Quote: Originally Posted by jimshort19
The IAEA inspections have been thwarted. This particular act is enough to incite sanctions, then war.
That as well, is a load of crap. Their reports said that they only found trace amounts of uranium being produced but it was no where near any quality to produce a nuclear bomb, but rather, the equivilant to energy output. Their report was concluded and completed, much like the ones for Iraq.
Oh true, they didn't permit them to go into every place they wanted, because some things are restricted due to national security. Something I believe the US would understand. Much as the reason why they were not permitted into some places in Iraq.... National Security, and ligitamate reasons at that.
Tell me something? If I sent in a bunch of UN watchdogs into the US to check to see what kind of nuclear technology they are trying to create, how much do you want to bet they won't get access to all locations they request, due to "National Security?"
Do you possibly see the major twist and hypocracy in this approach?
Oh.... ok... Therefore since they were doing exactly what the US or any other country would do, they deserve, as you put it: "This particular act is enough to incite sanctions, then war."
It's the mentality like this that's got everything so fuct up right now in the world, and it's mentality like this that's going to kill the majority of the human race in the not so distant future.
Bush has contradictory intelligence and is forced to pick and choose. He chose badly on Iraq. There is a possibility of choosing badly on Iran. Iran may have thwarted the IAEA expressly to vex the U.S. for reasons that I'm not a good enough conspiracy theorist to know, except I know that Saddam did the same. He his a nuclear program that was a joke and couldn't build a bomb in a hundred years.
Then don't you believe the original reports? As well as the US's Intelligence report that said that Iran discontinued any nuclear weapons program a few years ago? If History is starting to repeat, do you not think it is wise to learn from past mistakes before we repeat?
Do not act in military fashion until solid evidence is proven. Visual evidence, audio evidence, captured by various allied nations in co-ordination to keep transparency over the evidence provided. It's not difficult. Get some UK, US, and perhaps some of us, if we have one (It's so mysterious.... OOoooo
) and do some old Cold War stuff and show what's really going on.
It's not hard. They did it against the Soviet Union for decades, I'm sure they can do the same with Iran.
In fact.... Go get Austin Powers and James Bond together to find out what's going on. I'm sure it'd make a great Comedy.
But going around and bullying around other countries and blowing them up because they don't do what you want them to, ain't gonna work.... Iran doesn't have Gangsta High Schools like the US to understand that tactic. They'll shove their Finger right at the whole thing, just as I would.
And whatever happened to attacking and invading a country, only when they attack or invade a country? That's what peace is.... Not using war to get what you want.... That's what Hitler tried to do and they rest of the world would only put up with it for so long.
As well as Nepolean, and Khan, Not just trying to relate to Hitler, but anyone who invades to get what they want, for whatever reason (Territory/Oil/Making it a country you can get money from)
But who's the one who's been invading country after country in the last 8 years? And now talking about invading Iran to make it a tripple threat.
North Korea, Russia and many other countries are starting to get a little pissed that their allies are getting invaded when they request the US not to.... They will only put up with it for so long.
..... The shoe is on the other foot.... If Iran is invaded... World War III will start. I was born and raised with a father in the military, who collected an entire basement full of WWII uniforms, weapons, tools, medals, flags, everything. Every part of my immediate family has operated in some form of the forces, including myself. I know pretty well how WWII started, and I know pretty well where we are going as we speak. I maybe young, but I'm not stupid. I also grew up in the Pictou County area of NS, and there's a lot of herritage there with the great wars and what the Highlanders achieved.
If Bush is allowed to continue with this two-faced BS of lieing to the Media and Public and doing another behind our backs, then I would suggest everyone getting out of any major city and port. That's not a conspiracy, that's just plain logical common sense of one's past.
And yes, I am also aware that my parents were worried that the Cold War was going to be WWIII.... but the Cold War didn't play out anywhere near as this when it comes to similarities. The only problem, is we see ourselves as the good guys, continually believing the propaganda (Yes, it still exists) and that we could never do something like that.
We wouldn't invade countries to make them our own, heavens no! We'll just make them similar to ours to cover our ***.
Sure there's no concentration camps, that we know of..... although there are those "terrorist detention centers" Hmmmm... but also, let's not forget....WWIII hasn't start just yet. There's still time. This time it'll be either Muslims or Christians being killed off.... possibly both.
To be perfectly honest with my opinion: I'm ashamed to be allied to the US. But hey! That's the lovely thing about freedom of speech, Eh?
Last edited by Praxius; Jan 14th, 2008 at 06:07 PM..