Man sentenced in huge kiddie porn bust

Jersay

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EDMONTON (CP) - Carl Treleaven, a key member of an international child pornography ring, was to be sentenced Friday in a case that involves horrifying images of rape and abuse of children and infants.

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Treleaven, 49, was actually online when Edmonton police raided his home on Jan. 26.

As officers took him into custody they noted there were more than 90 people on the Internet waiting to download material from computer chat rooms he helped run.

In the queue were people from England, South America, Denmark, Australia, the United States, Canada and other countries, according to the agreed statement of facts in the case.

"I just look at pictures, I don't hurt anybody," Treleaven told police repeatedly that day as he confessed to possessing child pornography. He later pleaded guilty to distributing child porn.

On Wednesday his case was linked by U.S. Attorney General Alberto Gonzales to the arrest of dozens of suspects from four countries in an international sting operation.

Gonzales said the case is an example of how police around the world can work together to protect children from sexual abuse.

He called the images "the worst imaginable forms of child pornography."

The charges against the suspects include possession, receipt, distribution and manufacture of photos and live video of adults abusing seven victims - one who was less than 18 months old.

Nine of the accused are from Canada, 13 from the U.S., three from Australia and two from Britain.

Within minutes of Gonzales' announcement police watched as news of the arrests oozed down through to the murky world of Internet child porn chat rooms.

Edmonton police Det. Randy Wickins, who helped crack the case, said word of the bust even flickered on to the very chat room Treleaven was involved in.

"I'm sure many of these people have run and hidden," Wickins said Thursday. "They will come back out. They are not going away."

The arrests have been a big morale boost for police who work on child porn cases.

Wickins and some of his colleagues proudly displayed copies of major American newspapers that put the story on the front page.

"The reward is knowing some kids - I wish we could find them all - are no longer in an abusive situation."

The massive case began simply with an Edmonton woman overhearing a boy and a girl talking to each other. The woman then reported their conversation to police.

That led to the arrest of an Edmonton man in May 2005. The man, whose name has been banned from publication, was sentenced to 14 years in prison.

Four undercover Toronto police officers later infiltrated the chat room in November 2005, targeting Treleaven and eight others who were sharing child porn images, including acts of incest, bestiality and rape.

Court documents show that Treleaven, who has two previous convictions for indecent assault and gross indecency on girls during the 1970s, had more than 20 gigabytes of child porn on his computer.

He told police he has been involved with child porn since he was 16 years old and considers himself addicted to such material, comparing the situation to alcoholism.

Police say some people who used the chat room not only viewed child porn, they created it as well.

Other suspects arrested in Canada include men in Toronto, Kingston and Woodbridge in Ontario; Selkirk and Brandon in Manitoba; and Courtenay and Prince George in British Columbia.

The Toronto suspect was identified Thursday as Andre Mohammed, 20. Police told a news conference that Mohammed was arrested and charged on Feb. 9, and is scheduled to appear in court on Wednesday.

In Treleaven's case, the Crown and defence have filed a joint submission seeking a 3 1/2-year prison sentence.

"The public is going to see that when we catch somebody like this they are not going to see a slap on the wrist," said Crown prosecutor Steve Bilodeau.

"It is important for perpetrators to know that they can hide in a chat room, but police will find them."

http://news.yahoo.com/s/cpress/20060317/ca_pr_on_na/child_porn_us_cda

Now that is sick, possesing kiddie porn, but worst images of a kid under 18 months old. These are real creeps.
 

Hank C

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Mogz said:
18 months? How is that erotic? I honestly don't get it.

man you wanna hear something crazy

a couple years ago i read in the paper that a man in alberta broke into a stable full of horses..... and had sex with them all night till he passed out...... they found him the next morning arrested him and took him away :lol:
 

Johnny Utah

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I doubt this guy will serve his full sentence. Sadly in Canada sickos like this never get the punishment to fit the crime, hopefully that will soon change with tougher sentences.

Edmonton Police did get the credit from the U.S. Attorney General for exposing this ring.
 

FiveParadox

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I would hope that the Crown seeks a serious sentence; Section 163.1(4)(a) of An Act respecting the criminal law (or the Criminal Code of Canada) seems to indicate that a person convicted of possession of child pornography can be imprisoned for up to five years, but no less than forty-five days. I would hope that the sentence is to be much further toward the former.

:!: Revision : Corrected a typo.
 

Sassylassie

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If there's justice he will be in the shower and bend over for the soap and a really large skin head will be his new best friend.
 

Johnny Utah

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WINMX was used to connect people around the World for this sick shit. I was a member as many others around the world were for downloading songs, and oneday WINMX just went off line.
 

Kreskin

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I'm normally anti-death penalty, but I would like to see a world resolution, perhaps a UN resolution, whereby signatories agree to put the makers of child-pornography to death. I would applaud loudly if Canada did so.
 

FiveParadox

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I must disagree, Kreskin.

I do not agree with the concept of Crown-sanctioned punishment by way of torture, death, or any other cruel or unusual punishment. However, I would assert that the sentence guidelines in the Criminal Code of Canada should indeed be increased from their current maximums; at the moment, the Act states (under Section 163.1(3)(a)) that the maximum sentence for distributing child pornography is ten years, and (under Section 163.1(4)(a)) that the maximum sentence for possessing (or pursuant to Section 163.1(4.1)(a), accessing) child pornography can be sentenced to a term not exceeding five years.

In my opinion the sentence under Section 163.1(3)(a) should be increased to somewhere around eighteen years; however, as for Sections 163.1(4)(a) and (4.1)(a), those sentences could likely remain as they are since they are so rarely exercised and would have no impact on the presence of child pornography in Canada.
 

Kreskin

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Distributing and possessing are one thing. Holding the camera and forcing children to do this is another. I really wouldn't care how the producers would be put to death, the less humane the better.
 

FiveParadox

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I appear to have overlooked the publishing and production provisions in the Criminal Code of Canada; Section 163.1(2)(a) stipulates that persons convicted of publishing or making child pornography can be imprisoned for up to ten years (or, if the offence was punishable by summary conviction, between ninety days and eighteen months).
 

Kreskin

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Unfortunately the kids are imprisoned in a f'd up life for the next 75 years as a result of these vile scumbags.
 

FiveParadox

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Just don't shoot the messenger, heh. :?

I think that if we were to increase the sentences under (2)(a) and (3)(a) (and perhaps legislate that those charged with child pornography may not be punished by summary conviction), to something more reasonable under Canadian law (eighteen years might be a reasonable number {in reference to other offences under the Act}), then the system would be functioning more adequantely in terms of processing these offenders.

:!: Revision : Corrected a typo.
 

Jay

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"I think that if we were to increase the sentences under (2)(a) and (3)(a) (and perhaps legislate..."

It's bigger than numbers and amendments...
 

Kreskin

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Hey Five, sorry, didn't mean to attack you. Nothing bothers me more than adults abusing children. I can't justify an adult being allowed to roam our society after destroying a child's life for some sick gratification.
 

FiveParadox

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I know that; however, action has to be taken through our legislative framework. It would be fine and dandy to say that publishers of child pornography should die, but one cannot just go and shoot the person who commits the crime — it doesn't work that way.
 

Doryman

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FiveParadox said:
I know that; however, action has to be taken through our legislative framework. It would be fine and dandy to say that publishers of child pornography should die, but one cannot just go and shoot the person who commits the crime — it doesn't work that way.

Shame that it doesnt. They should change it so that any man who kills a convicted criminal takes the punishment of the deceased. I'm sure the relatives of those kids would gladly take 3 1/2 years to rid the world of this guy. I strongly advocate the death penalty for child rapists and pedophiles.