CTV.ca | Parliamentary group wants to reopen abortion debate
WINNIPEG -- The new chairman of a secretive pro-life Parliamentary caucus is pledging to rekindle the abortion debate in Canada and bring "more value" to the lives of unborn children.
Exactly why do we have a "Secretive Pro-Life Parliamentary Caucus"
in our government in the first place? Why would there be any Secretive groups with their own agendas hiding in our government for that matter?
Although Prime Minister Stephen Harper has said he's not interested in reopening the divisive issue, Winnipeg MP Rod Bruinooge told The Canadian Press people need to be better educated about Canada's abortion stance, which he says puts the country in a "class of its own."
"Very few Canadians appreciate the fact that essentially until a child takes its first breath, it has less value than a kidney," says Bruinooge.
Which is true, deal with it.
"In Canada you can't remove your kidney and put it on eBay and auction it off. That is illegal.......
No sh*t Sherlock.... when was the last time you seen anybody remove a fetus from their body and sell it on Ebay?
Nice example, idiot.
......Whereas you actually can end a beating heart of an unborn child the second before it's delivered. Most Canadians would agree that is truly a poor bioethical position for our country to be in."
No you can't do that you twit. Abortions are only allowed for so long during development before it is too late to have an abortion.... then your only option is to give it up for adoption.
How do ignorant people like this get into our government in the first place?
I thought education was required.
Pro-choice advocates say Canadian doctors only perform such later-term procedures if there's a serious threat to the health of the mother or if it's virtually certain the baby wouldn't survive past birth.
Exactly..... stop lying.
As Canada marks 20 years since a Supreme Court decision struck down Criminal Code restrictions on abortion, some advocates are worried the Conservatives will reopen the debate. But they say they are ready to fight for a woman's right to choose once again if necessary.
At the party's convention recently in Winnipeg, Conservative delegates voted to resurrect a proposal that would create specific criminal charges that could be laid against a suspect who kills or injures a fetus during a crime against a pregnant mother. A bill that would have done that died on the order paper when the last federal election was called.
Critics argue such a law would reopen the abortion debate by recognizing fetal rights.
"I think the debate is ongoing," Bruinooge says. "We need to have a starting point of debating whether or not abortion should be legal right up until the moment of birth."
Regardless of the health, safety and life of the mother in rare occasions?
Me thinks not.... first come, first serve.... the Mother is currently alive, the fetus is not. If you risk the life of the mother through a birth that can end up being fatal for whatever reason, somehow that fetus that hasn't even begun it's life has the rights to survive over the mother?
That makes wonderful sense
I sure as hell never heard of any situations where some woman was 9 months pregnant and was about to give birth, suddenly changed her mind and a doctor said "sure ok, let me go get the ice cream scoop..."
It's a load of crap and a faulty defense for opening up the debate again.
Bruinooge wouldn't say how many MPs are formally part of the pro-life caucus, but said there are supporters from every party. It's up to individual members to "present their personal philosophy on this issue," he says.
Which could only be one or two from every party for all we know, since it's "Secretive."
Joyce Arthur, co-ordinator of the Abortion Rights Coalition of Canada, says it's not surprising that the pro-life movement is feeling "energized lately." The majority of the Conservative caucus are "publicly anti-choice", she says, and many are lobbying intently against a woman's right to choose.
"It's something that the Conservative party is out of touch with because Canadians don't want to go back to the abortion debate," Arthur says. "People are happy with the status quo. It's working well."
And it is.
Maybe it has to do with the Conservatives also trying to open up the Quebec Seperatist debate again that stirred up this debate to startup again.
Erin Leigh, acting executive director of Canadians for Choice, says the pro-life caucus has been around for years, trying to work behind the scenes to resurrect the abortion debate.
But she says the "silent majority" of Canadians are pro-choice and realize it's important for women to have a safe, accessible alternative to pregnancy.
"If a woman is pregnant and she doesn't want to be, she'll find ways to terminate that pregnancy, legally or illegally."
Indeed that will.
Seriously what do they wish to acomplish from all of this?
A woman if determined enough will remove the fetus one way or another. Then what? Send them to jail?
The Murder or taking of a life of the fetus? We've already had this debate in regards to whether or not a fetus is considered a living/breathing human with consciousness..... and it's not.
So you send them to jail..... what if during that time they get pregnant in some fashion or another? (It does happen)
Does the Government have the right to remove their overies or uterus to prevent them from "killing" more fetuses?
How far down the rabbit hole do we go here, seriously?