Canadian program presents alternative to Taliban
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Hmmmm.. a worthy idea....except,I didn't realize there were "local" governments in Aghnaistan. Of it's 34 provinces, I wonder how many have anything other than "war-lord" governments?
Certainly, if local people are to control their destiny,then they must be allowed to have a say in it...I don't think they do,at this point.
Certainly, if local people are to control their destiny,then they must be allowed to have a say in it...I don't think they do,at this point.
Re: RE: Canadian program presents alternative to Taliban
:lol: :lol: :lol:
My, we are looking for a fight this morning, aren't we?
Although you are completely correct.
fuzzylogix said:
:lol: :lol: :lol: My, we are looking for a fight this morning, aren't we?
Although you are completely correct.
Re: RE: Canadian program presents alternative to Taliban
Don't sell yourself so short, you bring something more to the Table and you know what it is..fuzzylogix said:
It's a great idea, however an idea that has been in effect since 2005. The Provincial Reconstruction Teams (PRTs) work closely with the elders to create a strong presence in the Provinces. While the idea is based on things the U.S. has tried in Iraq, the truth is that Afghanistan is nothing like Iraq, therefore the plan has better potential to succeed.
Such a pity the Afghanis think WE bombed their village and killed their civilians. Couldn't they tell it was the Americans???
Damn- I hope they still like our reconstruction plan!
Damn- I hope they still like our reconstruction plan!
Re: RE: Canadian program presents alternative to Taliban
Afghanis are pretty intelligent you know. And they know nationalities very well.
They also have a historical memory and would be able to compare this effort with that of the Soviets which undermined the local authorities and tried to replace them with central committees.
I am sure you are on the front lines of critiqing CIDA in other places they are working. In Africa CIDA and Canada is a joke. The little boys in khaki go out in the morning to dig a well and return early afternoon for their beer time. It's a waste of money and effort and the locals know it.
fuzzylogix said:
Afghanis are pretty intelligent you know. And they know nationalities very well.
They also have a historical memory and would be able to compare this effort with that of the Soviets which undermined the local authorities and tried to replace them with central committees.
I am sure you are on the front lines of critiqing CIDA in other places they are working. In Africa CIDA and Canada is a joke. The little boys in khaki go out in the morning to dig a well and return early afternoon for their beer time. It's a waste of money and effort and the locals know it.
occupant remains occupant.
There are people who hate aliens, whether they are reconstructing or freeing or occupying their territory.
There are people who hate aliens, whether they are reconstructing or freeing or occupying their territory.
BitWhys said:
Collateral damage is very high in these campaigns. Reagan once said that a million more Guatemalans would have to die in the war against communism. That’s because the Guatemalan government would take out all the men in a village if they suspected sympathizers. And the guerrillas would do the same if they suspected informants. This is a very old strategy and all sides employ it.
The Khmer Rouge were experts at it and so were the Soviets in Afghanistan. It’s an immoral practice and should be a war crime. It probably is if an army is on the losing side.
Last week O'Conner stood in parliament and insisted "the rationale has not changed since the previous government committed the Canadian Forces to this mission four years ago" and that "Nothing will change."
now a painfully limited number of Canadians are left to discuss the merits of collateral damage.
so be it :|
now a painfully limited number of Canadians are left to discuss the merits of collateral damage.
so be it :|
Unfortunately Afghanistan is a human tragedy of epic proportions. The Soviets totally destroyed Afghanistan and killed millions and left millions more homeless. They also dropped and mines on the entire country that haven’t been cleaned up. Prior to the invasion you had millions of Afghans facing death from starvation and disease. And the Taliban, bin Laden or Saudis were not interested in helping them.
So what are countries like Canada to do? Is doing nothing preferable to at least trying even though there are these senseless tragedies like the bombing of the village.
What Canada could do is officially protest to Washington each time it happens. To be taken seriously though Canada would have to have a much larger international profile and to do that is has to participate and offer solutions and not just complain and threaten to withdraw and do nothing. It’s not an easy situation.
So what are countries like Canada to do? Is doing nothing preferable to at least trying even though there are these senseless tragedies like the bombing of the village.
What Canada could do is officially protest to Washington each time it happens. To be taken seriously though Canada would have to have a much larger international profile and to do that is has to participate and offer solutions and not just complain and threaten to withdraw and do nothing. It’s not an easy situation.