Sinn Fein leader Gerry Adams receives a number of a death threats

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Death threat to Gerry Adams


By PETE BELL
November 29, 2006


Gerry Adams, leader of the Irish republican party Sinn Fein (the political wing of the IRA terrorist group) has been sent death threats by Loyalists - those allied to the British. This comes just days after Loyalist soldier Michael Stone tried to blow up the Northern Ireland Assembly with bombs strapped to his waist as Gerry Adams and Martin McGuinness were inside it.




SINN Fein leader Gerry Adams has been warned by police about another threat to his life.

A party spokesman said: "Sinn Fein takes all of the recent threats seriously."

The latest threat comes almost two-and-a-half weeks after it emerged hard line republicans had threatened Mr Adams, Martin McGuinness and Gerry Kelly.

Sinn Fein's confirmation of the threat came just hours after a letter to a Belfast newspaper from the Loyalist Michael Stone said he had planned to kill Mr Adams and Mr McGuinness in the Northern Ireland Assembly last Friday.


Stormont, the Northern Ireland Assembly

Mr Stone was arrested after he tried to launch a bomb attack at Stormont.

A Sinn Fein spokesman said they were aware of the threat from a number of quarters to their leadership - not just from the British but from enemy republicans.

"We are very mindful that there are elements within the British system, within unionism, and some disaffected republicans who are opposed to the Sinn Fein strategy and are prepared to take extreme action to pursue their narrow agenda," he said.

"Sinn Fein will obviously take whatever precautions we can to minimise the danger but we will not be deflected from continuing to do the work we were elected to do."

Hardline republicans opposed to any move by Sinn Fein to endorse the Police Service of Northern Ireland are also believed to have threatened Mr Adams in recent weeks.

Sinn Fein is understood to be concerned that disaffected Provisional IRA members or members of existing dissident republican groups such as the Real IRA and the Continuity IRA are behind the security threats.

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Jay

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I suspect our very own General James Wolfe sent these threats. :wink:
 

Daz_Hockey

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I suspect our very own General James Wolfe sent these threats. :wink:

To be honest, I remember when his face was blurred and his voice concealed in the UK, his lot (along with the Unionists) are murderers, they murdered without pity, so therefore, I have no pity for them I'm afraid.

I also despise the contradictory way they are still allowed to raise money in the states to allow them to bomb and murder and torture people in the UK while a supposed "war on terror" is still going on.
 

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A couple of observations

It seems you canadians are even more clueless than your American neighbours about the situation in Northern Ireland, but just as eager to add your two cents. A couple of observations about this article and your comments however:

1. It refers to the Sinn Fein political party as terrorists, and Michael Stone as a "soldier".
2. It uses republican to imply a terrorist, and loyalist as someone who is "loyal to the uk".
3. It is Sinn Fein's path for peace that has made them the subject of loyalist and dis-affected republican targetting.
4. The IRA are not fund raising in America to bomb and murder and torture UK citizens. They have in fact disbanded and ceased all activities (save maybe a few rogue dissidents operating under a different name). Meanwhile Loyalist terrorists, such as Michael Stone, are still armed and active.
5. You ignore the murder and torture and degradation of Catholic Irish people in their own land that has been inflicted for generations by loyalist paramilitaries BEFORE the provisional IRA were even around. P-IRA were in fact a reaction to this, not a cause of it. Nationalist Irish people could not rely on their own security forces to protect them, as they, the Loyalist terrorist organisations, and the British army were all on the same side and often colluded in terrorist attrocities across Ireland, north and south. This is fact, not conspiracy theory. When they broke the civil rights movement, the IRA got powerful. It was initially a defensive organisation that later moved into the offensive.
6. Northern Ireland has long been ran by protestant militant clergymen who aimed to cleanse it of Irish and catholic influence. Meanwhile the British media machine has portrayed it as the victim of an Irish religious fanaticism to erradicate it of protestants. This is utterly, UTTERLY, nonsense.

Sinn Fein are VERY influential among republicans, and are of unmeasurable importance in creation and maintaining a peaceful and inclusive northern Ireland. Any attack on their leadership at this time is simply an attempt to break this peace. It is in loyalist interests to do this because they can't accept the idea of an inclusive northern Ireland where both sides of the community are represented. So who are the terrorists?
 

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PS Michael Stone was carrying a bag of bombs, he didn't have them strapped to his waist. You can watch the ordeal here:

More of Mr. Stones past exploits can be seen here:
 

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It seems you canadians are even more clueless than your American neighbours about the situation in Northern Ireland, but just as eager to add your two cents. A couple of observations about this article and your comments however:

1. It refers to the Sinn Fein political party as terrorists, and Michael Stone as a "soldier".
2. It uses republican to imply a terrorist, and loyalist as someone who is "loyal to the uk".
3. It is Sinn Fein's path for peace that has made them the subject of loyalist and dis-affected republican targetting.
4. The IRA are not fund raising in America to bomb and murder and torture UK citizens. They have in fact disbanded and ceased all activities (save maybe a few rogue dissidents operating under a different name). Meanwhile Loyalist terrorists, such as Michael Stone, are still armed and active.
5. You ignore the murder and torture and degradation of Catholic Irish people in their own land that has been inflicted for generations by loyalist paramilitaries BEFORE the provisional IRA were even around. P-IRA were in fact a reaction to this, not a cause of it. Nationalist Irish people could not rely on their own security forces to protect them, as they, the Loyalist terrorist organisations, and the British army were all on the same side and often colluded in terrorist attrocities across Ireland, north and south. This is fact, not conspiracy theory. When they broke the civil rights movement, the IRA got powerful. It was initially a defensive organisation that later moved into the offensive.
6. Northern Ireland has long been ran by protestant militant clergymen who aimed to cleanse it of Irish and catholic influence. Meanwhile the British media machine has portrayed it as the victim of an Irish religious fanaticism to erradicate it of protestants. This is utterly, UTTERLY, nonsense.

Sinn Fein are VERY influential among republicans, and are of unmeasurable importance in creation and maintaining a peaceful and inclusive northern Ireland. Any attack on their leadership at this time is simply an attempt to break this peace. It is in loyalist interests to do this because they can't accept the idea of an inclusive northern Ireland where both sides of the community are represented. So who are the terrorists?

what a load of bollocks...their murderers, the lot of them.

So is Michael Stone.....and they DO funraise in the US......where exactly do you think I am?....do think me a Canadian?...nope.

Gerry Adams can die for all I care
 

sabadee

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Really?

Sinn Fein fundraise, not the IRA. All soldiers are murderers by definition. I'll tell you this though, come into my back garden and try to pin me and my family to the ground with a foreign flag and I'll very quickly turn murderer too.

Anyway, my point was to point out the one-sided language of this article.

Where ARE you from anyway?
 

Daz_Hockey

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Sinn Fein fundraise, not the IRA. All soldiers are murderers by definition. I'll tell you this though, come into my back garden and try to pin me and my family to the ground with a foreign flag and I'll very quickly turn murderer too.

Anyway, my point was to point out the one-sided language of this article.

Where ARE you from anyway?


Certainly not in Canada or the US...it is true to say that all soldiers by very definition are murderers, but the speration of the IRA and Sinn Fein IS questionable...to everyone.....what do you think sinn fein does with the money it raises? "us alone"...lol

but I will say this.......the one-sided language is often used the other way in the US too you know...if you wish the country (this being ireland) to be united would probably take a hell of a lot of "ethnic cleansing" as you know they'll never give up their right to be British and they'll also never move right?.

Lets get something strait however...I think ALL parties in this conflict are murderous, all deserved to be hanged for treason for the murderous campaigns they stage, Adams, Paisley, McGuiness, Stone, murderers one and all.
 

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Re: Daz_Hockey

No ethnic cleansing was necessary. The concept of a "united Ireland" was originally about uniteing protestants and catholics under one flag, in a self-governed republic. Hence the green, white and orange (the white symbolising peace). As for the orangemen in northern Ireland, I'm not sure you appreciate how deeply the religious segragationism and protestant domineering philosophy was ingrained in them, and still is for many. Men like Paisley would much rather have a seperate state of "ulster" that is purely protestant with it's own government. I put quotes around "ulster" because northern Ireland is only 2/3 of the province, despite them continuously using that name to describe it.

It is not about moving anyone out, it was about removing British rule, which anyone with a pair of eyes in their head could see has been proven time-and-time again to be ineffective, not just over the past 40 years but throughout the history of Ireland. You think Ireland just wanted to break away for the sake of it, after 800 years? Britain excluded the industry rich 6 counties from the free-state they granted in 1922, but continued their discriminatory practices up there which have fuelled a continuous civil war ever. It is because of real efforts the Brits are making to restore equality that peace looks possible today. All kinds of excuses were made in the past not to let go, such as a "catholic backlash against protestants" if they leave, yet this never happened in the free state, ever, and many of our most noted irish patriots are protestants.

I'm not taking a stab at English people either, who have a lot in common with the Irish. But ignorance is no excuse for complaisance. That's the attitude that makes people want to FORCE you to listen.

As for the inextricable link between Sinn Fein and the PIRA, well I can't honestly deny that, nor would I want to. But the sad reality is - that's northern Ireland! All politics were militarized, and cultures and religions politicized. It's a sad side-effect of the history there, and the unionist political parties are 100% as guilty as the Shinners. We have to accept this and learn how to deal with it. I genuinely believe that's what Sinn Fein are trying to do - to leave behind the past and move forward for peace, just as countless other states in our world have rose above long civil wars and done the same. Too bad I can't say the same about the DUP.

I wouldn't go hanging people for "treason" just yet though - or a few irish people might get upset!! Treason to who?!
 

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Re: Daz_Hockey (part 2)

One other thing Daz, Sinn Fein is Irish for "We ourselves", not "Us alone". There is a difference. Do you say "God save the queen", or "God save the queen alone"??

The concept of "We ourselves" is that we rule our own country, not that we exclude ourselves "alone". And if you'd ever actually looked at Sinn Feins manifesto I think you'd find that they are absolutely not about "Us alone". Just look at their immigration policies for example.

BTW - I got the "god save the queen alone" analogy from an english writer, I liked it so used it here. I suppose another way of interpreting the meaning of Sinn Fein would be "We the people", which is appropriate to their socialist agenda.
 
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Daz_Hockey

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One other thing Daz, Sinn Fein is Irish for "We ourselves", not "Us alone". There is a difference. Do you say "God save the queen", or "God save the queen alone"??

The concept of "We ourselves" is that we rule our own country, not that we exclude ourselves "alone". And if you'd ever actually looked at Sinn Feins manifesto I think you'd find that they are absolutely not about "Us alone". Just look at their immigration policies for example.

BTW - I got the "god save the queen alone" analogy from an english writer, I liked it so used it here. I suppose another way of interpreting the meaning of Sinn Fein would be "We the people", which is appropriate to their socialist agenda.

The over-exzorbanant use of the letter Z made your arguement null and void though.

Blame Collins and Co as much as anyone...and they did, oh how they did...I think there's ignorance on the part of the Irish catholics (or rather the republic itself) as well, always playing the lame dog...come off it......tell that to the rest of the celtic nations who didnt have a sea to protect them from the germanic invaders.

Ireland had plans on the British mainland long before the English did...you should know this to be true, the Scotti tribe will testify to that.

I am actually a Hauguenout
 

sabadee

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Yeah whatever

If all you can do is resort to pointing out spelling errors then I think yours is the null and void post, but read back through your own posts and I think you'll find a few in "their". For the record though, I've been using AmericaniZed spelling. Also, we are talking about Gerry Adams not Germanic invaders for a thousand years ago, which bear no relevance whatsoever. Since you mention it though, they had a bit of a pond to cross to get to England as well or so I believe.

Michael Collins was a hero who led a successful rebellion against foreign oppressive scum. Playing the lame dog are we? I think we could do a lot more in that respect, but you wouldn't know or believe it anyway.

I'm out of this pointless argument.
 
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If all you can do is resort to pointing out spelling errors then I think yours is the null and void post, but read back through your own posts and I think you'll find a few in "their". For the record though, I've been using AmericaniZed spelling. Also, we are talking about Gerry Adams not Germanic invaders for a thousand years ago, which bear no relevance whatsoever. Since you mention it though, they had a bit of a pond to cross to get to England as well or so I believe.

Michael Collins was a hero who led a successful rebellion against foreign oppressive scum. Playing the lame dog are we? I think we could do a lot more in that respect, but you wouldn't know or believe it anyway.

I'm out of this pointless argument.

No pond to get over for the welsh...Michael Collins threw it away when he had the chance for full independence...surely you know this?..."foreign oppressive scum" lol...you could mention that to whoever you live with in the US and spare a thought for the native Americans lol the dichotamy of the Irish-American lol

Blame the english, blame the english for all our woes, our potatoes aren't growing, let's blame the english, my father's drunk...lets blame the english, oh we've turned our lights on so genocidal mniacs can murder english people....how nice of them.
 

sabadee

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I can't resist!

I never said I was Irish American, and while you're on about exterminating native-Americans, where did those pilgrims come from again???

As for your famine references, it's not the fungus that attacked the potato the English are blamed on, it's the conditions they created to leave an entire native population dependent on a sole crop, the confiscation of their lands to protestant absentee english landlords, and their generally appalling management of the circumstances in a country THEY were supposed to govern. Ever heard of the penal laws? Why do you think a farming people were forced to starve for the want of a potato? Yet another think you wouldn't know about. The English ruling classes looked on with glee while the Irish died as a result of their man-made famine.

Here's a nice quote for you from the London times during the famine era:

"They are going. They are going with a vengeance. Soon a Celt will be as rare in Ireland as a Red Indian on the streets of Manhattan...Law has ridden through, it has been taught with bayonets, and interpreted with ruin. Townships levelled to the ground, straggling columns of exiles, workhouses multiplied, and still crowded, express the determination of the Legislature to rescue Ireland from its slovenly old barbarism, and to plant there the institutions of this more civilized land."

And you talk about genocidal maniacs??