Chavez has lost his mind....

Reverend Blair

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RE: Chavez has lost his m

He wasn't in power when the USSR was together, Jay.

You should likely find some more balanced sources for South America too. The US press has long history of demonizing Chavez and other South American leaders who won't toe the US line.

The facts are that the US has been very threatening towards Chavez since Bush took power. He has every right to speak out against a country and a foreign leader that has done everything they can to attack him.

There is more than a little evidence that US-backed troops trained by CIA "advisors" have been getting ready to head into Venezuela and possibly Bolivia from Colombia.

The US would very likely fare in Venezuela even worse than they have in Iraq. Chavez enjoys a popularity rating over 70%, so the insurgency would most likely be huge.
 

Jay

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"He wasn't in power when the USSR was together, Jay. "

I know that.


The US isn't going to invade them....it is silly communist rhetoric.
 

Reverend Blair

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The US sponsored an attempted coup and tried to influence an election with massive amounts of cash. Do you blame Chavez for worrying about invasions and assassination attempts as a result?

Today Chavez turned some land titles over to indingenous peoples
 

PoisonPete2

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Reverend Blair said:
The US sponsored an attempted coup and tried to influence an election with massive amounts of cash. Do you blame Chavez for worrying about invasions and assassination attempts as a result?

Today Chavez turned some land titles over to indingenous peoples

good news about the land rights. This is a courageous leader, an endangered species for sure. We could use a leader in Canada with half the backbone Chavez has. I would spend money in Venezuala. I would not put a penny in the American economy if I could control my cash disbursement.

Chavez may see himself as the new Bolivar to South America. He may be the one to lead South America from U.S. dominion.
 

Reverend Blair

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RE: Chavez has lost his m

The really big problem is that by alienating him the way the US has done, there is a chance of pushing him towards extremism. Middle powers like Canada should be working with Chavez to ensure that Venezuela and oher South American countries that are following their lead remain democratic.

Instead we remain silent or work with the US to undermine a democratically elected leader that has a popularity rating over 70%.
 

GL Schmitt

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Pushing Chavez’s Venezuela into a “rogue nation” status that requires a regime change would certainly find favour amongst the oil interests supporting the Bushites.

The problem with such an eventuality is that China has been romancing Chavez for the very same resources that the Bushite supporters find so attractive.

Whether the Bushites believe they can win a war against China, can finesse China without hostilities, or just don’t give a damn, is anyone’s guess.

The problem is that in any future battle, the ammunition may not be bullets, but dollars.

While it would cost China a heavy financial loss to quickly flood the market with their American Treasury bills, the effect that would have on the financial stability of America would be catastrophic.

Over a longer time period, China needs only to stop purchasing American T-Bills to produce a deep US recession, or worse.
 

Reverend Blair

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RE: Chavez has lost his m

That's true, GL.

Something intersting about Chavez is the way he has protected himself and his country by involving others to a large extent. He pretty much single-handedly revived OPEC, he has courted other South American countries, and he has involved China.

Much of it helps to protect him from the actions of the United States.