Girl dead for not wearing burka


#juan
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Peel Regional Police on Tuesday released the name of a 16-year-old Mississauga teen who died after allegedly being attacked by her father.
Aqsa Parvez was found in her Longhorn Trail home on Monday morning without any vital signs.
Paramedics managed to revive her and took her to Toronto's Sick Children's Hospital where she died late Monday night.
Police said they received a call from a man who said he'd just killed his daughter.

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#juan
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Another death in the name of someone's stupid religion. The girl didn't want to wear a hijab. I can't understand people who immigrate to this country to make a new start in a free country and bring with them the worst of the old country.
 
warrior_won
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This fathers attack on his daughter was probably proper. It is unfortunate that the daughter died as a result, but she had to learn to conform. We as a society cannot and should not tolerate renegades like this man's daughter.

I hope that the courts see that this man was justified in his actions. The daughter was clearly in the wrong for not doing as she was told.
 
s243a
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Quote: Originally Posted by warrior_wonView Post

This fathers attack on his daughter was probably proper. It is unfortunate that the daughter died as a result, but she had to learn to conform. We as a society cannot and should not tolerate renegades like this man's daughter.

I hope that the courts see that this man was justified in his actions. The daughter was clearly in the wrong for not doing as she was told.

Are you a troll or do you really hate freedom?
 
#juan
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Quote: Originally Posted by warrior_wonView Post

This fathers attack on his daughter was probably proper. It is unfortunate that the daughter died as a result, but she had to learn to conform. We as a society cannot and should not tolerate renegades like this man's daughter.

I hope that the courts see that this man was justified in his actions. The daughter was clearly in the wrong for not doing as she was told.

I will assume you are joking.
 
warrior_won
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Quote: Originally Posted by s243aView Post

Are you a troll or do you really hate freedom?

I was being sarcastic. I am one of the precious few for whom our government has elected to deny freedom.

Whenever I see something tragic happen in this country, I take the position that the tragedy was justified for some outrageously insane reason. Just as a reminder to my foes that their rationale finds little sympathy with the world.
 
s243a
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Quote: Originally Posted by warrior_wonView Post

I was being sarcastic. I am one of the precious few for whom our government has elected to deny freedom.

Whenever I see something tragic happen in this country, I take the position that the tragedy was justified for some outrageously insane reason. Just as a reminder to my foes that their rationale finds little sympathy with the world.

You have me slightly curious about your story. Have you posted it in another thread?
 
EagleSmack
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Tolerance people.... tolerance. Who are we to judge other religions or the manner in which they deal with their children.

islam is a peaceful religion and muslims are gentle people.
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islam is a peaceful religion and muslims are a gentle people.
<slams head on desk>
islam is a peaceful religion and muslims are a gentle people.
 
lone wolf
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Tolerance? How can multi-culturalism work if it is the mandate of certain cultures to rule all. Eag, this is one of those places I think USA has the right idea. Love it or leave it....

Woof!
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warrior_won
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Quote: Originally Posted by s243aView Post

You have me slightly curious about your story. Have you posted it in another thread?

"Somewhere like a scene from a memory, there's a picture worth a thousand words. Eluding stares from faces before me, it hides away and will never be heard of again.

Deceit is the second without end"

-- Metropolis, Part I, "The Miracle and the Sleeper"

 
Logic 7
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Quote: Originally Posted by #juanView Post

Another death in the name of someone's stupid religion. The girl didn't want to wear a hijab. I can't understand people who immigrate to this country to make a new start in a free country and bring with them the worst of the old country.

There is nothing in there that proves, that the father killed his daughter,for the reason it is said in the article.
It is her friends who says that she has been having arguement about whether or not she wear the traditionel hijab.

Maybe you guys should wait a little before making such comments.

It is incredible how you guys are easy to manipulate.
 
EagleSmack
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Quote: Originally Posted by Logic 7View Post

There is nothing in there that proves, that the father killed his daughter,for the reason it is said in the article.
It is her friends who says that she has been having arguement about whether or not she wear the traditionel hijab.

Maybe you guys should wait a little before making such comments.

It is incredible how you guys are easy to manipulate.

There you go Logic! That's what I am talking about. There must be a perfectly good reason for him killing his daughter. Canada should be much more patient in dealing with muslims that slaughter their children.
 
warrior_won
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Quote: Originally Posted by EagleSmackView Post

There you go Logic! That's what I am talking about. There must be a perfectly good reason for him killing his daughter. Canada should be much more patient in dealing with muslims that slaughter their children.

Actually, Logic is right. The father called police and said that he had just killed his daughter. He may not have killed her. It's possible that her death was not his fault at all. She may have died of some other cause that remains undetermined until an autopsy is performed.

You don't know what happened. She may have had an anuerysm of the aorta that ruptured at a most inopportune time. The father can hardly be held responsible for a pre-existing medical condition that may have actually been responsible for her death.

It's terrible that you should jump all over this man simply because he is of the Muslim faith. If this man had not been Muslim, you would have given him the benefit of the doubt and waited for the facts to be presented. But like som many Americans, you have bought into the terrorism hysteria and the notion that people of Islam are bad people. Lighten up, dude!
 
darkbeaver
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Quote: Originally Posted by #juanView Post

Another death in the name of someone's stupid religion. The girl didn't want to wear a hijab. I can't understand people who immigrate to this country to make a new start in a free country and bring with them the worst of the old country.

Think back 300 years, it'll refresh your memory.
 
darkbeaver
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I sence a lynchin comin, don't start without me I got to get some popcorn on.
 
#juan
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Quote: Originally Posted by darkbeaverView Post

Think back 300 years, it'll refresh your memory.

No it won't.

I've traced my family back over three hundred years and not one of them ever killed his daughter for wearing the wrong clothes.
Canadian Confederation was in 1867 and it has always been illegal in this country to kill your family or anyone else for their choice of wardrobe.
 
EagleSmack
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People People! Wait now.

She may have had an aneurysm (sic whatev) while he was beating her to death. We can't rush this. I mean he only called and said...

"I killed my daughter."

How do we know if he did? Just because she was without life when the EMT's got there means nothing.
 
#juan
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Quote: Originally Posted by EagleSmackView Post

People People! Wait now.

She may have had an aneurysm (sic whatev) while he was beating her to death. We can't rush this. I mean he only called and said...

"I killed my daughter."

How do we know if he did? Just because she was without life when the EMT's got there means nothing.

We have a major problem right there. He didn't stipulate which daughter....
 
karrie
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I have to say, I'm glad this happened in North America. Because when men beat women to death here (and no, Muslims aren't the only ones who beat their children to death over issues of control.... don't kid yourselves), they go to jail, regardless of the reason. No excuses. That's pretty awesome. Good move choice on his part.
 
#juan
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Quote: Originally Posted by karrieView Post

I have to say, I'm glad this happened in North America. Because when men beat women to death here (and no, Muslims aren't the only ones who beat their children to death over issues of control.... don't kid yourselves), they go to jail, regardless of the reason. No excuses. That's pretty awesome. Good move choice on his part.

I don't know Karrie. Muslims are likely the only ones who beat their kids to death for not wearing the "right" religious clothing but I won't get started on that.
 
karrie
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Quote: Originally Posted by #juanView Post

I don't know Karrie. Muslims are likely the only ones who beat their kids to death for not wearing the "right" religious clothing but I won't get started on that.

There's always a stupid issue juan. There's always SOMEthing that someone did to 'deserve' being beaten to death. I don't get why the lack of a burka gets anymore attention in the media than a kid getting her face pierced and being beaten to death for it. Or dying her hair. Or having the wrong boyfriend. Or staying out late. There's always SOMEthing.

Like I said, I'm just glad it happened here where we don't excuse stupid 'reasons'.
 
darkbeaver
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Quote: Originally Posted by karrieView Post

I have to say, I'm glad this happened in North America. Because when men beat women to death here (and no, Muslims aren't the only ones who beat their children to death over issues of control.... don't kid yourselves), they go to jail, regardless of the reason. No excuses. That's pretty awesome. Good move choice on his part.

Exactly Karrie, this is just another example of male on female violence gone horribly wrong, nobody can count the little girls beat and abused by there fathers in North America, and beat to death and worse. It's just another example of violence that realy has nothing to do with religion or god or country of origin.
 
lone wolf
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Exactly the reason Shiara Law should stay where it is and those who want it can go live where it is....

Woof!
 
#juan
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Quote: Originally Posted by darkbeaverView Post

Exactly Karrie, this is just another example of male on female violence gone horribly wrong, nobody can count the little girls beat and abused by there fathers in North America, and beat to death and worse. It's just another example of violence that realy has nothing to do with religion or god or country of origin.

I don't think you can equate male on female violence in Muslim countries with that in North America. It is not even close.
 
karrie
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Quote: Originally Posted by #juanView Post

I don't think you can equate male on female violence in Muslim countries with that in North America. It is not even close.

and yet the leading cause of death for pregnant and recently postnatal women in North America is murder at the hands of the baby's father.
 
darkbeaver
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Quote: Originally Posted by #juanView Post

I don't think you can equate male on female violence in Muslim countries with that in North America. It is not even close.

Untill you can find some reliable evidence to the contrary with a link I think I can. Violence against women has absolutely nothing to do with religion, but it does have everything to do with men.
 
Unforgiven
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Still a tragic end to something that happens thousands of times a day in Canada with the struggle for independence and the fleeting grasp of control a parent has over youth. Regardless of the cause, it should be a call for more awareness and if need be a boost to facilitate the sheltering of anyone from an abusive situation.
 
karrie
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I can't remember if it was the article on yahoo or the one that juan posted the link to, but one of them stated that the girl had expressed fear of the men in her family. That's a Canadian failing right there... that people knew she was scared of them to the point of considering running away, and yet no one intervened. We can't blame that on the middle eastern way of life... that's our own culture failing a child.
 
lone wolf
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Quote: Originally Posted by karrieView Post

I can't remember if it was the article on yahoo or the one that juan posted the link to, but one of them stated that the girl had expressed fear of the men in her family. That's a Canadian failing right there... that people knew she was scared of them to the point of considering running away, and yet no one intervened. We can't blame that on the middle eastern way of life... that's our own culture failing a child.

Intervene?
Ask daddy if daughter has a reason to fear. Remember, she is a minor so daddy has rights. Daddy says no, then beats daughter.
Police or social services go to door. Daddy is properly respectful and has no prior history. Law's hands are tied. Daughter gets beating.
Good Samaritin offers daughter avenue for escape. Daddy, Uncles, Brothers and entire male muslim community seek out daughter. Rescuer is accused of nasty things. Daughter is beaten.
That's not a cultural failing. That's a legal failing.

Woof!
 
#juan
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Violence against women and girls takes many forms:
  • At least 60 million girls who would otherwise be expected to be alive are "missing" from various populations, mostly in Asia, as a result of sex-selective abortions, infanticide or neglect;
  • Studies suggest domestic violence is widespread in most societies and is a frequent cause of suicides among women;
  • Rape and other forms of sexual violence are increasing. Many rapes go unreported because of the stigma and trauma associated with them and the lack of sympathetic treatment from legal systems. Estimates of the proportion of rapes reported to authorities vary — from less than 3 per cent in South Africa to about 16 per cent in the United States;
  • Two million girls between ages 5 and 15 are introduced into the commercial sex market each year;
  • At least 130 million women have been forced to undergo female genital mutilation or cutting; another 2 million are at risk each year from this degrading and dangerous practice;
  • So-called "honour" killings take the lives of thousands of young women every year, mainly in Western Asia, North Africa and parts of South Asia. At least 1,000 women were murdered in Pakistan in 1999.
  • How many of these little factoids are about North America?
  • About a hundred women are murdered annually in Canada.
 

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