The Americans planned to make him a suicide-bomber

darkbeaver

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karrie said:
Yeah, that's a credible looking source, with a well supported article.
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Don't be so quick to condemn the source Karrie nor the article, divide and conquer is the main weapon of the occupation forces and the tactic described in the article has a long history, particularly with respect to American para-military operations. The sectarian violence in Iraq was not unexpected it was activly promoted, part and parcel of the occupation, cheaper and more effective than committing ground forces. Promotion of Iraqi on Iraqi violence began in ernest with the bombing of the Mosque in Samara. Independent democratic Iraqi government is the last thing the Americans want, what's desired and being built now is a completely dependent client state, nothing less than that insures total success for the occupiers.:smile:
 
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I won't dismiss the idea that this sort of thing can happen. But I also won't buy it from that source or that article alone, that it's what happened in this particular case.
 
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karrie said:
I won't dismiss the idea that this sort of thing can happen. But I also won't buy it from that source or that article alone, that it's what happened in this particular case.
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It's good to look for all available source as you well know. There is no question about the tactic and it's employment however, it's history goes back before recording. Northern Ireland is another long study of similar tactics. It's not a matter of (can happen) it's the rule where conditions exist.:smile:
 
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A short history is in order. At the outset of the Occupation, Paul Bremer, the U.S. Proconsul during the early phase of the Occupation, issued an order dissolving the Iraqi State and disbanding the Iraqi Army and Police in order to create lawlessness and chaos. Bremer then hand-picked expatriate collaborators – most of them involved in crimes and acts of terrorism against the State of Iraq – and beguiled others to form the ‘Iraqi Governing Council’ (IGC). The IGC was based on ethnic and religious affiliations, and most of its members had lived outside Iraq for decades. Bremer’s aim was to divide Iraqis according to religion and ethnicity, which made the Iraqi people shiver in their sleep. The IGC continues to function today under the name of the “Iraqi Government” without any real power, reminiscent of the Nazis-imposed Vichy regime in France.

Furthermore, the U.S.-drafted Iraqi “Constitution” is designed specifically to divide the country on ethnic-religious lines. The so-called “federation” is euphemism for the geographical divisions of Iraq. The “Constitution” relegated women’s rights to the Stone Age and denied them equality. Before the Occupation, Iraq had one of the most progressive Constitutions in the Muslim World.

In addition, the U.S. launched a campaign of terror and assassinations – as the U.S. did in every country it invaded or which backed its military junta. It all started with the “Debaathification”; a euphemism for a murderous campaign orchestrated by the occupying forces. U.S. Special Forces in collaboration with the Israeli Mossad agents trained the pro-invasion militias (the Kurdish Peshmerga, the SCIRI Badr Brigades and other U.S.-trained militias) and began a reign of terror targeting anyone with anti-Occupation tendency. Hence, the U.S. Occupation – enforced by more than 200,000 U.S. troops and other foreign mercenaries – is the roots of the violence and destruction in Iraq today.

The aim is to terrorise the population and force them into ethnic or sectarian enclaves, suppress the anti-Occupation voices and deprive the Iraqi Resistance of protection (by the population) and resources. The campaign is based in part on the U.S. previous terror campaigns in El Salvador in the 1980s and in the former Yugoslavia in 1990s, and on Israel’s targeted assassinations of Palestinian unarmed men, women and children. Thousands of innocent Iraqi professionals were murdered in cold blood, including scientists, prominent politicians, Iraqi intellectuals, military officers and doctors. Even religious leaders and women opposing the Occupation are not immune from U.S. terror. Remember, all of this is known to Western mainstream media, journalists, pundits and NGOs; however, they continue to propagate the myths of “sectarian violence” and “civil war”. (See, Notes).

As http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article17359.htm
 
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karrie said:
Yeah, that's a credible looking source, with a well supported article.
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maybe these will help you come to terms with the fact that all is not as it appears....



BAGHDAD, Sept. 19 (Xinhuanet) -- Iraqi police detained two British soldiers in civilian clothes in the southern city Basra for firing on a police station on Monday, police said.
"Two persons wearing Arab uniforms opened fire at a police station in Basra. A police patrol followed the attackers and captured them to discover they were two British soldiers," an Interior Ministry source told Xinhua.
http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/2005-09/19/content_3514065.htm
“A few days ago, an American manned check point confiscated the driver license of a driver and told him to report to an American military camp near Baghdad airport for interrogation and in order to retrieve his license. The next day, the driver did visit the camp and he was allowed in the camp with his car. He was admitted to a room for an interrogation that lasted half an hour. At the end of the session, the American interrogator told him: ‘OK, there is nothing against you, but you do know that Iraq is now sovereign and is in charge of its own affairs. Hence, we have forwarded your papers and license to al-Kadhimia police station for processing. Therefore, go there with this clearance to reclaim your license. At the police station, ask for Lt. Hussain Mohammed who is waiting for you now. Go there now quickly, before he leaves his shift work”.

The driver did leave in a hurry, but was soon alarmed with a feeling that his car was driving as if carrying a heavy load, and he also became suspicious of a low flying helicopter that kept hovering overhead, as if trailing him. He stopped the car and inspected it carefully. He found nearly 100 kilograms of explosives hidden in the back seat and along the two back doors.

The only feasible explanation for this incidence is that the car was indeed booby trapped by the Americans and intended for the al-Khadimiya Shiite district of Baghdad. The helicopter was monitoring his movement and witnessing the anticipated “hideous attack by foreign elements”.

The same scenario was repeated in Mosul, in the north of Iraq. A car was confiscated along with the driver’s license. He did follow up on the matter and finally reclaimed his car but was told to go to a police station to reclaim his license. Fortunately for him, the car broke down on the way to the police station. The inspecting car mechanic discovered that the spare tire was fully laden with explosives."

http://globalresearch.ca/articles/KHA505A.html
 
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Man you guys would gobble ANY propaganda that was fed to you so long as it blamed Bush or the US Military.

What a bunch of sheep.
 
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