White House 5th Target

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Moussaoui: White House was my 9/11 target
He admits lying to protect attacks, possibly bolstering death penalty case

ALEXANDRIA, Va. - Al-Qaida conspirator Zacarias Moussaoui testified Monday that he and would-be shoe bomber Richard Reid were supposed to hijack a fifth airplane on Sept. 11, 2001, and fly it into the White House.

Moussaoui’s testimony on his own behalf stunned the courtroom. His account was in stark contrast to his previous statements in which he said the White House attack was to come later if the United States refused to release an Egyptian sheik imprisoned on separate terrorist convictions.

On Dec. 22, 2001, Reid was subdued by passengers when he attempted to detonate a bomb in his shoe aboard American Airlines Flight 63 from Paris to Miami. The plane was diverted to Boston, where it landed safely.

Moussaoui told the court he knew the World Trade Center attack was coming and he lied to investigators when arrested in August 2001 because he wanted it to happen.

“You lied because you wanted to conceal that you were a member of al-Qaida?” prosecutor Rob Spencer asked.

“That’s correct,” Moussaoui said.

Spencer: “You lied so the plan could go forward?”

Moussaoui: “That’s correct.”

Testimony may be key to U.S. case
The exchange could be key to the government’s case that the attacks might have been averted if Moussaoui had been more cooperative following his arrest.

Moussaoui told the court he knew the attacks were to take place sometime after August 2001 and bought a radio so he could hear them unfold.

Specifically, he said he knew the World Trade Center was going to be attacked, but he asserted he was not involved in that part of the plot and didn’t know the details.

Nineteen men pulled off the Sept. 11 attacks on New York and Washington in the worst act of terrorism ever on U.S. soil.

Admits he ‘had knowledge’
“I had knowledge that the Twin Towers would be hit,” Moussaoui said. “I didn’t know the details of this.”

Sally Regenhard, whose firefighter son Christian died at the World Trade Center, said “at least there would have been a chance” to head off the attacks if Moussaoui had told investigators in August 2001 what she heard him admit in court Monday.

“I was convinced that this man was only a heartbeat away from taking the controls of a plane,” she said.

Asked by his lawyer why he signed his guilty plea in April as “the 20th hijacker,” Moussaoui replied: “Because everybody used to refer to me as the 20th hijacker, and it was a bit of fun.”

Lawyers: Moussaoui not competent
Before Moussaoui took the stand, his lawyers made a last attempt to stop him from testifying. Defense attorney Gerald Zerkin argued that his client would not be a competent witness because he has contempt for the court, only recognizes Islamic law and therefore “the affirmation he undertakes would be meaningless.”

Moussaoui denied he was to have been a fifth hijacker on United Airlines Flight 93, which four al-Qaida hijackers flew into a Pennsylvania field on Sept. 11 — the so-called missing 20th hijacker. But he quickly added that he was part of the 9/11 operation, ordered to pilot a fifth jetliner into the White House. He said Reid was the only person he knew for sure would have been on that mission, but others were discussed.

Reid pleaded guilty in October 2002 to trying to blow up Flight 63 and was sentenced to life in prison.

‘Under review’
Moussaoui testified that at one point he was excluded from pre-hijacking operations because he had gotten in trouble with his al-Qaida superiors on a 2000 trip to Malaysia. He said it was only after he was called back to Afghanistan and talked with Osama bin Laden that he was approved again for the operation.

“My position was, like you say, under review.”

The 19 terrorists on Sept. 11 hijacked and crashed four airliners, killing nearly 3,000 people in the World Trade Center, the Pentagon and on the planes. The intended target of the plane that crashed into a Pennsylvania field remains unknown.

Moussaoui testified for nearly three hours, ending his time on the stand by declaring his gratitude that he was an al-Qaida member. When Spencer asked him if he was also grateful to have been the fifth pilot, the defendant merely said: “I’m grateful.”

Moussaoui’s lawyer asked him whether he thought anything in his testimony or court proceedings would affect his fate. He replied: “I believe in destiny. God gives life and death. I just have to speak the truth, and God will take care of the rest.”

CIA-FBI communication lapse
Before Moussaoui took the stand, the court heard testimony that two months before the attacks a CIA deputy chief waited in vain for permission to tell the FBI about a “very high-interest” al-Qaida operative who became one of the hijackers.

The official, a senior figure in the CIA’s bin Laden unit, said he sought authorization on July 13, 2001, to send information to the FBI but got no response for 10 days, then asked again.

As it turned out, the information on Khalid al-Mihdhar did not reach the FBI until late August. At the time, CIA officers needed permission from a special unit before passing certain intelligence on to the FBI.

The official was identified only as John. His written testimony was read into the record.

“John’s” testimony was part of the defense’s case that federal authorities missed multiple opportunities to catch hijackers and perhaps thwart the 9/11 plot.

His testimony included an e-mail sent by FBI supervisor Michael Maltbie discussing Moussaoui but playing down his terrorist connections. Maltbie’s e-mail said “there’s no indication that (Moussaoui) had plans for any nefarious activity.”

He sent that e-mail to the CIA even after receiving a lengthy memo from the FBI agent who arrested Moussaoui and suspected him of being a terrorist with plans to hijack aircraft.

Prosecutors argue that Moussaoui, a French citizen, thwarted a prime opportunity to track down the 9/11 hijackers and possibly unravel the plot when he was arrested and lied.

Had Moussaoui confessed, the FBI could have pursued leads that would have led them to most of the hijackers, government witnesses have testified.

To win the death penalty, prosecutors must first prove that Moussaoui’s actions — specifically, his lies — were directly responsible for at least one death on Sept. 11.

If they fail, Moussaoui would get life in prison.
Charlie Sheen seems to think that Bush demolished the Twin Towers with controlled demolition explosives. The planes flying into the buildings was fake photography I guess. Anyone know why someone would demolish a building starting about 200 floors up?
What are conspiracy theorists gonna cook up about Zacarias Moussaoui's confession? I guess he is an undercover CIA agent and is covering up for GW!
Johnny Utah
Quote: Originally Posted by zoofer

Charlie Sheen seems to think that Bush demolished the Twin Towers with controlled demolition explosives. The planes flying into the buildings was fake photography I guess. Anyone know why someone would demolish a building starting about 200 floors up?
What are conspiracy theorists gonna cook up about Zacarias Moussaoui's confession? I guess he is an undercover CIA agent and is covering up for GW!

Charlie Sheen now joins the ranks of Moonbats like Alex Jones the brains behind Infowars.com

As for Zacarias Moussaoui's confession, I don't buy the shoe bomber was part of the 5th team, have you seen that guy who looks to stupid to operate a remote control.

Zacarias Moussaoui must know alot more then he is letting on, perhaps a few months at Gimto would change his mind, oh wait he has rights.
no, just a moron who choses to die as a martyr instead of lanquishing in jail as a 'never was'. He was either lying before or lying now. Either way you can't believe a liar, and what he is saying now does not jibe with reality of the other actors in this tragedy.

One problem with today's confession is the use of leading questions without objection. It was staged and not proper jurisprudence.

And Zoofer, if you the homework and look at the physics, and the buildings that fell, and those involved with those buildings, as well as the lack of protections provided (interceptors?) some doubts would begin to surface.

A lot of conspiracy theorists come much closer to the truth then the weak versions put out by government.
Conspiracy theorists are like a bunch of old women
gossiping about some neighbor.

Did you see what she did ?

No. What did she do?

She hugged that man.

And that's the truth as they saw it.

Or how about this conversation:

Did you see how the tower went straight down ?


Pretty curious eh ?


And that's the truth hanging in the air for these people.

Ain't no vetting, but a series of questions, gossipy
observations strung together until everyone nods their
head in agreement.

The internet has become a place to really
challenge the mainstream journalism and make it
better, but it is also a place of innuendo, insinuations,
unchecked observations, untested assumptions,
by people who hold logic as their God, and yet are
pisspoor at using logic in its most strenuous challenging
name calling and mockery does not make debate. It just indicates a weak position. If you look closer at many so called 'conspiracy theories' they are actually composed of a number of serious questions that deserve answers. But instead of providing answers, those in power have their army of unquestioning followers determined to distract people from questioning.

"To follow by faith alone is to follow blindly."
Benjamin Franklin
LOL !!

What was the name calling ???
Was it conspiracy theorists ??

Questions deserve answers, PoisonPete2, but often
you'll notice those questions really aren't questions
but insinuations and innuendos that pose as weighty

That should not be.

They're just questions.

Think those questions point to some truth yet ?

We don't know yet, do we ?

And a lot of those questions already got answers, answers you don't like.

But I'll wait for more vetting. I ain't jumping on
any bandwagon just because a lot of questions were
strung together like it was a glimpse of some nefarious
truth. Hasn't gone through the fire of trial and testing
and counter challenging and so on.

And PoisonPete2, if you don't recognize that you
follow the beat of a drum just like the rightwingers do,
then all your preaching is hollow.

These guys didn't fly planes into the WTC and the Pentagon?

The tens of thousands of witnesses aree suffering from mass delusion?

Even if you accept the premise (which I most certainly DO NOT) that it is possible that some evil war-mongering looney group among the American elite planned this intricate conspiracy and carried it out with no one talking out of turn...........it still makes no sense. There simply is no logical reason to blow the buildings and bring them down. Just the death caused by the planes flying into them would have taken America to war. Blowing the building could have caused 10 times the deaths that happened, for no purpose. The US economy would have been damaged, for no purpose.

It is simply nonsensical.

First you need to show motive. Then opportunity.

Neither existed.

(It's called "linear thought" in case you're wondering)
it never happened
the twin towers never existed
so they couldnt have fallen
they were imaginary entities
the planes flying into them were actually flying into a structural weakpoint in the space-time continuum
the people on board have been teleported into the future approximately 50 years --- into a post apoclyptic world where jesus is expected to materilize circa 2070

what---isnt this obvious....
Who in any sort of right mind would pay any attention to Charlie Sheen? Even the shoe bomber has slightly more intelligence[and that isn't much!]

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