Found this interesting little piece of news....
http://cnews.canoe.ca/CNEWS/Science/2008/04/24/5375966-ap.html
http://cnews.canoe.ca/CNEWS/Science/2008/04/24/5375966-ap.html
Humans Nearly Extinct 70,000 Years Ago
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Almost extinct, I wonder what the planet would be like now without us.What species would have risen to the top? What would god be doing ? Saving rats from infernal damnation? Sacrificing his only litter for them? Would bugs have built cathedrawls? Interesting to think about though.
No barbaric bloodlust among humans disguised as hockey and bull fighting, road rage and Munchausens by Proxy as rationalization for mothers murdering their children, no obesity among human beings proliferated as prosperity and progress by gargantuan multi-national corporations, no destruction devastation and mayhem complete with poison gas, napalm, nuclear bombs and bio-weapons, practices routinely undertaken by people deciding who should and shouldn't enjoy the same "rights" as someone else, and so on....
"I'm going to share something with you I learned while attempting to classify your species..." The only living organism that has to spread and in spreading consume everything around it until nothing is left and so has to move on to consume everything around it.... Only the virus is similar to human beings but the virus lacks the hubris to claim metaphysical "right" to its perversions.
"I'm going to share something with you I learned while attempting to classify your species..." The only living organism that has to spread and in spreading consume everything around it until nothing is left and so has to move on to consume everything around it.... Only the virus is similar to human beings but the virus lacks the hubris to claim metaphysical "right" to its perversions.
Would rats have developed thumbs as they rushed into the niche left by man? And having done that would they have developed civilization enabling them to consume thier environment?
Holy **** Mike:
You and I gotta get drunk some time, ok!!
I'll buy.
draft beer.
bletch
ukeright:
Another possibility is we descend from a hybrid. The further back the more human like species existed, until now its just us and the great apes.
http://anthropology.si.edu/humanorigins/ha/a_tree.html
http://anthropology.si.edu/humanorigins/ha/a_tree.html
What the article was talking about is a near extinction 70 000 years ago, when your chart shows homosapiens as a distinct species.
Why think we are the first intelligent life on Earth? Watched a show a while back about the world without humans. Seems that after around 10,000 years you would be hard pushed to find any lasting evidence we had ever been here. So what about 2,000,000 years ago or 200,000,000 ago, why not other intelligences been and gone. If we would disappear in much less time who knows what happened that long ago..
A very interesting idead, one that's been explored for a long time (Atlantis) there are artifacts that seem out of place there is literature that seems unlikly there are there are there are
Damn Mike, get a hug
One thing that crossed my memory reading this would be a song I was listening to this morning by The Trews:
"Without The Dark, The Stars Can't Shine."
Life is a balance of good things and bad things. Certain people tend to focus on positives and some more on the negatives.
Without the negatives we can't have positives and vice versa.
That's why Gannon and Link keep coming back in each Zelda game.... the struggle never ends between good and bad. That's how we learn and evolve.
And if it wasn't us doing all these things, then it'd be those evil Dolphins. *shakes fist*
It was a very close thing for a while but Ugh finally got the spear working. Much better than throwing rocks. The stone knife was important as well. You wouldn't believe how much better roasted animals tasted when they were skinned and eviscerated first. ........:smile:
The genetic evidence tells us that initially humans were few in number. Near extinction is one possible explanation for the genetic evidence. Hybridization is another.
We are not that different from Bonobos.
I'm suggesting that another possible explanation of low initial numbers is that all homo sapians descend from crossbreeding two protohuman species. The original hybrid(s) would be unlike their parents.
Another possibility is that God intervened and created Adam and Eve.
Likely other possible explanations exist. We don't have enough evidence yet to explain our origin.
Damn Mike, get a hug
Life is a balance of good things and bad things. Certain people tend to focus on positives and some more on the negatives.
Without the negatives we can't have positives and vice versa.
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You're absolutely right Prax. However when the "bad" is disguised as "good" how realiable can your choices be? We believed that we could mine all the ore catch all the fish, level all the trees and pave over the world. All "good" things right? We believed that prosperity came from "good credit" and "success" was measured by the model make and year of the car you drive. We embraced the myth that technology would save us all from our mistakes and our poor choices, what we find is that this technology we so enthusiastically embraced leaches the soul out of human beings and requires we unleash billions of tons of carbon locked far underground for millenia.
We bought the line that "happiness" lay in 'owning' a lovely little home with a white picket fence with a color TV to fill in those moments between chores and making a living when actually the TV was and is tantamount to sitting down to breakfast with every greedy grasping ad-man and corrupt millionaire who ever lived. We believed that the "convenience" of disposable containers and readily accessible "fast-food" was a measure of our technological social and spiritual prosperity. We believed that the axiom of "go to school get an education = carreer opportunities and "success" but we limited the numbers who could get that education by pricing it out of the range of all but the most well to-do and now we have kids with McJobs and a future of cleaning up all the excesses of generations that willingly ignored the consequences of their behavior.
We live in those consequences today as they unravel around us. We feel alone and frustrated, helpless and impotent. We laughed as we put all our eggs into special baskets from which the wealthy and the influential took as they felt while the remainder of the worlds people starved and killed each other over a bag of rice or a few pounds of flour.
We "chose" to put all our "energy eggs" into one basket and now there's a clamor for wind tubines and tidal generators, solar collectors and geothermal energy becasue we weren't told that the thin veneer of "prosperity" we lived on was predicated on ignorance and a willing disinformation promulgated by the wealthy few.
Sure there are "postitives" to point at, we've created a medical and pharmaceutical expertise second to none...unfortunately millions in the lands of great wealth and prosperity can't afford to avail themselves of this marvellous happenstance. We've journeyed into space and visited the moon, while drugs and prostitution, pornography and unrelenting greed undermined and devastated huge enclaves of "prosperity" and "growth".
Half a world away millions starve to death as routine and wars of greedy dicatators vying for the resources the Mr. and Mrs. American and Mr. and Mrs. Canada so ernestly covet now and in the future.
Sure lot's of good and lots of bad.
Damn Mike, get a hug
One thing that crossed my memory reading this would be a song I was listening to this morning by The Trews:
"Without The Dark, The Stars Can't Shine."
Life is a balance of good things and bad things. Certain people tend to focus on positives and some more on the negatives.
Without the negatives we can't have positives and vice versa.
That's why Gannon and Link keep coming back in each Zelda game.... the struggle never ends between good and bad. That's how we learn and evolve.
And if it wasn't us doing all these things, then it'd be those evil Dolphins. *shakes fist*
I'm bad at being good, and good at being bad. Is that good or bad?:lol: