BBC NEWS | South Asia | Afghan foetus 'aborted by razor'
I'll let this flow for an open debate before I shed my 2 cents.
Afghan foetus 'aborted by razor'
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BBC NEWS | South Asia | Afghan foetus 'aborted by razor'
I'll let this flow for an open debate before I shed my 2 cents.
Ok, let me get the ball rolling then:
It has been mentioned in the past in abortion topics about women who want (or forced) to get rid of a fetus will do so, by any means they (or those forcing them) feel are nessicary. When there isn't the availability of an abortion clinic and a professional doctor to make these happen, we get situations such as this.
Now on the flip side of this story, we have Afghanistan (Where this situation occured) where women are still not fully treated to the equality they deserve and apparently her family took it apon themselves to remove this fetus (With or without the daughter's permission, that is currently unknown) It is also a place where rape/sexual assault isn't talked about or accepted all that much (As described above in the article)
When we are all here in this country (and the US whom are reading this) and we are always debating the rights and wrongs of abortion based on our own society and religious beliefs...... how or what would you propose be dones for situations like this over there to avoid the massacre of young women?
Put yourself in the situation that you currently live in Afghanistan, surrounded by a culture totally different from your own. You still hold true to your own beliefs and values, so how would you go about introducing your own methods and ideas to protect young women and perhaps prevent these sorts of situations as best as possible?
What laws would you put in place?
What sort of programs or clinics would you introduce?
Education?
Don't forget, this is a different culture then Canada or the US and should be something that can be easily intergrated into their own society in a way that might actually work and be accepted.
It has been mentioned in the past in abortion topics about women who want (or forced) to get rid of a fetus will do so, by any means they (or those forcing them) feel are nessicary. When there isn't the availability of an abortion clinic and a professional doctor to make these happen, we get situations such as this.
Now on the flip side of this story, we have Afghanistan (Where this situation occured) where women are still not fully treated to the equality they deserve and apparently her family took it apon themselves to remove this fetus (With or without the daughter's permission, that is currently unknown) It is also a place where rape/sexual assault isn't talked about or accepted all that much (As described above in the article)
When we are all here in this country (and the US whom are reading this) and we are always debating the rights and wrongs of abortion based on our own society and religious beliefs...... how or what would you propose be dones for situations like this over there to avoid the massacre of young women?
Put yourself in the situation that you currently live in Afghanistan, surrounded by a culture totally different from your own. You still hold true to your own beliefs and values, so how would you go about introducing your own methods and ideas to protect young women and perhaps prevent these sorts of situations as best as possible?
What laws would you put in place?
What sort of programs or clinics would you introduce?
Education?
Don't forget, this is a different culture then Canada or the US and should be something that can be easily intergrated into their own society in a way that might actually work and be accepted.
Is lack of availability the issue here? Or cultural refusal to access the clinics available to them?
What's even sadder is that no matter what happens to the girl, she's basically screwed. (no pun intended)
you think afghanistan is a bad place because rape isn't accepted?
perhaps you want to re-word that one
Hermanntrude, looks like a reasonable comment to me. Perhaps he should have said Afghanistan is a bad place because rape victim isn’t accepted (rather than rape isn’t accepted), but other than that, I fully agree with the sentiment.
Help, talking about, clinical assistence, accepting that sexual assaults occur and that it's not the fault of the woman, is what I was talking about.
That's a bit of a broad statement, since just about all the major religions out there do this.
Yes, I know you were refering to Islam in Afghanistan, but in a sense, they're no more different the many Christian groups in North America and around the world. (Depending on what part of Rape and Abortion we're focusing on)
Due to war, possible demographic changes involving age of available males and male to female ratios might help in changing things.....maybe.
I'm not sure I completely follow.... are you implying the ratio is more male then female or more female then male due to the war? And what effect do you believe this has apon this situation?
I'm not implying anything with respect to present numbers. However, generally, during times of war, the number of males tends to decline. With a decline in the number of males, women are able to fill roles and do things in the community that are generally reserved for men. In ideal situations, this could possibly lead to social change as has happened in other societies, in the past. No guarantees as Islam is SO patriarchal and man friendly. Their culture also allows the old gizzard, village chiefs to marry many young chicks. Ultimately, more liberal males and women have to push for change and feminize the new generation of men.
Makes sense.
I guess as I see it for Afghanistan, it'll be a slow process, which has to start at the bottom of the foundation, which is education/schooling.
With proper education at a young age, it can be curbbed from the society.
As you said about other societies, during the great wars, women stepped up to the plate and took over many of the jobs men did, esspecially in factory work for the military. It was still a long process for women to get where they are today, but it does go to show it can be done.
And even here in Canada there are still some of the older generation who still have their stigmas of women or other races or sexual orientation..... it's something that tends to be etched into your mind at a young age, based on education and your surrounding community's ways.
It's a slow process that has to evolve through generations it would seem, and can not be fixed in one day.