MI6 payouts over secret LSD tests.

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MI6 payouts over secret LSD tests


A "volunteers programme" started at Porton Down in 1916

Three UK ex-servicemen have been given compensation after they were given LSD without their consent in the 1950s.

The men volunteered to be "guinea pigs" at the government research base Porton Down after being told scientists wanted to find a cure for the common cold.

But they were given the hallucinogen in mind control tests, and some volunteers had terrifying hallucinations.

The Foreign Office said the secret intelligence body MI6 had made the settlements after legal advice.

The out-of-court settlements are thought to be under £10,000 for each of the men.

A spokesman for the Foreign Office, which oversees MI6, said: "The settlement offers were made to the government on behalf of the three claimants which, on legal advice, and in the particular circumstances of these cases, the government thinks it appropriate to accept."

The men had volunteered for experiments at the government's chemical warfare research base at Porton Down in Wiltshire in 1953 and 1954.

Following the settlement, Don Webb, who was a 19-year-old airman at the time, told BBC Radio 4's Today programme: "I think they grudgingly acknowledged that they did something wrong.

"They stick to the old maxim: never apologise, never explain. But I think in this case they have decided to pay some money. I think that is as near to an apology or an explanation I'll get."

Both he and fellow serviceman Logan Marr, a former shepherd from the Scottish highlands, suffered hallucinations after they were asked to drink a clear liquid.

The third man did not wish to be named.

The research was carried out after British and American governments thought the Soviet Union had developed a "truth drug" which could compel spies and servicemen to yield up important secrets.

MI6 scientists decided to test LSD, the closest thing they thought they had to a truth drug, on volunteers to see how they reacted.

'Volunteers programme'

Alan Care, a lawyer who represented the three men, said: "As far as we are aware, these are the first settlements by the secret intelligence services for a personal injury action."

He added that a request that documents relating to the case be put into the public domain had been refused.

Some volunteers at the base did not find out they had been given LSD until 50 years later. Thousands of servicemen and women have volunteered in the testing of defences against chemical and biological attacks at the Wiltshire military base.

Research began in 1916 using a "volunteers programme", and up to 20,000 people took part in various trials in the 50 years up to 1989.

Last October, the government was found guilty of breaching the human rights of former soldier Thomas Roche, who claimed he developed health problems as a result of mustard gas and nerve agent tests in 1962 and 1963.

news.bbc.co.uk
 

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RE: MI6 payouts over secr

Yes the same kind of testing happened in Canada. I did some indepentent tests of my own, the results were inconclusive except perhaps a bit of brain damage.
 

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From my knowledge of LSD, it's rather harmless if made properly and causes no brain damage. Some people are way to fragile and aren't grounded enough to be using hellucinogens that can allow for an abstract view of reality. Magic mushrooms and LSD can help achieve self introspection, and I often found myself reviewing my life from a out of mind critical standpoint that helped guide me through life and make positive choices. However, I would not recommend their use if you are emotionally fragile or suffer from depression, as they tend to enhance such emotions. Sometimes using such drugs can open a pandora's box in your head, as they can allow your subconscious to become conscious, sometimes it's madening if you aren't sound of mind, and there's no way of telling until you take the plunge. However, I personally used them to do exactly that, and now I can control my sub-conscious routines consciousely which has really enhanced my mental capabilities for abstract out of the box thinking. However, mushrooms and LSD are mild, even in large amounts comapared to Salvia divinorum which is legal to buy. In my mind, I actually travelled through time to my future self, which gave me a eary feeling as though the present had already happened. Most likely it was just my subconscious fabricating my future based off my current situation, but it fealt as real as the present. It was really weird too. I was wearing a Lab coat in what looked like some kind of lab that I've never seen before. I was sitting on the ground and sorrounded by a diverse crowd of scientists who were all focused on me, but I couldn't here what they were saying. By reading one womens lips I could make out that she was asking me the same question over and over again, " Did it work?" The really odd part is that I think I actually brought back knowledge with me but it's locked in my subconscious. As an inventor, I know longer have my Eureka moments, they feel more like deja vu.
Drugs can be fun and enlightening, or traumatic with consequeces. My advice is that if you're happy with your reality, stay clear, as it will likely be altered one way or another permanently.
 

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We used to eat a lot of acid.....but we don't anymore.