Bright Spark
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Location: Edmonton
April 24th, 2008, 05:32 PM
Found this interesting little piece of news....
http://cnews.canoe.ca/CNEWS/Science/...375966-ap.html
Found this interesting little piece of news....
http://cnews.canoe.ca/CNEWS/Science/...375966-ap.html
Hawkings former plumber
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April 24th, 2008, 06:19 PM
Almost extinct, I wonder what the planet would be like now without us.What species would have risen to the top? What would god be doing ? Saving rats from infernal damnation? Sacrificing his only litter for them? Would bugs have built cathedrawls? Interesting to think about though.
Almost extinct, I wonder what the planet would be like now without us.What species would have risen to the top? What would god be doing ? Saving rats from infernal damnation? Sacrificing his only litter for them? Would bugs have built cathedrawls? Interesting to think about though.
Steven Hawking's Tutor
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April 24th, 2008, 07:18 PM
No barbaric bloodlust among humans disguised as hockey and bull fighting, road rage and Munchausens by Proxy as rationalization for mothers murdering their children, no obesity among human beings proliferated as prosperity and progress by gargantuan multi-national corporations, no destruction devastation and mayhem complete with poison gas, napalm, nuclear bombs and bio-weapons, practices routinely undertaken by people deciding who should and shouldn't enjoy the same "rights" as someone else, and so on....
"I'm going to share something with you I learned while attempting to classify your species..." The only living organism that has to spread and in spreading consume everything around it until nothing is left and so has to move on to consume everything around it.... Only the virus is similar to human beings but the virus lacks the hubris to claim metaphysical "right" to its perversions.
No barbaric bloodlust among humans disguised as hockey and bull fighting, road rage and Munchausens by Proxy as rationalization for mothers murdering their children, no obesity among human beings proliferated as prosperity and progress by gargantuan multi-national corporations, no destruction devastation and mayhem complete with poison gas, napalm, nuclear bombs and bio-weapons, practices routinely undertaken by people deciding who should and shouldn't enjoy the same "rights" as someone else, and so on....
"I'm going to share something with you I learned while attempting to classify your species..." The only living organism that has to spread and in spreading consume everything around it until nothing is left and so has to move on to consume everything around it.... Only the virus is similar to human beings but the virus lacks the hubris to claim metaphysical "right" to its perversions.
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April 24th, 2008, 07:27 PM
Would rats have developed thumbs as they rushed into the niche left by man? And having done that would they have developed civilization enabling them to consume thier environment?
Would rats have developed thumbs as they rushed into the niche left by man? And having done that would they have developed civilization enabling them to consume thier environment?
Knows Too Much
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Location: Backwater, Ontario.
Location: Backwater, Ontario.
April 24th, 2008, 08:54 PM
You and I gotta get drunk some time, ok!!
I'll buy.
draft beer.
bletch
Quoting MikeyDB
Holy **** Mike:
No barbaric bloodlust among humans disguised as hockey and bull fighting, road rage and Munchausens by Proxy as rationalization for mothers murdering their children, no obesity among human beings proliferated as prosperity and progress by gargantuan multi-national corporations, no destruction devastation and mayhem complete with poison gas, napalm, nuclear bombs and bio-weapons, practices routinely undertaken by people deciding who should and shouldn't enjoy the same "rights" as someone else, and so on....
"I'm going to share something with you I learned while attempting to classify your species..." The only living organism that has to spread and in spreading consume everything around it until nothing is left and so has to move on to consume everything around it.... Only the virus is similar to human beings but the virus lacks the hubris to claim metaphysical "right" to its perversions.
"I'm going to share something with you I learned while attempting to classify your species..." The only living organism that has to spread and in spreading consume everything around it until nothing is left and so has to move on to consume everything around it.... Only the virus is similar to human beings but the virus lacks the hubris to claim metaphysical "right" to its perversions.
You and I gotta get drunk some time, ok!!
I'll buy.
draft beer.
bletch
Super Genius
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April 24th, 2008, 10:19 PM
Another possibility is we descend from a hybrid. The further back the more human like species existed, until now its just us and the great apes.
http://anthropology.si.edu/humanorigins/ha/a_tree.html
Another possibility is we descend from a hybrid. The further back the more human like species existed, until now its just us and the great apes.
http://anthropology.si.edu/humanorigins/ha/a_tree.html
April 24th, 2008, 10:50 PM
Quoting earth_as_one
What the article was talking about is a near extinction 70 000 years ago, when your chart shows homosapiens as a distinct species.
Another possibility is we descend from a hybrid. The further back the more human like species existed, until now its just us and the great apes.
http://anthropology.si.edu/humanorigins/ha/a_tree.html
http://anthropology.si.edu/humanorigins/ha/a_tree.html
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April 25th, 2008, 06:45 AM
Why think we are the first intelligent life on Earth? Watched a show a while back about the world without humans. Seems that after around 10,000 years you would be hard pushed to find any lasting evidence we had ever been here. So what about 2,000,000 years ago or 200,000,000 ago, why not other intelligences been and gone. If we would disappear in much less time who knows what happened that long ago..
Why think we are the first intelligent life on Earth? Watched a show a while back about the world without humans. Seems that after around 10,000 years you would be hard pushed to find any lasting evidence we had ever been here. So what about 2,000,000 years ago or 200,000,000 ago, why not other intelligences been and gone. If we would disappear in much less time who knows what happened that long ago..
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April 25th, 2008, 07:27 AM
Quoting FUBAR
A very interesting idead, one that's been explored for a long time (Atlantis) there are artifacts that seem out of place there is literature that seems unlikly there are there are there are
Why think we are the first intelligent life on Earth? Watched a show a while back about the world without humans. Seems that after around 10,000 years you would be hard pushed to find any lasting evidence we had ever been here. So what about 2,000,000 years ago or 200,000,000 ago, why not other intelligences been and gone. If we would disappear in much less time who knows what happened that long ago..
Mass'Debater
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April 25th, 2008, 07:39 AM
OH ME, OH MY!
Quoting darkbeaver
squeak umm squeak squeak squeak faster umm oh oh oh oh your whiskers
OH ME, OH MY!
Mass'Debater
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April 25th, 2008, 07:45 AM
One thing that crossed my memory reading this would be a song I was listening to this morning by The Trews:
"Without The Dark, The Stars Can't Shine."
Life is a balance of good things and bad things. Certain people tend to focus on positives and some more on the negatives.
Without the negatives we can't have positives and vice versa.
That's why Gannon and Link keep coming back in each Zelda game.... the struggle never ends between good and bad. That's how we learn and evolve.
And if it wasn't us doing all these things, then it'd be those evil Dolphins. *shakes fist*
Quoting MikeyDB
Damn Mike, get a hug
No barbaric bloodlust among humans disguised as hockey and bull fighting, road rage and Munchausens by Proxy as rationalization for mothers murdering their children, no obesity among human beings proliferated as prosperity and progress by gargantuan multi-national corporations, no destruction devastation and mayhem complete with poison gas, napalm, nuclear bombs and bio-weapons, practices routinely undertaken by people deciding who should and shouldn't enjoy the same "rights" as someone else, and so on....
"I'm going to share something with you I learned while attempting to classify your species..." The only living organism that has to spread and in spreading consume everything around it until nothing is left and so has to move on to consume everything around it.... Only the virus is similar to human beings but the virus lacks the hubris to claim metaphysical "right" to its perversions.
"I'm going to share something with you I learned while attempting to classify your species..." The only living organism that has to spread and in spreading consume everything around it until nothing is left and so has to move on to consume everything around it.... Only the virus is similar to human beings but the virus lacks the hubris to claim metaphysical "right" to its perversions.
One thing that crossed my memory reading this would be a song I was listening to this morning by The Trews:
"Without The Dark, The Stars Can't Shine."
Life is a balance of good things and bad things. Certain people tend to focus on positives and some more on the negatives.
Without the negatives we can't have positives and vice versa.
That's why Gannon and Link keep coming back in each Zelda game.... the struggle never ends between good and bad. That's how we learn and evolve.
And if it wasn't us doing all these things, then it'd be those evil Dolphins. *shakes fist*
Chief Mogrifier
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April 25th, 2008, 10:40 AM
It was a very close thing for a while but Ugh finally got the spear working. Much better than throwing rocks. The stone knife was important as well. You wouldn't believe how much better roasted animals tasted when they were skinned and eviscerated first. ........
It was a very close thing for a while but Ugh finally got the spear working. Much better than throwing rocks. The stone knife was important as well. You wouldn't believe how much better roasted animals tasted when they were skinned and eviscerated first. ........
Super Genius
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April 26th, 2008, 01:10 AM
We are not that different from Bonobos.
Another possibility is that God intervened and created Adam and Eve.
Likely other possible explanations exist. We don't have enough evidence yet to explain our origin.
Quoting karrie
The genetic evidence tells us that initially humans were few in number. Near extinction is one possible explanation for the genetic evidence. Hybridization is another.
What the article was talking about is a near extinction 70 000 years ago, when your chart shows homosapiens as a distinct species.
We are not that different from Bonobos.
Quote:
I'm suggesting that another possible explanation of low initial numbers is that all homo sapians descend from crossbreeding two protohuman species. The original hybrid(s) would be unlike their parents.
...The closest living relatives of Homo sapiens are the two chimpanzee species: the Common Chimpanzee and the Bonobo. Full genome sequencing resulted in the conclusion that "after 6.5 [million] years of separate evolution, the differences between chimpanzee and human are just 10 times greater than those between two unrelated people and 10 times less than those between rats and mice"...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human#Origin
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human#Origin
Another possibility is that God intervened and created Adam and Eve.
Likely other possible explanations exist. We don't have enough evidence yet to explain our origin.
