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Oops, sorry Toro, but wrong again. If it had a dollar sign in front of it you'd understand it better.....or perhaps that is why you don't.
Stop being such a jackass Avro.
I merely asked a question.
You will not find me anywhere arguing that global warming is not happening, nor that it is caused by man, though I do not like the shrillness of the debate - which you are demonstrating with your "witty" retort - nor the marginalization of the academic critics who argue otherwise.
Thanks for demonstrating the "climate of smear" though.
No, they are not. Mars regularly undergoes seasonal changes. Winds blow the lighter sand off darker surfaces which then absorb more heat. Neptune is a gas giant that likely gives off more heat than it takes in.
The debate about global warming for many people is more about ideology than science, as Avro clearly demonstrated in his ad hominem attack on me for asking a question.
I believe it is happening, and that mankind is responsible, but anybody with a serious approach to the issue will consider all the evidence, not parts the fit a pre-conceived worldview. And if evidence arises that alters our opinion, ideology should not be a barrier.
The scientist will change his opinion in light of contrary evidence. The ideology will retain his opinion despite contrary evidence.
Conditions on other planets are meaningless. The only comparison we can make between other planets is that they all have different climates to our own.
When a study comes along to show trends in planets like Mars or Neptune or any other planet, they use models, which our climatologists have been using for quite some time, and have had ample opportunity for fine tuning. Strange how a model based approach on another planet could be so convincing to those who would trash our own.
Kudos to Toro. A great illustration of the dichotomy.