvinistic pigs. That is a justified hate LW.
 

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Easy with the friendly fire LW, I hate evil; I will fight evil if I am confronted by evil. I believe that to hate is an indisputable human neurological mechanism that can at times help one keep the guards of defense up.
In a world like the Middle East were a woman is nothing, as we speak atrocities in silence AGAINST CHILDREN AND WOMEN are taking place in the hands of chauvinistic pigs. That is a justified hate LW.

Funny ... you sound the same when you're speaking of jack-boots and socialists too.
 

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Chauvinist and child molestor aren't the same thing.

LW, one thing is for sure is that a chauvinist is one who will subject the other to deprivation of gender liberties. The same brand of pig is abusing and molesting young innocent life, there by damaging a young mind. A molester is the same brand of pig, lives in the same dirt as the Chauvinist pig who thinks that it is OK to robe the 10 year old girl from here child hood. You are talking about hate?