Arab Summit extends land-for-peace offer to Israel

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...Imagine sitting in an outside cafe in downtown Windsor and a Metis strapped to a bomb came in to blow the hell out of the place.....!

Its too bad people can't see why these people resort to desperate measures:


Palestinian children pay price of Israel's Summer Rain offensive
Rights group says 197 civilians have been killed in military operation, including 48 minors

Rory McCarthy in Gaza City
Thursday September 7, 2006
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Palestinian Hosam Sersawi, 6, lies in a critical condition in intensive care at the Shifa hospital in Gaza City after being wounded Israeli sniper fire. Photograph: Khalil Hamra/AP,00.html (external - login to view)

Israel does not consider Palestinians human beings.


Israel: Failure to Probe Civilian Casualties Fuels Impunity


(Jerusalem, June 22, 2005) — The Israeli military has fostered a climate of impunity in its ranks by failing to thoroughly investigate whether soldiers have killed and injured Palestinian civilians unlawfully or failed to protect them from harm, Human Rights Watch said in a report released today.
Since the current Palestinian uprising began in 2000, Israeli forces have killed or seriously injured thousands of Palestinians who were not taking part in the hostilities. However, the Israeli authorities have investigated fewer than five percent of the fatal incidents to determine whether soldiers were responsible for using force unlawfully. The investigations they did conduct fell far short of international standards for independent and impartial inquiries.
The 126-page report, “Promoting Impunity: The Israeli Military’s Failure to Investigate Wrongdoing,” documents how Israel has failed in its legal obligation to investigate civilian deaths and injuries...

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Even Israeli historians acknowledge that Israel is in the process of wiping Palestine and Palestinians off the map.


Ilan Pappe: Israeli Jewish myths and the prospect of American war

Interview by Greg Dropkin
Published: 13/09/02

Dr. Ilan Pappe is an Israeli historian at Haifa University who writes on the Israeli-Palestinian conflict...

I think there are 3 main myths that inform mainstream Israeli Jewish society. A lot of them still believe, because that’s the way they have been educated, that Palestine had been empty when the Jewish settlers came there in the late 19th century. There is still a feeling there that basically the Palestinian inhabitants of Palestine are either a nuisance or newcomers, or irrelevant. They are an obstacle, but not people with rights or indigenous rights.

The second myth is more directly connected to 1948. Most Israeli Jews believe that the Palestinians left voluntarily in 1948. They are not aware, or do not want to be aware of the fact that an ethnic cleansing took place in 1948.
And the third myth concerns the Occupation... (external - login to view)

Im sorry Earth as One

But Israel doesn't exist, how can it hate anyone?

You said it yourself, violence solves nothing. And nothing the Palestinians have suffered through Justify it.

And knock it off with talking about how "much they suffered". Of the many, many oppressed groups on this planet, the Palestinians aren't even on the bottom half of the "Shiddy-Life-O-Meter"

Go to Sierra Leonne, Go to Rwanda, Go to Indo-China, Go to Indonesia then talk about what real suffering is. While far from Living in a Paradise, in the grande scheme of the World the Palestinians are better off on a bad day than many, MANY people are on their best days.

And many of those groups avoid resorting to violence, even as they are hacked to bits with Machettes.

The Palestinians choose to live by the sword, so to will they die by the sword. Israel may suffer the same fate, but that doesn't change the choice the Palestinians have made.
```My point being, most of the left claim to be pacifists as well.```

Really? I don't know of any lefties who are pacifists -- perhaps that's something that goes on in Canada. Here in the States, lefties are far more inclined to enlist and fight in wars than the righties who love to stand by and watch as everyone else does their fighting for them.

```Israel's ... treatment of the Palestinians has been too high handed.```

That's why Albert Einstein and Hannah Arendt called it a fascist state and why so many Orthodox as well as liberal Jews in the USA call it the same.
```They seem happy to be regular joes like the rest of us. So they pretty much know their place.```


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