http://www.thechronicleherald.ca/NovaScotia/1079925.html
Hmmmm.... so I guess we can all start our own grow-ops and not worry about going to jail.
I wonder how this happened?
Mystery surrounds dropped pot charges
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http://www.thechronicleherald.ca/NovaScotia/1079925.html
Hmmmm.... so I guess we can all start our own grow-ops and not worry about going to jail.
I wonder how this happened?
Looks like some how all that evidence was burned up. Dang! Now they have to go with the theft under 5000. Is that a misdemeanour like shoplifting or dine and dash?
Sounds like Nova Scotia needs an inquiry to see what's up in the relationship between police and the Crown Attorneys Office. :roll:
Sounds like Nova Scotia needs an inquiry to see what's up in the relationship between police and the Crown Attorneys Office. :roll:
I only know of one Beaton and that was back in high school.... and someone I never talked to often.... so I wouldn't know.
Nah... I like this system as it currently is..... keep the dope flowing I say :lol:
Well if not keep it as it is, how about just legalizing it and getting it over with?
Only idiots are interested in legalizing pot. Anyone who has studied the situation knows that decriminalization is what will solve allt he problems associated with pot.
Decriminalization is the first step in legalizing it over time.... neither is going to happen under the current form of government, everybody knows this, which is why I made a generalized joke about it being legalized in the first place because no matter what I say here or anywhere else, neither is going to happen anytime soon.
Since I wasn't attempting to go into any major detail on legalizing or decriminalizing marijuana in the first place, I didn't think being factual in a joke would be that big of a deal.
Then again, only idiots wouldn't catch that.
Oh and by the way.... decriminalization won't "solve allt he problems associated with pot."
Only idiots would think that. It might solve most, but not "All"
Only idiots would think that. It might solve most, but not "All"
What they lost in sales, electronics, hydroponics equipment and cash was probably more than they ever would have paid in fines and time
Decriminalization is an invented term used to avoid the correct term legal. Tomatoes and spinache and radishes and booze and cigarretts are legal not decriminalized.
Ah please expand on this. I shall then explain what I see as the difference and why it should be so.
Decriminalizing, legalizing pot is a very dumb idea. Unless you are growing your own bud ALL of the pot being smoked in this country and virtually every other is a direct result of organized crime.
Times have changed. The weed business is big business. It's no longer Ricky and Julian growing some dope for their friends.
The crop yields that come from the growops nowadays require an organized criminal element to distribute them. The money gleaned from these crops go on to finance other criminal ventures such as weapons trafficking, human trafficking, cocaine trafficking, meth trafficking, corrupting government officials nationally and internationally and so on and so on.
Don't get me wrong. If you can grow your own marijuana for your own use and consume it outside of the reach of children then by all means blaze it up. I have no problem with that whatsoever.
But if you buy your weed from a dealer you are contributing to a lot of human suffering.
Times have changed. The weed business is big business. It's no longer Ricky and Julian growing some dope for their friends.
The crop yields that come from the growops nowadays require an organized criminal element to distribute them. The money gleaned from these crops go on to finance other criminal ventures such as weapons trafficking, human trafficking, cocaine trafficking, meth trafficking, corrupting government officials nationally and internationally and so on and so on.
Don't get me wrong. If you can grow your own marijuana for your own use and consume it outside of the reach of children then by all means blaze it up. I have no problem with that whatsoever.
But if you buy your weed from a dealer you are contributing to a lot of human suffering.
Not of it's controlled ... regulated as per the provincial liquor control boards. In fact, it would hurt organized crime and reduce crime rates in the bargain. Even with a 100% mark-up for taxes, it would be much less expensive than weed that gets another risk (and greed) factor percentage added the further from the grower it gets. Competition with pushers and the traffic line would vanish with low profits at higher risk. Quality would always be the same.
The problem with control is that it would only have an impact locally. Drugs is an international business so the price of weed or the profits made by dealers would still be enormous. The Canadian government would not start exporting the weed to the Us- our biggest customer. So it would still be the criminal element that would cause the industry to thrive.
In theory your point is correct. But we are dealing with illicit produce here. Unless there was a global policy similar to what you suggest the organized crime would still thrive here in Canada.
Illegal cigarettes and booze is still a highly lucrative business here in Canada despite regulation. The profits are not as huge as illegal drugs though however. This is because both smokes and booze are legal in the US and most other countries. With banned and controlled substances the business is different. The criminal element controls that market when the government cannot legally or morally export those substances.
Of course we saw the result of organized crime with prohibition of alcohol in the US and Canada. On this side we produced alcohol en masse. The Canadian government (in principal) respected the US ban on alcohol and did not export to the US. As a result an international criminal network was created. And as stated in my previous post much suffering and corruption of public officials on both sides occured.
In theory your point is correct. But we are dealing with illicit produce here. Unless there was a global policy similar to what you suggest the organized crime would still thrive here in Canada.
Illegal cigarettes and booze is still a highly lucrative business here in Canada despite regulation. The profits are not as huge as illegal drugs though however. This is because both smokes and booze are legal in the US and most other countries. With banned and controlled substances the business is different. The criminal element controls that market when the government cannot legally or morally export those substances.
Of course we saw the result of organized crime with prohibition of alcohol in the US and Canada. On this side we produced alcohol en masse. The Canadian government (in principal) respected the US ban on alcohol and did not export to the US. As a result an international criminal network was created. And as stated in my previous post much suffering and corruption of public officials on both sides occured.
Weed doesn't have to be imported. The best stuff in the world grows in BC now. If someone chooses to take it upon themselves to export, then they have to deal with the consequences. Really, what goes on beyond our shores with respect to their own drug laws shouldn't concern us. You can bet they'll watch and learn from either our good fortune ... or our mistakes.
As I said above, Drugs are an international business. If you can convince Canadian Organized crime groups to not sell locally grown drugs around the world good luck to ya.
It's not a matter of foreign drug laws. Most countries ban drugs. Yet the world is gripped by a drugs crisis. So obviously drug laws across the world are being ignored. The same will hold true if weed is legalized here.
Grow ops are used to fund international organized crime. These groups already "take it upon themselves to export". Nothing will change if marijuana becomes legal here.
It's not a matter of foreign drug laws. Most countries ban drugs. Yet the world is gripped by a drugs crisis. So obviously drug laws across the world are being ignored. The same will hold true if weed is legalized here.
Grow ops are used to fund international organized crime. These groups already "take it upon themselves to export". Nothing will change if marijuana becomes legal here.
Well legalization is dumb I agree with you there. Decriminalization is on the other hand exactly what should happen with pot. American authorities can do as they please to control their own borders. We can do the same. Removing the billions of dollars that is spent on the war on drugs here and applying it to controling our own border is by far a better value. And internally the more free pot there is, the less people will spend on expensive pot. That was shown in the illegal cigarette problem when they raised the taxes on them.
Decrim takes the money out of the hands of organized crime which in turn helps to stop the trade in guns and dangerous hard drugs.
The distribution system is as it always has been, done through friends to save a little cash.
Huge grow ops will become a thing of the past.